Your #1 News Source

brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
edited February 2012 in A Moving Train
So Fox is number one, huh? Is this for real? Seriously, I'm not stirring to stir up shit here- I honestly can't believe this... though I suppose I should, huh? :?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/fox ... 14917.html

"Last fall, Fox News celebrated its 15th anniversary with a lavish party in New York. Fox News president Roger Ailes, who launched the channel in 1996, toasted 700 or so staffers that night, telling them, "Losing is highly overrated as a learning experience."

On Tuesday afternoon, when Nielsen releases its final ratings for the month of January, the "fair and balanced" network will mark an arguably more important milestone: 10 consecutive years at the top of the cable news rankings.

Yahoo News recently spoke will Bill Shine, Fox News Channel's EVP of programming, about the significance of the achievement, the state of cable news, and how the cable network has managed to sustain its pole position while defending Fox from its fervent critics, including Jon Stewart."
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The thing is... FOX may be a viable source for news. The problem is, many of its viewers perceive their commentary as journalism. They skip through the actual news portions and tune into the Hannity or O'Rielly Factor and think they are presenting news, not opinion. what the viewers are getting in opinions and editorials on news events, not the actual news.
    It would be the same thing if you read the local newpaper and only read the op-ed section and felt informed. or, if they only read the critics reports on movies and television and formed opinions based on that critic's opinions, not the movie itself.
    Not saying ALL FOX viewers are like this... but, I'm betting that a LOT of them are. If you hear what you WANT to hear... you'll tend to buy into it, rather than the stuff you don't want to hear about.
    and YES... this works for the other end of the spectrum, too. The ones who get their 'News' from Rachael Maddow.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I have to say that I catch O'Reilly when I can (sorry, Cosmo :mrgreen: ) - huge fan of Dennis Miller's weekly diatribes on there as well - and I respect the opinions of folks like Dobbs, Hume, Greenberg. There's an old-school integrity with them that I appreciate and don't see much of these days.

    However, I also like to get my news from as many sources as possible...can't limit oneself or put the blinders on.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited January 2012
    I know it's Godfather's #1 news source... :lol:

    Certainly not the majority of folks on here though.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    hedonist wrote:
    I have to say that I catch O'Reilly when I can (sorry, Cosmo :mrgreen: ) - huge fan of Dennis Miller's weekly diatribes on there as well - and I respect the opinions of folks like Dobbs, Hume, Greenberg. There's an old-school integrity with them that I appreciate and don't see much of these days.

    However, I also like to get my news from as many sources as possible...can't limit oneself or put the blinders on.
    ...
    That's it. You almost HAVE to get your information from serveal sources in order to filter out the personal bias of the editor, newsroom director, copy writers and talking heads.
    And I too, watch The O'Rielly Factor, Hannity (when I can stomach himm) and Rachael Maddow to get varying opinions... not news, opinions.
    Good news sources are PBS, NPR, BBC and Canadian Broadcasting.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Cosmo wrote:
    The thing is... FOX may be a viable source for news. The problem is, many of its viewers perceive their commentary as journalism. They skip through the actual news portions and tune into the Hannity or O'Rielly Factor and think they are presenting news, not opinion. what the viewers are getting in opinions and editorials on news events, not the actual news.
    It would be the same thing if you read the local newpaper and only read the op-ed section and felt informed. or, if they only read the critics reports on movies and television and formed opinions based on that critic's opinions, not the movie itself.

    I don't watch any American cable news. But I was at the gym yesterday in front of the tv with Fox News on and station identification advertising comes on showing that Fox is real journalism, and I start laughing. It was so bad I had to move away because people really believe this!
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    i wonder if the ratings aren't inflated a bit do to the fact that every chain/fastfood restaruant in america are always tuned into fox news?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The other thing about 'Top Rated' when it comes to television... is that such a great thing?
    I mean, isn't 'Dancing With The Stars', 'American Idol' and 'Celebrity Apprentice', Top Rated television shows? Are those shows any good? I don't know, because I don't watch them.
    And isn't Justin Bieber a 'Top Rated' singer? Is his music the best? Again, I have no idea what he sings, so I am not the one who can say for sure if he sucks or not. I'm am guessing that based upon my musical tastes, i would probably lean towards the 'He Sucks' side of the fence, rather than the multi-millions whom say otherwise.
    That's why 'Rated Number One' does not always mean it is the best thing out there, right?
    ...
    Or does it?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    Cosmo wrote:
    That's why 'Rated Number One' does not always mean it is the best thing out there, right?
    ...
    Or does it?
    Maybe it means the best worst thing.
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    The Onion
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    arq wrote:
    The Onion
    Thank you for mentioning my favorite news source! :lol:
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    I do think that FOX is #1 by default. The Left's got CNN, MSNBC, Hollywood & music (-Country). All the right has is FOX................& Country music.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    My #1 news source is Al Jazeera English.
  • Fox news has established itself as having an implicit right wing slant. They're the only station out of the...say 10 other stations doing this. People who want to hear something from the devil they know or want to hear the GOPs side of the story will go to Fox news. The other people will scatter themselves amongst the other 9 stations.

