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imalive wrote:dcfaithful wrote:
"my life is beyond your comprehension"
I'm not going to bash musicismylife. he/she seems like a good cat/chick.
I am glad I now know what to call these folks I've been seeing around....in their flannel shirts, their wayfarers and skinny jeans
this forum can be quite educational.
The Sugarhouse area is booming with hipsters, as you can well imagine.7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 20 -
dcfaithful wrote:musicismylife78 wrote:if your goal was to be popular and hip and trendy, than be a fan of Washed Out, or Oneohtrix point never, or Flying Lotus.
or Arcade Fire and The Black Keys. I say that only because those two bands have really blown up recently and seem to be a real hit with the whole "hipster" crowd.
true, but as i argued, those bands arent exactly new. their popularity may be new, but Arcade Fire have been around since 2004, David Bowie, and David Byrne used to hand out copies of their first album to friends and preach the power of the band, and were a band even before that, and the Black Keys are on what, album number 6 now? You are definitely correct in identifying them as being hipster bands, but i dont think liking them, hipsters liking them at least, is anything new. if anything the new aspect of it, is these 2 bands have gotten increasingly more accepted by mainstream society. its the mainstreaming of indie. these bands have been around awhile, the odd thing is the culture thats now rising up and meeting these bands in their element.0 -
musicismylife78 wrote:dcfaithful wrote:musicismylife78 wrote:if your goal was to be popular and hip and trendy, than be a fan of Washed Out, or Oneohtrix point never, or Flying Lotus.
or Arcade Fire and The Black Keys. I say that only because those two bands have really blown up recently and seem to be a real hit with the whole "hipster" crowd.
true, but as i argued, those bands arent exactly new. their popularity may be new, but Arcade Fire have been around since 2004, David Bowie, and David Byrne used to hand out copies of their first album to friends and preach the power of the band, and were a band even before that, and the Black Keys are on what, album number 6 now? You are definitely correct in identifying them as being hipster bands, but i dont think liking them, hipsters liking them at least, is anything new. if anything the new aspect of it, is these 2 bands have gotten increasingly more accepted by mainstream society. its the mainstreaming of indie. these bands have been around awhile, the odd thing is the culture thats now rising up and meeting these bands in their element.
I think you really hit the nail on the head with the whole "indie becoming mainstream." Indie, for the most part, is definitely not an underground thing anymore.7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 20 -
There are bands that are associated with the "hipster" movement that I have heard a lot about, listened to and honestly enjoyed, ppreciated and continue to like. Then there are some that I have given an honest chance and they are not my cup of tea. I would never go around toting a band name as a favorite of mine just because they are the flavor of the week, month, year when I truly have no heartfelt feelings for them. That is being dishonest to yourself.[/quote]
i hear you. i dont think anyone in the hipster movement likes all of the bands labeled as such. just look at Lana Del Rey and how people reacted when she was on SNL this past weekend! the flavor of the month/week issue is one i think is another misused slur on hipsters. The ridiculous amount of music that comes out each year and how we have access to every single album now, is the cause of that, not people trying to cash in on a trend. Take the Bible of indie, pitchfork. Just take one month. November of last year. They recommended people listen to Atlas Sound on the 7th, Asap rocky on the 10th, Oneohtrixpointnever on the 11th, Drake on the 14th, kate bush on the 21st, and sepalcure on the 22nd. thats 6 albums in one month. and its like that every month on their site and all the other hipster and non hipster music sites as well. The nature of music in 2012 is the enormous amount of music thats pumped out each year. Staggering amounts. And if you are a music fanatic like myself, i want to listen to it all, or try to. Because each band could be THAT BAND for me, the one that i love, that changes my life, that soundtracks my life. Can someone really absorb or genuinely like music or dislike it, if its pumped out and recommended at such a rapid clip? Could fans of pitchfork really absorb that Drake record in a week before moving onto Kate Bush?
i think its the nature of the beast. people no longer live with an album and get absorbed in it, you cant. if you do, you miss out on the 6 other albums released that month. its a neverending cycle. its sad because id rather get to know an album and listen to it for awhile. but i think people nowadays, listen to an album for a few weeks and then move onto something else, and the cycle begins anew.
all these album recommendations from pitchfork or any other site, the issue for me and i think alot of folks is, sure, maybe all the albums wont be great, but theres always a possibility their is a Nevermind, or Ten or Blonde on Blonde, or Rubber Soul, in the recommended albums. Thats why i listen to so much music. Searching for the new sound. The future. its crazy to think that bands we love were once small, tiny bands that could maybe attract 20 people at most at some seedy bar, but i think its exciting to think and wonder about the new bands, the albums released this week and think about if any of them are going to be the next big thing. And i think to get in on the ground floor is also pretty exciting. To be a fan of a band when they arent too popular and then be a fan of the band when they are the biggest thing in the world and can sell out stadiums, its an odd but exhilirating feeling0 -
musicismylife78 wrote:i think the generally accepted definition of a hipster, is a person in their 20's, who is into fashion, art and music. they shop at american apparel and urban outfitters. and they enjoy bands that are new and hip, but usually said bands havent made it into the cultural consciousness. Washed Out is a perfect example. Washed Out is on Sub Pop, they soundtrack Portlandia, but few if anyone outside the scene would be able to point out their music. Hipsters can be found in Portland, Brooklyn, Williamsburg, Austin Tx. They read sites like Pitchfork, Stereogum, Brooklyn Vegan. They are fans of Palaniuk, Dave Eggers. They love Wes Anderson and Spike Jonze.
and its a movement and musical scene, but its one of the few i can think of, that has no agenda or political idealogy attached. hipsters arent out to elect a new president, or to change the system. its almost apolitical. \
the most common insult or sterotype is that they like bands before the mass population knows who they are. And when that band becomes popular, they quit liking that band, because now its considered cool. Ive found this pretty inaccurate. As indie has become increasingly popular, the term means less and less. The figureheads of the scene, bands like The Shins, Modest Mouse, Death Cab, Bright Eyes, Interpol, The Decemberists, Spoon etc.. are all wildly popular. Parents and kids alike are fans of these bands. So the idea that hipsters are jumping ship is pretty inaccurate, all you have to do is attend a show and see this isnt the case.
On of the most interesting and bizaare aspects musically of the last decade was the mainstreaming of indie and hipster music. These bands were started as independent and non mainstream musical moments, and somewhere along the lines, the music spread to teens, to parents, to mainstream and pop music fans, to mainstream rock fans and on and on. Someone like Bon Iver, who now is friends with Kanye. Or Arcade Fire, there isnt an unlikelier band to win a Grammy. Or Death Cab being mentioned on what was at the time the most popular show on television. Or indie bands being used on shows like Greys Anatomy or Scrubs or House.
yup....this show is pretty hilarious and, apparently, spot on.
just started watching this weekend. hilarious.www.myspace.com0
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