All hail the great and wise King Obama
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Newch91 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:scott brown, a republican, came out in support of this move. i guess he really is threatened in november...
are you all trolling and derailing my thread"The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
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bigdvs wrote:Newch91 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:scott brown, a republican, came out in support of this move. i guess he really is threatened in november...
are you all trolling and derailing my thread
It doesn't appear that he was. This thread derailed when recess appointments were deemed out of the ordinary all of a sudden.0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:RFTC wrote:yawn, recess appointees happen every admin, check the facts not faux news or redgarbagestate.com
and i live in one :roll:
actually obama has done less recess appoinments than anyone in recent history. look it up.
what is he going to do, just let the senate continue to block his appointees just because they can?
scott brown, a republican, came out in support of this move. i guess he really is threatened in november...
This Scott Brown?
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RFTC wrote:yawn, recess appointees happen every admin, check the facts not faux news or redgarbagestate.com
and i live in one :roll:
No offense, but get YOUR facts right.
They're NOT in recess.0 -
inmytree wrote:bigdvs wrote:http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2012/01/04/a-blatant-frontal-assault-on-the-constitutional-separation-of-powers/
A Blatant, Frontal Assault on the Constitutional Separation of Powers
Posted by Leon H. Wolf (Diary)
Wednesday, January 4th at 9:03PM EST
Regarding the power of the President, Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution states:
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
The Senate’s power to pass on all appointments of Officers of the United States is explicitly enshrined in the Constitution. The one and only exception to this Congressional power occurs when the Senate is in recess. Despite the fact that, according to the Senate, the Senate is most emphatically not in recess, and despite the fact that they have been meeting every two days even over the holiday, the Obama administration has taken it upon themselves to declare that the Senate is in fact in recess and has made recess appointments to both the NRLB and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Consider the astonishing timeline here – Obama submitted the names of his proposed appointments two weeks ago - two weeks ago - there has been no filibuster of the appointments; there hasn’t even been a cloture vote scheduled. The Senate hasn’t taken any action one way or another because there’s this holiday that happens in the last two weeks of December that some Americans celebrate, but Reid has kept the Senate in pro forma session, including regular meetings, to preserve the Senate’s prerogative to advise and consent on Obama’s nominees, as it is absolutely and beyond caveat the Senate’s prerogative to do. Thus, despite the fact that the Senate isn’t even dragging its feet on these appointments, and despite the fact that the Senate has been adamant that it is not in recess, Obama has arrogated to himself the power to declare the Senate in recess for them and short circuit the entire Constitutional process for Senate confirmation of Constitutional officers.
This is nothing less than an assault by President Obama on the entire institution of the Senate. And it appears to serve no purpose other than Obama telling the Senate that he will do whatever he darn well pleases.
I can safely say that this is the ballsiest thing I have ever seen a President do that served absolutely no meaningful purpose at all. If Congress – and I am including Congressional Democrats in this – takes this lying down, it will set a breathtaking precedent and instantaneously demolish a significant part of Congress’ relevance. Consider that if Congress allows this to stand, then the next Republican President might just announce Jay Sekulow for his next SCOTUS appointment, and then two weeks later when the Senate breaks for the weekend, declare them in recess and appoint him to the Court. If Democrats consider this to be an undesirable view of the future, I would suggest that they figure out a way to cooperate with Republicans in making Obama pay a very real price for this blatant slap at their constitutional authority.
ooooh, a redstate diary....thanks for posting... :yawn:
Don't feel bad about not reading it... it was WAY over your head anyway...
Constitution and all...0 -
mikepegg44 wrote:RFTC wrote:yawn, recess appointees happen every admin, check the facts not faux news or redgarbagestate.com
and i live in one :roll:
I think the issue some have with this one is that technically the senate was in session
pro forma session I believe it is called
doesn't worry me enough to look it up
I heard something about it this morning on the news I wasn't paying much attention.
Don't worry about it...
Just Obama violating the Constitution agaiin...
