if we are making the picks before the playoffs start, how can we use point spreads?
aren't these kinds of pools just about picking the winners?
I think in Ed's pool, we would bet the spread week to week, just like we've been doing all along. In Horos' pool we would make all of picks before the playoffs start and we would be picking the winners.
Another habit says it's in love with you
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
I've done a playoff pool before where you rank each playoff team with a value from 1-12. You get that number of points each time that team wins...
example: lets use these as the teams:
AFC............................ NFC
1. New England................1. GB
2. BAltimore...................2. SF
3. Houston.....................3. NO
4. Denver......................4. NYG
5. Pitt..........................5. ATL
6. Cincy .......................6. DET
So you fill out something like this:
12: GB
11: NE
10: NO
9: BAL
8: PIT
7: SF
6: NYG
5: HOU
4: DEN
3: ATL
2: CIN
1: DET
In week 1 if the wildcard round winners are ATL, PIT, NO and HOU, you get 3, 8, 10 and 5 points for a total of 26
In the divisional round lets say all 4 home teams win, GB, NE, BAL, SF, you get 12, 11, 9 and 7 points for a total of 39 for the week, 65 total
In the title games NE and SF win, you get 11 and 7 for 18 for the week and 83 total
And NE wins the Super Bowl (woohoo), you get 11 for the week and 94 total.
We use total points in the SB as tiebreaker.
You basically want to put 12 points on the team you think will win the SB, you want to make the first week losers values 1, 2, 3 and 4 (but if one of those teams goes on a run you get hurt).
As for a point spread pool, we'd just pick weekly (I would also pick weakly), but we certainly need a tiebreaker with only 11 games there's bound to be a tie, so again I'd assume total SB points would make sense or we could predict how may complaint threads will show up on the porch during the next PJ ticket presale and the closest to that would win the tiebreaker.
Plus an NCAA type pool really can't work since you don't know which team goes where for the divisional round until after wildcard weekend cause they reseed.
Plus an NCAA type pool really can't work since you don't know which team goes where for the divisional round until after wildcard weekend cause they reseed.
If you know how brackets work its easy to get the matchups in the right place. Been doing it for 10 years just like March Madness. I'm down for this or your method.
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
if phardin could send juggs the 20 he owes, i will send juggs the remaining 170
and
sos owed the pot 40
so if davidtrios, vermont, and waiting trophy could send sos the 20 each they owe
we will be all set
lemme know if i have made any mistakes
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
and please post if you are interested in doing a playoff pool if you have not posted about it already
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
if phardin could send juggs the 20 he owes, i will send juggs the remaining 170
and
sos owed the pot 40
so if davidtrios, vermont, and waiting trophy could send sos the 20 each they owe
we will be all set
lemme know if i have made any mistakes
:thumbup: good year guys....
not that i care, but was i supposed to receive the $20 the week of my 6 for 6 or is that what you're talking about with phardin sending it to me? i never got anything for that. it's 20 bucks so i don't really care but was just curious...
and i am absolutely down for a playoff pool. i liked ponce's idea a from last week.
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
if phardin could send juggs the 20 he owes, i will send juggs the remaining 170
and
sos owed the pot 40
so if davidtrios, vermont, and waiting trophy could send sos the 20 each they owe
we will be all set
lemme know if i have made any mistakes
:thumbup: good year guys....
not that i care, but was i supposed to receive the $20 the week of my 6 for 6 or is that what you're talking about with phardin sending it to me? i never got anything for that. it's 20 bucks so i don't really care but was just curious...
and i am absolutely down for a playoff pool. i liked ponce's idea a from last week.
My bad juggs. PM me your address. I'll mail this today. I'll also do a playoff pool
Thanks all! Special thanks to Eric for all his hard work. Let's hope I can make some $$ back in the playoff pool. I'll send the remaining $20 to whomever.
Randy
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Comments
if we are making the picks before the playoffs start, how can we use point spreads?
aren't these kinds of pools just about picking the winners?
I think in Ed's pool, we would bet the spread week to week, just like we've been doing all along. In Horos' pool we would make all of picks before the playoffs start and we would be picking the winners.
