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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I know it's Godfather's #1 news source... :lol:

    Certainly not the majority of folks on here though.

    :lol:


    everybodys a comidien. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    :lol:


    One must adhere to the old saying, "Tune out and Tune in"


    The spin doctors are idiots. Make you sick and insane. They do and say stupid things. Most days I d rather use a dremel saw to my cranium and scrub my brain with a wire brush after listening to a day of news.


    :lol:
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Fox is bias, MSNBC is bias. They are basically the same, except on opposite ends of the political spectrum. These are known bias news networks.

    Then there's CNBC, which is bias. CNN, which is bias. PBS, which is bias. ABC, NBC, CBS, which is bias. The problem here is these are thought to be unbias networks. Truth be told, they are also a bit less bias in totality, but the issue is their bias in their delivery of actual news (or journalism).

    My point is at least with MSNBC and Fox, you know you are getting bias opinion-based news. With the others, you are getting tints of bias journalism. In other words, the CNN-types are giving you what seems like unbias journalism, but there is a hint of bias (underneath). Which is really worse? I'd say the CNN-types are probably worse, because they pretend like they aren't bias. That said, I probably watch more CNN than anything else.

    For me, I like having all the options. I enjoy watching MSNBC, Fox AND CNN. For business news, I like that CNBC is bias, and that Fox Business is also bias to the other end. It's a balancing act. But, at least I know it.

    The reason Fox does well is simple:

    There's no other networks with their right-leaning bias. Whereas, MSNBC is super-left leaning, CNN (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, etc.) all have left-leaning undertones in their journalism. People aren't stupid. They know this. That's why talk radio did so well for so long. There was no news/opinion sources that told the other side of the story consistently. Fox does now.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,378
    I try to avoid getting my news from video sources. But I can understand Fox being rated #1. People that watch it do it religiously. And as someone who randomly samples cable news when in hotels, Fox has better production values (although I always laugh at the constant "ALERT" flashing on the screen) and are better then the other networks.

    But, as Inlet stated, they are the only source that leans right.
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  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    For 2011:

    Top 10 Primetime TV Programs – Regularly Scheduled Rank Total Viewers (000)
    1 American Idol-Wednesday FOX 8.1 23,946
    2 American Idol-Thursday FOX 7.5 22,009
    3 NBC Sunday Night Football NBC 7.1 20,547
    4 Dancing with The Stars ABC 6.7 19,576
    5 Dancing w/ Stars Results ABC 5.8 16,856
    6 Sunday Night NFL Pre-Kick NBC 5.5 15,918
    7 NCIS CBS 5.2 15,174
    8 NFL Regular Season L ESPN 4.5 13,058
    9 The OT FOX 4.4 12,877
    10 NCIS: Los Angeles CBS 4.3 12,635

    History

    Most watched TV shows

    This table lists all the TV shows with the highest average Nielsen rating for each television season:[19][20][21][22]
    Season Program Network Rating
    1950–1951 Texaco Star Theater NBC 61.6
    1951–1952 Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts CBS 53.8
    1952–1953 I Love Lucy 67.3
    1953–1954 58.8
    1954–1955 49.3
    1955–1956 The $64,000 Question 47.5
    1956–1957 I Love Lucy 43.7
    1957–1958 Gunsmoke 43.1
    1958–1959 39.6
    1959–1960 40.3
    1960–1961 37.3
    1961–1962 Wagon Train NBC 32.1
    1962–1963 The Beverly Hillbillies CBS 36.0
    1963–1964 39.1
    1964–1965 Bonanza NBC 36.3
    1965–1966 31.8
    1966–1967 29.1
    1967–1968 The Andy Griffith Show CBS 27.6
    1968–1969 Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In NBC 31.8
    1969–1970 26.3
    1970–1971 Marcus Welby, M.D. ABC 29.6
    1971–1972 All in the Family CBS 34.0
    1972–1973 33.3
    1973–1974 31.2
    1974–1975 30.2
    1975–1976 30.1
    1976–1977 Happy Days ABC 31.5
    1977–1978 Laverne & Shirley 31.6
    1978–1979 30.5
    1979–1980 60 Minutes CBS 28.4
    1980–1981 Dallas 34.5
    1981–1982 28.4
    1982–1983 60 Minutes 25.5
    1983–1984 Dallas 25.7
    1984–1985 Dynasty ABC 25.0
    1985–1986 The Cosby Show NBC 33.7
    1986–1987 34.9
    1987–1988 27.8
    1988–1989 25.6
    1989–1990 The Cosby Show, Roseanne (tie)[21] NBC, ABC 23.1
    1990–1991 Cheers NBC 21.3
    1991–1992 60 Minutes CBS 21.9
    1992–1993
    1993–1994 20.9
    1994–1995 Seinfeld NBC 20.6
    1995–1996 ER 22.0
    1996–1997 21.2
    1997–1998 Seinfeld 21.7
    1998–1999 ER 17.8
    1999–2000 Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? — Tuesday ABC 18.6
    2000–2001 Survivor CBS 17.4
    2001–2002 Friends NBC 15.0
    2002–2003 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation CBS 16.3
    2003–2004 15.0
    2004–2005 16.5
    2005–2006 American Idol — Tuesday FOX 17.6
    2006–2007 American Idol — Wednesday 17.3
    2007–2008 American Idol — Tuesday 10.1
    2008–2009 American Idol — Wednesday 9.2
    2009–2010 American Idol — Tuesday 9.1
    2010–2011 American Idol — Wednesday 8.8
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    Jason P wrote:
    People that watch it do it religiously.