Just tyranny... let's all keep dancing.0 -
I think the more our democracy and society declines, the greater the need for a dictatorship or perhaps a monarchy. So I'm all for a King. Our citizens don't deserve their freedoms.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
MayDay Malone wrote:RFTC wrote:yawn, recess appointees happen every admin, check the facts not faux news or redgarbagestate.com
and i live in one :roll:
No offense, but get YOUR facts right.
They're NOT in recess.
Well then as a taxpayer you should be outraged. If they're in session for a matter of a few seconds every day and not doing a single thing but gaveling in every four days, you should be outraged.0 -
ledvedderman wrote:It doesn't appear that he was. This thread derailed when recess appointments were deemed out of the ordinary all of a sudden.
that is exactly why i said what i said. it as relevent to the topic...
recess apointments are normal procedure for any president.
is is a dick move? yes, but so is what the senate is doing."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
ledvedderman wrote:MayDay Malone wrote:RFTC wrote:yawn, recess appointees happen every admin, check the facts not faux news or redgarbagestate.com
and i live in one :roll:
No offense, but get YOUR facts right.
They're NOT in recess.
Well then as a taxpayer you should be outraged. If they're in session for a matter of a few seconds every day and not doing a single thing but gaveling in every four days, you should be outraged.
Brother, you said it.
The only entity I AM more outraged at than the President is this god-awful Congress.0 -
Congress is not allowing the President to carry out his constitutional duties. So what is it? The chicken or the egg? It's because of this that these recess appointments don't upset me.0
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:ledvedderman wrote:It doesn't appear that he was. This thread derailed when recess appointments were deemed out of the ordinary all of a sudden.
that is exactly why i said what i said. it as relevent to the topic...
recess apointments are normal procedure for any president.
is is a dick move? yes, but so is what the senate is doing.
C'mon Gimme. You always call us out for "regurgitating Rush or Fox News", but in this case, you are doing the same thing with the liberal rebuttal... "Recess appointments happen- Bush did it, etc"
EXCEPT: Congress was NOT in recess. I know we differ, but THIS is something that should concern every American. After signing the law that allows the President to imprison w/out reason or trial, any American citizen deemed a threat- indefinitely- we should ALL be concerned.
This makes the Patriot Act look like Sesame Street.
This is the face of TYRANNY.0 -
ledvedderman wrote:Congress is not allowing the President to carry out his constitutional duties. So what is it? The chicken or the egg? It's because of this that these recess appointments don't upset me.
Good. That's the way it is supposed to work.
separation of powers. checks and balances.
Without The US Constitution, we're Venezuela. Or worse.
Say hello. This is the face of tyranny, the first time he reaches out to shake your hand.
"Look at all the people, clapping for their own demise."
This is how it starts.0 -
MayDay Malone wrote:After signing the law that allows the President to imprison w/out reason or trial, any American citizen deemed a threat- indefinitely- we should ALL be concerned.
This makes the Patriot Act look like Sesame Street.
This is the face of TYRANNY.
That law is some scary shit. What was the point?!Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
JonnyPistachio wrote:MayDay Malone wrote:After signing the law that allows the President to imprison w/out reason or trial, any American citizen deemed a threat- indefinitely- we should ALL be concerned.
This makes the Patriot Act look like Sesame Street.
This is the face of TYRANNY.
That law is some scary shit. What was the point?!
They buried it in the defense bill, S 1867 (I think it was). Gives the Executive explicit powers to detain any American citizen w/out trial for undetermined amount of time- supposed to be only applied to citizens that are suspected of al Queda affiliation. I guess they use the Patriot Act to determine that. Now they have this law to make you disappear. Scary shit.
Obama is scarier than Bush to me, bc Obama pretends he isn't who he is. You knew what you were gettin w/ Bush, and could love it or hate it.
This guy is a dictator.0 -
MayDay Malone wrote:JonnyPistachio wrote:MayDay Malone wrote:After signing the law that allows the President to imprison w/out reason or trial, any American citizen deemed a threat- indefinitely- we should ALL be concerned.
This makes the Patriot Act look like Sesame Street.