    You want Fox News to fall out of #1? Have more right wing news networks.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    Fox news has established itself as having an implicit right wing slant. They're the only station out of the...say 10 other stations doing this. People who want to hear something from the devil they know or want to hear the GOPs side of the story will go to Fox news. The other people will scatter themselves amongst the other 9 stations.

    You want Fox News to fall out of #1? Have more right wing news networks.
    :shock: Interesting, insightful perspective on the subject. Maybe we should leave well enough alone.
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  • Jeanwah wrote:
    I know it's Godfather's #1 news source... :lol:

    Certainly not the majority of folks on here though.

    :lol:
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Cosmo wrote:
    FOX may be a viable source for news. The problem is, many of its viewers perceive their commentary as journalism. They skip through the actual news portions and tune into the Hannity or O'Rielly Factor and think they are presenting news, not opinion. this works for the other end of the spectrum, too. The ones who get their 'News' from Rachael Maddow.

    that is about all that needs t be said. It is said that all TV journalism now looks to the fox model as what is successful and try to duplicate it, rather than simply letting the news be the news. Print, cable, and national...all of it spews out opinion as much as facts.

    The good thing is most young people aren't getting all their news from one source.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    I like to flip between Fox news and MSNBC.......... then I like to jab pencils in my ears and eyes.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I know it's Godfather's #1 news source... :lol:

    Certainly not the majority of folks on here though.
    o.k wise gal ! :lol: I never watch hanity and james or who ever they are, my only fix.....is the San Diego Fox local news and fox breaking news on the internet, I have seen the Fox stations on the other channels but it like CNN and a lot of others seem just a bit radical and one sided..not my cup of joe.
    but all that being said I have to admit I get a chuckle out of it when ever you guys make...funny comments about my choice of news stations when for the most part they all have the same info but just dilivered a little different :D and thats where the enterainment value comes in for me, it's not that I always agree with their ideas it's just a little more fun to read.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I like to flip between Fox news and MSNBC.......... then I like to jab pencils in my ears and eyes.


    we need to party ! :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I know it's Godfather's #1 news source... :lol:

    Certainly not the majority of folks on here though.

    :lol:


    everybodys a comidien. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • :lol:


    One must adhere to the old saying, "Tune out and Tune in"


    The spin doctors are idiots. Make you sick and insane. They do and say stupid things. Most days I d rather use a dremel saw to my cranium and scrub my brain with a wire brush after listening to a day of news.


    :lol:
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Fox is bias, MSNBC is bias. They are basically the same, except on opposite ends of the political spectrum. These are known bias news networks.

    Then there's CNBC, which is bias. CNN, which is bias. PBS, which is bias. ABC, NBC, CBS, which is bias. The problem here is these are thought to be unbias networks. Truth be told, they are also a bit less bias in totality, but the issue is their bias in their delivery of actual news (or journalism).

    My point is at least with MSNBC and Fox, you know you are getting bias opinion-based news. With the others, you are getting tints of bias journalism. In other words, the CNN-types are giving you what seems like unbias journalism, but there is a hint of bias (underneath). Which is really worse? I'd say the CNN-types are probably worse, because they pretend like they aren't bias. That said, I probably watch more CNN than anything else.

    For me, I like having all the options. I enjoy watching MSNBC, Fox AND CNN. For business news, I like that CNBC is bias, and that Fox Business is also bias to the other end. It's a balancing act. But, at least I know it.

    The reason Fox does well is simple:

    There's no other networks with their right-leaning bias. Whereas, MSNBC is super-left leaning, CNN (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, etc.) all have left-leaning undertones in their journalism. People aren't stupid. They know this. That's why talk radio did so well for so long. There was no news/opinion sources that told the other side of the story consistently. Fox does now.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    I try to avoid getting my news from video sources. But I can understand Fox being rated #1. People that watch it do it religiously. And as someone who randomly samples cable news when in hotels, Fox has better production values (although I always laugh at the constant "ALERT" flashing on the screen) and are better then the other networks.

    But, as Inlet stated, they are the only source that leans right.
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    For 2011:

    Top 10 Primetime TV Programs – Regularly Scheduled Rank Total Viewers (000)
    1 American Idol-Wednesday FOX 8.1 23,946
    2 American Idol-Thursday FOX 7.5 22,009
    3 NBC Sunday Night Football NBC 7.1 20,547
    4 Dancing with The Stars ABC 6.7 19,576
    5 Dancing w/ Stars Results ABC 5.8 16,856
    6 Sunday Night NFL Pre-Kick NBC 5.5 15,918
    7 NCIS CBS 5.2 15,174
    8 NFL Regular Season L ESPN 4.5 13,058
    9 The OT FOX 4.4 12,877
    10 NCIS: Los Angeles CBS 4.3 12,635

