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Mamasan23 · January 2012

Saw the EV ep last weekend and loved it. The show is definitely strange, but I'm obsessed with both Battlestar Galactica and EV so I thought it was great. I'd definitely check it out again!

81 · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

Wobbie · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

imalive wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

im both a hipster and a resident of the pacific northwest, so this show is close to home.

what makes you a hipster? I only hear the term but don't really know what qualifies one as a hipster. :?

why you posting your picture here? :?

musicismylife78 · January 2012

i think the generally accepted definition of a hipster, is a person in their 20's, who is into fashion, art and music. they shop at american apparel and urban outfitters. and they enjoy bands that are new and hip, but usually said bands havent made it into the cultural consciousness. Washed Out is a perfect example. Washed Out is on Sub Pop, they soundtrack Portlandia, but few if anyone outside the scene would be able to point out their music. Hipsters can be found in Portland, Brooklyn, Williamsburg, Austin Tx. They read sites like Pitchfork, Stereogum, Brooklyn Vegan. They are fans of Palaniuk, Dave Eggers. They love Wes Anderson and Spike Jonze.

and its a movement and musical scene, but its one of the few i can think of, that has no agenda or political idealogy attached. hipsters arent out to elect a new president, or to change the system. its almost apolitical. \

the most common insult or sterotype is that they like bands before the mass population knows who they are. And when that band becomes popular, they quit liking that band, because now its considered cool. Ive found this pretty inaccurate. As indie has become increasingly popular, the term means less and less. The figureheads of the scene, bands like The Shins, Modest Mouse, Death Cab, Bright Eyes, Interpol, The Decemberists, Spoon etc.. are all wildly popular. Parents and kids alike are fans of these bands. So the idea that hipsters are jumping ship is pretty inaccurate, all you have to do is attend a show and see this isnt the case.

On of the most interesting and bizaare aspects musically of the last decade was the mainstreaming of indie and hipster music. These bands were started as independent and non mainstream musical moments, and somewhere along the lines, the music spread to teens, to parents, to mainstream and pop music fans, to mainstream rock fans and on and on. Someone like Bon Iver, who now is friends with Kanye. Or Arcade Fire, there isnt an unlikelier band to win a Grammy. Or Death Cab being mentioned on what was at the time the most popular show on television. Or indie bands being used on shows like Greys Anatomy or Scrubs or House.

musicismylife78 · January 2012

its still bizaare to me. I see Interpol or the Killers, or Iron and Wine and still see them as small, underground, unknown bands. But the truth is most if not all of the bands i discussed in the previous post, are mainstream bands that most people who are into music know.

dcfaithful · January 2012

imalive wrote:

dcfaithful wrote:

imalive wrote:

what makes you a hipster? I only hear the term but don't really know what qualifies one as a hipster. :?

why you posting your picture here? :?

I admit that I might embrace a few hipster fashion elements. For instance, I wear a baggy beanie, sometimes wear a beard (always a shadow), I do have some crusty old shoes (they are converse, not vans) and most of all I do have a liking for "hipster" bands.

It shall be known though that I respect my palate and do not purchase Pabst, Natural Light, etc.

I also don't have janitor keys because, well... I'm not a fucking janitor.

I don't get trust fund checks either. So if I ever look broke or out of money, it is genuine.

Also, mymusicislife78, you should add Salt Lake City to your list of where hipsters can be found. I think they're taking over this city. Either that, or it's a pit stop between Brooklyn and/or Austin on their way to Portland.

Wobbie · January 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think the generally accepted definition of a hipster, is a person in their 20's, who is into fashion, art and music. they shop at american apparel and urban outfitters. and they enjoy bands that are new and hip, but usually said bands havent made it into the cultural consciousness. Washed Out is a perfect example. Washed Out is on Sub Pop, they soundtrack Portlandia, but few if anyone outside the scene would be able to point out their music. Hipsters can be found in Portland, Brooklyn, Williamsburg, Austin Tx.

I've seen your type in Salt Lake City, too

not to piss you off, but this whole hipster thing seems kind of premeditated and manufactured i.e. not really spontaneous or being true to yourself. I guess any trend is manufactured and I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

dcfaithful · January 2012

imalive wrote:

I've seen your type in Salt Lake City, too

not to piss you off, but this whole hipster thing seems kind of premeditated and manufactured i.e. not really spontaneous or being true to yourself. I guess any trend is manufactured and I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

It's definitely premeditated, as are a lot of subcultures.

Wobbie · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

I also don't have janitor keys because, well... I'm not a fucking janitor.

I don't get trust fund checks either. So if I ever look broke or out of money, it is genuine.

hipsters probably don't have DIO stickers on their cars, either.

norm · January 2012

imalive wrote:

I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

laughing my ass off because i can totally see this

dcfaithful · January 2012

imalive wrote:

dcfaithful wrote:

I also don't have janitor keys because, well... I'm not a fucking janitor.

I don't get trust fund checks either. So if I ever look broke or out of money, it is genuine.

hipsters probably don't have DIO stickers on their cars, either.

