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the lottery is awesome and should be the new standard

YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
edited February 2012 in The Porch
yea i said it

no f5
no f5
nof5

the lottery is awesome


sorry to the 3% of people who put in for tickets and missed out but i'm sure you will get into whatever show you were trying for.
i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
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  • mindimindi Posts: 1,862
    no
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  • Agreed. You should be able to go to 1 show if there are 10, 2 if there are 20, etc. If there are leftovers after the lottery then you have the regular type of sale. There are just way too many 10 Club members now to do it the other way and by that way I mean at lunch time during the week. Not everyone has the luxury to be near a computer at 2pm EST on a Wednesday.
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  • I would be ok with it if the notifications worked properly... still have not heard anything... pro or con...
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  • I don't know...I get it for Ed Solo but Ticketmaster for PJ Canada was so fast and easy, that would be my preference for the band tours. No F5, no site crash and people seemed happy with how it worked.
  • as i post in the other thread..
    easy,fast,fair..
    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=182427
    the ones dont like it care and talk only personally,with no arguments why loottery isnt good
    probably,they had speed internet,or applications at their helped or alot of free time..
    but if we put out ourself and judge the new system with the old,is so obvious which is better
    and the one show limit is for ev solo tour..no pj tour..Tim confirm it..
    noone need to worry...same as seniority..when it comes to pj shows is still on..not for ev show...
    this is pj fan club...not ev fan club ..ev solo tix is a bonus,like tres or brad would be..
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  • I would be ok with it if the notifications worked properly... still have not heard anything... pro or con...
    thats wrong..did u mail them buddy?happened to others too?
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  • mindimindi Posts: 1,862
    Yeah I'm wondering how they would do seniority with the lottery. With as long as the lottery took this time, can you imagine them trying to do seniority and with more tickets too :shock:
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  • I would be ok with it if the notifications worked properly... still have not heard anything... pro or con...
    thats wrong..did u mail them buddy?happened to others too?
    It says to wait until 9 AM PST... I will then...
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  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    edited February 2012
    I am down for the lottery proccess for the pearl jam concerts...As long as it isn't one pair of fan club tickets per memember....I don't think they will do this for regular pearl jam concerts....But, I could see it being a lottery....It makes it fairn for everyone...You don't have to be at the computer at a certain time and spend hours online trying to get tickets..

    Plus still use seniority to determine your location/seats.

    Jeremy
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  • I would be ok with it if the notifications worked properly... still have not heard anything... pro or con...
    thats wrong..did u mail them buddy?happened to others too?
    It says to wait until 9 AM PST... I will then...
    lets hope for the best :)
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,118
    I would be ok with it if the notifications worked properly... still have not heard anything... pro or con...
    thats wrong..did u mail them buddy?happened to others too?
    It says to wait until 9 AM PST... I will then...
    Tim sending out the backstage passes email today to the lucky ones 8-)

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  • Spoony CSpoony C Posts: 278
    mindi wrote:
    Yeah I'm wondering how they would do seniority with the lottery. With as long as the lottery took this time, can you imagine them trying to do seniority and with more tickets too :shock:
    The way I understand it, seniority wouldn't enter into it at the lottery phase, the same way it didn't enter into it at the purchase phase before. Casting aside the EV solo process (where seat assignment is random), a lottery PJ show would work like this:

    Say there's 1,000 pairs of Ten Club tickets to be sold. The lottery selects which 1,000 members who requested tickets for a show get pairs. It's after that--between notification that "yes, you have a pair of tickets" and the week of the concert itself--that Ten Club sorts through the buyers of those thousand pairs to arrange them by seniority.