This is the face of TYRANNY.
That law is some scary shit. What was the point?!
They buried it in the defense bill, S 1867 (I think it was). Gives the Executive explicit powers to detain any American citizen w/out trial for undetermined amount of time- supposed to be only applied to citizens that are suspected of al Queda affiliation. I guess they use the Patriot Act to determine that. Now they have this law to make you disappear. Scary shit.
Obama is scarier than Bush to me, bc Obama pretends he isn't who he is. You knew what you were gettin w/ Bush, and could love it or hate it.
This guy is a dictator."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
fear4freedom wrote:AND NOBODY ON THIS PEARL JAM SITE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE IS WORSE THAN BUSH!
IF SOMEBODY DIDNT LIKE BUSH CAUSE OF HIS SPENDING OR THE PATRIOT ACT....SHIT THAT WAS NOTHING!
OBAMA IS 50 TIMES WORSE ON BOTH OF THEM!
OBAMA HAS EXPANDED THE POWERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVT. LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY! HOW COULD ANYONE THINK ITS GOOD? INSANE!
Obama is clearly a fucking moron. Is he worse than Bush? Hard to say, flip a coin, they both suck equally in my mind.
Bush cleared the ground and Obama is paving the road. That's how I see it.
I would love to hear what Eddie thinks of Obama now after supporting this idiot 4 years ago. I hope Eddie feels like a fucking moron. Cause he should.9/13/1998 - 9/15/1998 - 8/29/2000 - 7/2/2003 - 7/3/2003 - 7/11/2003 - 9/28/2004 - 9/28/2005 - 5/13/2006 - 5/27/2006 - 6/1/2006 - 6/28/2008 - 6/30/2008 - 5/17/2010 - 10/25/20130 -
Bant wrote:fear4freedom wrote:AND NOBODY ON THIS PEARL JAM SITE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE IS WORSE THAN BUSH!
IF SOMEBODY DIDNT LIKE BUSH CAUSE OF HIS SPENDING OR THE PATRIOT ACT....SHIT THAT WAS NOTHING!
OBAMA IS 50 TIMES WORSE ON BOTH OF THEM!
OBAMA HAS EXPANDED THE POWERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVT. LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY! HOW COULD ANYONE THINK ITS GOOD? INSANE!
Obama is clearly a fucking moron. Is he worse than Bush? Hard to say, flip a coin, they both suck equally in my mind.
Bush cleared the ground and Obama is paving the road. That's how I see it.
I would love to hear what Eddie thinks of Obama now after supporting this idiot 4 years ago. I hope Eddie feels like a fucking moron. Cause he should.0 -
Funny this doesn't bother me at all he has been blocked on everything he has tried to get passed and gotten nowhere with this congress ....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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CH156378 wrote:Bant wrote:fear4freedom wrote:AND NOBODY ON THIS PEARL JAM SITE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE IS WORSE THAN BUSH!
IF SOMEBODY DIDNT LIKE BUSH CAUSE OF HIS SPENDING OR THE PATRIOT ACT....SHIT THAT WAS NOTHING!
OBAMA IS 50 TIMES WORSE ON BOTH OF THEM!
OBAMA HAS EXPANDED THE POWERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVT. LIKE NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY! HOW COULD ANYONE THINK ITS GOOD? INSANE!
Obama is clearly a fucking moron. Is he worse than Bush? Hard to say, flip a coin, they both suck equally in my mind.
Bush cleared the ground and Obama is paving the road. That's how I see it.
I would love to hear what Eddie thinks of Obama now after supporting this idiot 4 years ago. I hope Eddie feels like a fucking moron. Cause he should.
Ya, cause I said I was perfect. :roll:
Pull your head out of your ass, ok?9/13/1998 - 9/15/1998 - 8/29/2000 - 7/2/2003 - 7/3/2003 - 7/11/2003 - 9/28/2004 - 9/28/2005 - 5/13/2006 - 5/27/2006 - 6/1/2006 - 6/28/2008 - 6/30/2008 - 5/17/2010 - 10/25/20130
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