    History

    Most watched TV shows

    This table lists all the TV shows with the highest average Nielsen rating for each television season:[19][20][21][22]
    Season Program Network Rating
    1950–1951 Texaco Star Theater NBC 61.6
    1951–1952 Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts CBS 53.8
    1952–1953 I Love Lucy 67.3
    1953–1954 58.8
    1954–1955 49.3
    1955–1956 The $64,000 Question 47.5
    1956–1957 I Love Lucy 43.7
    1957–1958 Gunsmoke 43.1
    1958–1959 39.6
    1959–1960 40.3
    1960–1961 37.3
    1961–1962 Wagon Train NBC 32.1
    1962–1963 The Beverly Hillbillies CBS 36.0
    1963–1964 39.1
    1964–1965 Bonanza NBC 36.3
    1965–1966 31.8
    1966–1967 29.1
    1967–1968 The Andy Griffith Show CBS 27.6
    1968–1969 Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In NBC 31.8
    1969–1970 26.3
    1970–1971 Marcus Welby, M.D. ABC 29.6
    1971–1972 All in the Family CBS 34.0
    1972–1973 33.3
    1973–1974 31.2
    1974–1975 30.2
    1975–1976 30.1
    1976–1977 Happy Days ABC 31.5
    1977–1978 Laverne & Shirley 31.6
    1978–1979 30.5
    1979–1980 60 Minutes CBS 28.4
    1980–1981 Dallas 34.5
    1981–1982 28.4
    1982–1983 60 Minutes 25.5
    1983–1984 Dallas 25.7
    1984–1985 Dynasty ABC 25.0
    1985–1986 The Cosby Show NBC 33.7
    1986–1987 34.9
    1987–1988 27.8
    1988–1989 25.6
    1989–1990 The Cosby Show, Roseanne (tie)[21] NBC, ABC 23.1
    1990–1991 Cheers NBC 21.3
    1991–1992 60 Minutes CBS 21.9
    1992–1993
    1993–1994 20.9
    1994–1995 Seinfeld NBC 20.6
    1995–1996 ER 22.0
    1996–1997 21.2
    1997–1998 Seinfeld 21.7
    1998–1999 ER 17.8
    1999–2000 Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? — Tuesday ABC 18.6
    2000–2001 Survivor CBS 17.4
    2001–2002 Friends NBC 15.0
    2002–2003 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation CBS 16.3
    2003–2004 15.0
    2004–2005 16.5
    2005–2006 American Idol — Tuesday FOX 17.6
    2006–2007 American Idol — Wednesday 17.3
    2007–2008 American Idol — Tuesday 10.1
    2008–2009 American Idol — Wednesday 9.2
    2009–2010 American Idol — Tuesday 9.1
    2010–2011 American Idol — Wednesday 8.8
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Jason P wrote:
    People that watch it do it religiously.

    More evidence that we need a secular society....... :lol:
  • inlet13 wrote:
    Fox is bias, MSNBC is bias. They are basically the same, except on opposite ends of the political spectrum. These are known bias news networks.

    Then there's CNBC, which is bias. CNN, which is bias. PBS, which is bias. ABC, NBC, CBS, which is bias. The problem here is these are thought to be unbias networks. Truth be told, they are also a bit less bias in totality, but the issue is their bias in their delivery of actual news (or journalism).

    My point is at least with MSNBC and Fox, you know you are getting bias opinion-based news. With the others, you are getting tints of bias journalism. In other words, the CNN-types are giving you what seems like unbias journalism, but there is a hint of bias (underneath). Which is really worse? I'd say the CNN-types are probably worse, because they pretend like they aren't bias. That said, I probably watch more CNN than anything else.

    For me, I like having all the options. I enjoy watching MSNBC, Fox AND CNN. For business news, I like that CNBC is bias, and that Fox Business is also bias to the other end. It's a balancing act. But, at least I know it.

    The reason Fox does well is simple:

    There's no other networks with their right-leaning bias. Whereas, MSNBC is super-left leaning, CNN (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, etc.) all have left-leaning undertones in their journalism. People aren't stupid. They know this. That's why talk radio did so well for so long. There was no news/opinion sources that told the other side of the story consistently. Fox does now.

    Exactly, that's why I watch Fox News and the Daily Show/Colbert report. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    someone made the comparison between fox and msnbc...

    at least msnbc does not have "news" anywhere in it's name. it markets itself as "the place for politics" and it makes no excuses for being on the left and does not misrepresent itself by calling itself "news"......you know what you are getting when you turn on that channel. plus it's flagship morning show "morning joe" features a republican former congressman... does fox have an actual liberal with their own show??
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    Watching FOX "news" to find out what's really going on in the world is a bit like eating your way through bag of fortune cookies to figure out what's happening with your life-- mildly entertaining at times and occasionally a tad bit aligned with reality but in the long run all you get is empty calories.

    Don't get me wrong- I think pretty much the same about all TV news.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    brianlux wrote:
    Watching FOX "news" to find out what's really going on in the world is a bit like eating your way through bag of fortune cookies to figure out what's happening with your life-- mildly entertaining at times and occasionally a tad bit aligned with reality but in the long run all you get is empty calories.

    Don't get me wrong- I think pretty much the same about all TV news.


    you are a wise man my friend !

    Godfather.
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