    And this was the way it worked before, except that instead of a lottery to decide who the thousand "winners" were, it was a matter of who succeeded at busting through the internet traffic jam to score a pair. Seniority didn't enter into "do I have tickets or not?" before, and it wouldn't now. Seniority would only matter for sorting through the Ten Club ticket recipients to put them in their seats, after all the pre-sale/on-sale madness has calmed down and Ten Club has time to sort it out. That's why I haven't understood these panicked threads about seniority having no meaning now. My money's on it meaning the exact same amount in the future that it has in the past; the only difference is that a lottery replaces the F5 scrum.
  • jweyersjweyers Lincoln,NE Posts: 364
    Did alot of people get denied for Vegas? I put all my eggs in that basket and lost. Guess I'll take a shot at evil ticketmaster.....
  • mindi wrote:
    Yeah I'm wondering how they would do seniority with the lottery. With as long as the lottery took this time, can you imagine them trying to do seniority and with more tickets too :shock:
    the lottery was at 30th january..
    shows are on April..in 70 days from now...
    and if its pj tour,will be more time ahead..europe had 7 months ahead of the announcement..
    and the ones score the tix,then they will add seniority..lottery nothing to do with seniority
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    jweyers wrote:
    Did alot of people get denied for Vegas? I put all my eggs in that basket and lost. Guess I'll take a shot at evil ticketmaster.....
    I got a reject for Vegas which was my only entry, my buddy also got rejected. Meanwhile 10club is still holding my funds....

    got to assume with a 2500 seat theatre 10 club had 125 pairs, probably not the best odds this tour.
  • mindimindi Posts: 1,862
    mindi wrote:
    Yeah I'm wondering how they would do seniority with the lottery. With as long as the lottery took this time, can you imagine them trying to do seniority and with more tickets too :shock:
    the lottery was at 30th january..
    shows are on April..in 70 days from now...
    and if its pj tour,will be more time ahead..europe had 7 months ahead of the announcement..
    and the ones score the tix,then they will add seniority..lottery nothing to do with seniority
    Don't go making this all easy for me ;)
    Don't use your logic :mrgreen:

    Ok I admit, sometimes I'm scatterbrained and don't see the big picture. I'm just old and don't like change :lol:

    Love ya Dimi!
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  • I think the lottery is great for situations like it was just used for (Small venue/High demand). I remember a lottery was used for the Northwest School Benefit at the Paramount in Seattle back in 2005. Which was a small venue & high demand. I don't like the idea of the lottery being used for a full band tour in large arenas. I like to have the opportunity to see a couple or so shows in a row. That's what it's all about? Right?
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  • I think the lottery is great for situations like it was just used for (Small venue/High demand). I remember a lottery was used for the Northwest School Benefit at the Paramount in Seattle back in 2005. Which was a small venue & high demand. I don't like the idea of the lottery being used for a full band tour in large arenas. I like to have the opportunity to see a couple or so shows in a row. That's what it's all about? Right?
    lottery nothing to do with how many shows you go at pj tour
    10c manager post and clear this here at the forum....
    i add lottery for 2 shows at europe,prague,berlin 2..not a problem..score both..
    both 17000-18000 venues
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,882
    I am down for the lottery proccess for the pearl jam concerts...As long as it isn't one pair of fan club tickets per memember....I don't think they will do this for regular pearl jam concerts....But, I could see it being a lottery....It makes it fairn for everyone...You don't have to be at the computer at a certain time and spend hours online trying to get tickets..

    Plus still use seniority to determine your location/seats.

    Jeremy

    I agree with most of that except I think it should be one pair per tour. Especially with the decline in the amount of 10c tickets that seem to be allocated to shows over the last 10 years. Otherwise you're going to end up with people that didn't get tickets to any shows, and some people who got tickets to multiple shows.

    If they have the manpower. I would think limiting it to 1 show per tour would be sufficient. If they do have leftover tickets, they could so a 2nd sale, free for all kind of thing with the remaining tickets. This would increase the odds of people at least scoring tickets to one show.

    Seniority to determine location/seats still works I think.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,495
    I still prefer the old system. If demand is gonna exceed supply, I'd rather effort vs. chance be the x factor in ultimately determining who gets their pairs.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Plus still use seniority to determine your location/seats.

    Jeremy[/quote]

    I agree with most of that except I think it should be one pair per tour. Especially with the decline in the amount of 10c tickets that seem to be allocated to shows over the last 10 years. Otherwise you're going to end up with people that didn't get tickets to any shows, and some people who got tickets to multiple shows.

    If they have the manpower. I would think limiting it to 1 show per tour would be sufficient. If they do have leftover tickets, they could so a 2nd sale, free for all kind of thing with the remaining tickets. This would increase the odds of people at least scoring tickets to one show.

