Feds: Religious employers must cover the pill

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  • :lol:


    Eat the bacon, would yah?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Haven't read all through this lately but saw something on our news
    not too long ago...

    There are employees who must pay into this health insurance plan who
    feel this goes against their own beliefs also ... not just that of the employer

    we have had these individuals on the local news who would choose not to carry
    health insurance ... I would imagine if all feel this way the employer would not have to
    provide nor incur the costs of insurance or fines, if all choose to sign an insurance waiver.



    and my thought I wonder if any fines incurred are perhaps less costly than providing insurance
    to employees in the first place
  • I wish this delusional overblown nightmare would stop.
  • WaveRyder
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,414
    WaveRyder wrote:
    call me ignorant and confused. what do this link have to do with this discussion?
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  • WaveRyder
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    the first block
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,414
    WaveRyder wrote:
    the first block
    Ahh , I see. Sharing a link with such a broad generalization is adding to the discussion. Thanks for sharing.
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  • cincybearcat
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    _ wrote:

    I think a better analogy would be if Jewish employers forbid their employees from using their paychecks to buy pork.


    Well, while I'm on the same side of this discussion as you...your analogy is off.

    Currently, the employees can use their paychecks to pay for the pill. Their employers just don't want to have to pay directly for it through insurance. ;)
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    _ wrote:

    I think a better analogy would be if Jewish employers forbid their employees from using their paychecks to buy pork.


    Well, while I'm on the same side of this discussion as you...your analogy is off.

    Currently, the employees can use their paychecks to pay for the pill. Their employers just don't want to have to pay directly for it through insurance. ;)

    Hey, I said it was a better analogy, not a perfect one. ;)
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  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    Kittens reduce stress levels and therefore prevent mental and physical illness. By standing against the gov't forcing health insurance companies to provide free kittens to American citizens Republicans are standing in the way of peoples right to those things which keep them in good health. They are denying people their access to those things that provide them with good health. Republicans want people to die. People have a right to free kittens and republicans would use states' rights to ban and kill every kitten in the world. Thats a fact. Its all very scientific...and I'm outraged!
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Kittens reduce stress levels and therefore prevent mental and physical illness. By standing against the gov't forcing health insurance companies to provide free kittens to American citizens Republicans are standing in the way of peoples right to those things which keep them in good health. They are denying people their access to those things that provide them with good health. Republicans want people to die. People have a right to free kittens and republicans would use states' rights to ban and kill every kitten in the world. Thats a fact. Its all very scientific...and I'm outraged!

    :roll:

    The policy is in support of the recommendations of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force about the prevention methods that are most important and are supported by the greatest evidence. But go ahead and trivialize it since you have nothing of substance to say; you're just demonstrating your ignorance.
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    _ wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Kittens reduce stress levels and therefore prevent mental and physical illness. By standing against the gov't forcing health insurance companies to provide free kittens to American citizens Republicans are standing in the way of peoples right to those things which keep them in good health. They are denying people their access to those things that provide them with good health. Republicans want people to die. People have a right to free kittens and republicans would use states' rights to ban and kill every kitten in the world. Thats a fact. Its all very scientific...and I'm outraged!

    :roll:

    The policy is in support of the recommendations of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force about the prevention methods that are most important and are supported by the greatest evidence. But go ahead and trivialize it since you have nothing of substance to say; you're just demonstrating your ignorance.

    if they took the time to research the impact kittens have on their owners, they'd say the same thing. It's the same logic, just not as much background research has been done to support it.
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    WaveRyder wrote:
    _ wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Kittens reduce stress levels and therefore prevent mental and physical illness. By standing against the gov't forcing health insurance companies to provide free kittens to American citizens Republicans are standing in the way of peoples right to those things which keep them in good health. They are denying people their access to those things that provide them with good health. Republicans want people to die. People have a right to free kittens and republicans would use states' rights to ban and kill every kitten in the world. Thats a fact. Its all very scientific...and I'm outraged!

    :roll:

    The policy is in support of the recommendations of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force about the prevention methods that are most important and are supported by the greatest evidence. But go ahead and trivialize it since you have nothing of substance to say; you're just demonstrating your ignorance.

    if they took the time to research the impact kittens have on their owners, they'd say the same thing. It's the same logic, just not as much background research has been done to support it.

    I'm so glad you know more about medical care than the nation's leading physicians. :roll:
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Want I want to know from all you people who think random individuals should be able to dictate the health care of all the people who work for businesses they own or manage is:

    Does this supposed right of theirs apply to life-saving medical care? Do I have a right to deny you access to life-saving medical care based on my own personal beliefs??
  • http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/c ... cking-god/

    this was funny though

    hmmm... on side note i cant imagine why Colbert has stopped production (of his show)
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/colbert-using-contraception-means-you-are-c-k-blocking-god/

    this was funny though

    hmmm... on side note i cant imagine why Colbert has stopped production (of his show)

    :lol::lol:
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    _ wrote:
    Want I want to know from all you people who think random individuals should be able to dictate the health care of all the people who work for businesses they own or manage is:

    Does this supposed right of theirs apply to life-saving medical care? Do I have a right to deny you access to life-saving medical care based on my own personal beliefs??


    I think HIPAA covers that
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  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    and for those who say I'm in the minority on this, you're wrong.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... /?on.cnn=1

    Half of all Americans say they oppose the Obama administration's new policy concerning employer-provided health insurance plans and their coverage of contraceptive services for female employees including those at religiously affiliated institutions, according to a new national survey out today.
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  • Look at Jehovah's Witnesses.

    They can deny treatment? Yes? They can deny any part of their health coverage. Haven't we been telling them for years they need to accept treatments? So its allowable for them to deny any part of health care or whatever based on their religious beliefs.

    The same goes for contraceptives. You have to offer the pethora of services to everyone its up to an individual to use or not to use. You cannot take away the freedom choice away because one person says we have to or you are infringing.