    More evidence that we need a secular society....... :lol:
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,086
    inlet13 wrote:
    Fox is bias, MSNBC is bias. They are basically the same, except on opposite ends of the political spectrum. These are known bias news networks.

    Then there's CNBC, which is bias. CNN, which is bias. PBS, which is bias. ABC, NBC, CBS, which is bias. The problem here is these are thought to be unbias networks. Truth be told, they are also a bit less bias in totality, but the issue is their bias in their delivery of actual news (or journalism).

    My point is at least with MSNBC and Fox, you know you are getting bias opinion-based news. With the others, you are getting tints of bias journalism. In other words, the CNN-types are giving you what seems like unbias journalism, but there is a hint of bias (underneath). Which is really worse? I'd say the CNN-types are probably worse, because they pretend like they aren't bias. That said, I probably watch more CNN than anything else.

    For me, I like having all the options. I enjoy watching MSNBC, Fox AND CNN. For business news, I like that CNBC is bias, and that Fox Business is also bias to the other end. It's a balancing act. But, at least I know it.

    The reason Fox does well is simple:

    There's no other networks with their right-leaning bias. Whereas, MSNBC is super-left leaning, CNN (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, etc.) all have left-leaning undertones in their journalism. People aren't stupid. They know this. That's why talk radio did so well for so long. There was no news/opinion sources that told the other side of the story consistently. Fox does now.

    Exactly, that's why I watch Fox News and the Daily Show/Colbert report. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,796
    someone made the comparison between fox and msnbc...

    at least msnbc does not have "news" anywhere in it's name. it markets itself as "the place for politics" and it makes no excuses for being on the left and does not misrepresent itself by calling itself "news"......you know what you are getting when you turn on that channel. plus it's flagship morning show "morning joe" features a republican former congressman... does fox have an actual liberal with their own show??
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,756
    Watching FOX "news" to find out what's really going on in the world is a bit like eating your way through bag of fortune cookies to figure out what's happening with your life-- mildly entertaining at times and occasionally a tad bit aligned with reality but in the long run all you get is empty calories.

    Don't get me wrong- I think pretty much the same about all TV news.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    brianlux wrote:
    Watching FOX "news" to find out what's really going on in the world is a bit like eating your way through bag of fortune cookies to figure out what's happening with your life-- mildly entertaining at times and occasionally a tad bit aligned with reality but in the long run all you get is empty calories.

    Don't get me wrong- I think pretty much the same about all TV news.


    you are a wise man my friend !

    Godfather.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,378
    It's interesting to see those Nielson rating stats. You can almost see when the following occurred:

    1960 - Three networks
    1987 - Cable network expansion
    2000 - Internet available to the masses
    2007 - High speed internet availability to the masses

    So if Fox is number one in cable news, what does that really mean. The highest rated show, American Idol, is pulling down 8.1 which is relatively low compared to just a decade ago.
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