That's how I stand out from the pretentious, wayfarer wearing crowd. :twisted:

...and I don't have wayfarers.

dcfaithful · January 2012

norm wrote:

imalive wrote:

I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

laughing my ass off because i can totally see this

Next time I'm at Rob's house, I'm going to ask him to pull out the box of old photos.

Wobbie · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

norm wrote:

imalive wrote:

I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

laughing my ass off because i can totally see this

Next time I'm at Rob's house, I'm going to ask him to pull out the box of old photos.

I drew the line at platform shoes, tho

dcfaithful · January 2012

imalive wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

im both a hipster and a resident of the pacific northwest, so this show is close to home.

what makes you a hipster? I only hear the term but don't really know what qualifies one as a hipster. :?

This should also help you out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKnSGn9 ... 05E86FABAD

dcfaithful · January 2012

Not going to lie, I might still wear a paisley shirt and it is 2012.

musicismylife78 · January 2012

imalive wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i think the generally accepted definition of a hipster, is a person in their 20's, who is into fashion, art and music. they shop at american apparel and urban outfitters. and they enjoy bands that are new and hip, but usually said bands havent made it into the cultural consciousness. Washed Out is a perfect example. Washed Out is on Sub Pop, they soundtrack Portlandia, but few if anyone outside the scene would be able to point out their music. Hipsters can be found in Portland, Brooklyn, Williamsburg, Austin Tx.

I've seen your type in Salt Lake City, too

not to piss you off, but this whole hipster thing seems kind of premeditated and manufactured i.e. not really spontaneous or being true to yourself. I guess any trend is manufactured and I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

its like any musical scene or movement. did everyone who liked and likes grunge music get into it because they actually liked the music, genuinely and truely? yes many people did but some joined on because it was big and a cultural movement. Does everyone who likes hip hop only like it because its a multi billion dollar a year msusic scene? Sure some folks fit that profile, but is it fair to say everyone who likes kanye west or jay-z only likes them because they are popular artists?

i think its ignorant and shallow to label anyone who listens to a certain type of music, or who shops at a store, or likes certain movies, as being only interested in those things for social status or because they feel superior to others etc... You cant know the motivations for everyone. Just like everything else in the world, there are people into things for the right reasons ie because its interesting and cool to them personally, and you have folks who like things because the crowd, the herd, the sheeple like them.

plus im not sure liking bands no one has heard of is the ticket to "cool" in many peoples eyes. You could do alot more productive things, if your goal was to be popular and hip and trendy, than be a fan of Washed Out, or Oneohtrix point never, or Flying Lotus.

musicismylife78 · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

imalive wrote:

I've seen your type in Salt Lake City, too

not to piss you off, but this whole hipster thing seems kind of premeditated and manufactured i.e. not really spontaneous or being true to yourself. I guess any trend is manufactured and I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

It's definitely premeditated, as are a lot of subcultures.

somewhat agree. Theres those people who are genuinely into the subculture that like the music, art, fashion because its appealing to them personally, and there are those out to cash in, jump on the bandwagon, "be cool", follow trends, etc...

Name any musical movement, hip hop, grunge, punk, brit pop, hippie music, folk music, house, dubstep, and you will find the same dischotomy. its not unique at all. People like the music because its pleasing to them, and then you have people who like the music because its cool to like it, or because they want to fit in.

dcfaithful · January 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

if your goal was to be popular and hip and trendy, than be a fan of Washed Out, or Oneohtrix point never, or Flying Lotus.

or Arcade Fire and The Black Keys. I say that only because those two bands have really blown up recently and seem to be a real hit with the whole "hipster" crowd.

dcfaithful · January 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

dcfaithful wrote:

imalive wrote:

I've seen your type in Salt Lake City, too

not to piss you off, but this whole hipster thing seems kind of premeditated and manufactured i.e. not really spontaneous or being true to yourself. I guess any trend is manufactured and I guess my bell bottomed, long haired, paisley shirt look of the 70s wasn't exactly original, either....

It's definitely premeditated, as are a lot of subcultures.

somewhat agree. Theres those people who are genuinely into the subculture that like the music, art, fashion because its appealing to them personally, and there are those out to cash in, jump on the bandwagon, "be cool", follow trends, etc...

Name any musical movement, hip hop, grunge, punk, brit pop, hippie music, folk music, house, dubstep, and you will find the same dischotomy. its not unique at all. People like the music because its pleasing to them, and then you have people who like the music because its cool to like it, or because they want to fit in.

Right. There will always ben genuine people, and there will always be bandwagoners. It's just how it goes.

There are bands that are associated with the "hipster" movement that I have heard a lot about, listened to and honestly enjoyed, ppreciated and continue to like. Then there are some that I have given an honest chance and they are not my cup of tea. I would never go around toting a band name as a favorite of mine just because they are the flavor of the week, month, year when I truly have no heartfelt feelings for them. That is being dishonest to yourself.

Wobbie · January 2012

dcfaithful wrote:

This should also help you out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKnSGn9 ... 05E86FABAD

"my life is beyond your comprehension"

I'm not going to bash musicismylife. he/she seems like a good cat/chick.

I am glad I now know what to call these folks I've been seeing around....in their flannel shirts, their wayfarers and skinny jeans

this forum can be quite educational.

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