    Seniority to determine location/seats still works I think.[/quote]


    I agree with you...But, I don't think the 10c is going to do this...Since I don't think they would be able to sale all of the fan club tickets to each show...Unless it is a popular venue..example Boston....Fans want to get there vacation days lined out for shows...Plus, plane tickets and etc...I could be wrong...But, I would be down for like 3-5 pair of fan club tickets per a member..

    Jeremy
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    pjl44 wrote:
    I still prefer the old system. If demand is gonna exceed supply, I'd rather effort vs. chance be the x factor in ultimately determining who gets their pairs.



    I like the lottery myself...You have your own opinion....There is a lot of fans who work during the day or can't make it to a computer during the day....I am down for putting my name in and let them do a lotterry..Plus, this way everyone has an equal shot....Instead of going online hitting f5 a million times..


    Jeremy
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,495
    pjl44 wrote:
    I still prefer the old system. If demand is gonna exceed supply, I'd rather effort vs. chance be the x factor in ultimately determining who gets their pairs.



    I like the lottery myself...You have your own opinion....There is a lot of fans who work during the day or can't make it to a computer during the day....I am down for putting my name in and let them do a lotterry..Plus, this way everyone has an equal shot....Instead of going online hitting f5 a million times..


    Jeremy

    Judging by every online sale and the relative activity of these boards during the day, I'd say the vast majority of people have computer access then. Hell, I've used vacation days to ensure being available before. If it we were talking about a necessary resource, I agree fairness rules the day. For something like concert tickets, I'd rather see effort rewarded.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    pjl44 wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:
    I still prefer the old system. If demand is gonna exceed supply, I'd rather effort vs. chance be the x factor in ultimately determining who gets their pairs.



    I like the lottery myself...You have your own opinion....There is a lot of fans who work during the day or can't make it to a computer during the day....I am down for putting my name in and let them do a lotterry..Plus, this way everyone has an equal shot....Instead of going online hitting f5 a million times..


    Jeremy

    Judging by every online sale and the relative activity of these boards during the day, I'd say the vast majority of people have computer access then. Hell, I've used vacation days to ensure being available before. If it we were talking about a necessary resource, I agree fairness rules the day. For something like concert tickets, I'd rather see effort rewarded.


    So, we should have to take a vacation or call off work?...Just to try for pearl jam tickets...I work two shifts...Days and afternoons...While I am at work...I have no online computer access...

    Jeremy
  • i dont understand why people support a system that is torture to score tix..
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,495


    So, we should have to take a vacation or call off work?...Just to try for pearl jam tickets...I work two shifts...Days and afternoons...While I am at work...I have no online computer access...

    Jeremy

    You're on the computer now, no?
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    pjl44 wrote:


    So, we should have to take a vacation or call off work?...Just to try for pearl jam tickets...I work two shifts...Days and afternoons...While I am at work...I have no online computer access...

    Jeremy

    You're on the computer now, no?


    That is because I am on afternoons this week...I rotate every week....One week of afternoons and one week of days...

    Jeremy
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,495
    i dont understand why people support a system that is torture to score tix..

    Control. Crossing your fingers for a lottery is aggravating, hammering away on the Pearl Jam site is aggravating, and dealing with a big TM onsale is aggravating. I'd rather deal with whatever aggravation allows me an advantage based on determination. I can certainly understand why others would prefer a lottery, though.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,415
    yea i said it

    no f5
    no f5
    nof5

    the lottery is awesome


    sorry to the 3% of people who put in for tickets and missed out but i'm sure you will get into whatever show you were trying for.

    I think it's an improvement too!
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,495
    pjl44 wrote:


    So, we should have to take a vacation or call off work?...Just to try for pearl jam tickets...I work two shifts...Days and afternoons...While I am at work...I have no online computer access...

    Jeremy

    You're on the computer now, no?


    That is because I am on afternoons this week...I rotate every week....One week of afternoons and one week of days...

    Jeremy

    I guess my larger point is the silliness of the fake concern about "what is best for everyone." I prefer a system that gives me the best chance at scoring tickets, you prefer the system that gives you the best chance at scoring tickets. Totally cool, but let's all just admit that.
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