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
I've done a playoff pool before where you rank each playoff team with a value from 1-12. You get that number of points each time that team wins...
example: lets use these as the teams:
AFC............................ NFC
1. New England................1. GB
2. BAltimore...................2. SF
3. Houston.....................3. NO
4. Denver......................4. NYG
5. Pitt..........................5. ATL
6. Cincy .......................6. DET
So you fill out something like this:
12: GB
11: NE
10: NO
9: BAL
8: PIT
7: SF
6: NYG
5: HOU
4: DEN
3: ATL
2: CIN
1: DET
In week 1 if the wildcard round winners are ATL, PIT, NO and HOU, you get 3, 8, 10 and 5 points for a total of 26
In the divisional round lets say all 4 home teams win, GB, NE, BAL, SF, you get 12, 11, 9 and 7 points for a total of 39 for the week, 65 total
In the title games NE and SF win, you get 11 and 7 for 18 for the week and 83 total
And NE wins the Super Bowl (woohoo), you get 11 for the week and 94 total.
We use total points in the SB as tiebreaker.
You basically want to put 12 points on the team you think will win the SB, you want to make the first week losers values 1, 2, 3 and 4 (but if one of those teams goes on a run you get hurt).
As for a point spread pool, we'd just pick weekly (I would also pick weakly), but we certainly need a tiebreaker with only 11 games there's bound to be a tie, so again I'd assume total SB points would make sense or we could predict how may complaint threads will show up on the porch during the next PJ ticket presale and the closest to that would win the tiebreaker.
week 17
buf
ne -10.5
ten
hou +3.5
ind
jax +3.5
chi
min -1.5
was
phi -8.5
nyj
mia -3.5
car
no -8.5
sf
stl +10.5
det
gb +3.5
sd
oak -3.5
kc
den -3.5
sea
az -3.5
tb
atl -11.5
pit
cle +7.5
bal
cin +2.5
dal
nyg -3.5
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
let's do this
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
good luck gents. and happy new year.
week 17
buf
ne -10.5
ten
hou +3.5
ind
jax +3.5
chi
min -1.5
was
phi -8.5
nyj
mia -3.5
car
no -8.5
sf
stl +10.5
det
gb +3.5
sd
oak -3.5
kc
den -3.5
sea
az -3.5
tb
atl -11.5
pit
cle +7.5
bal
cin +2.5
dal
nyg -3.5
****ed243421**** buf chi mia car sf det
******phardin******
******poncier****** min nyj sd cle cin nyg
*south of seattle* ne no sf pit nyj den
****the juggler**** ne hou sf kc pit nyg
*******horos******* sea ten ind nyj kc dal
****davidtrios**** jax stl dal kc pit cin
****vermont21**** ten ind was car oak den
**fmeinthebrain** jax nyj sea sd dal sf
**waiting trophy** mia det sea min bal was
******after******
*****week16***** W - L
*******sos******* 53 - 43
*****juggler***** 53 - 43
*waitingtrophy* 51 - 45
********ed******* 49 - 47
****davidtrios*** 49 - 47
******horos****** 47 - 49
***f' me in the** 45 - 51
*****phardin***** 45 - 51
***vermont21*** 39 - 57
*****poncier***** 38 - 58
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
i had this game written off too
i loved it.
haha...even if it went to ot, most likely outcome would have been a fg either way though...
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
this is what i got
we can change mistakes if necessary
*****week17***** W - L
*****juggler***** 4 - 2
***f' me in the** 4 - 2
*****poncier***** 4 - 2
****davidtrios*** 3 - 3
*******sos******* 3 - 3
******horos****** 3 - 3
*waitingtrophy* 2 - 4
********ed******* 1 - 5
*****phardin***** 0 - 6
***vermont21*** 0 - 6
pick of the week - juggler / kc +3.5
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
*****week17***** W - L
*****juggler***** 57 - 45
*******sos******* 56 - 46
*waitingtrophy* 53 - 49
****davidtrios*** 52 - 50
******horos****** 51 - 51
********ed******* 50 - 52
***f' me in the** 49 - 53
*****phardin***** 45 - 57
*****poncier***** 43 - 59
***vermont21*** 39 - 63
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
400 in the pool
minus the 90 i hit for 6-for-6
minus the 20 juggs hit for 6-for-6
= 290 in the pool
this is 160 for 1st place
70 for 2nd place
and the 60 left over in the 6-for-6 pot
the 60 gets split between 1st and 2nd place
so
juggs in 1st place gets 190
sos in 2nd place gets 100
so
if phardin could send juggs the 20 he owes, i will send juggs the remaining 170
and
sos owed the pot 40
so if davidtrios, vermont, and waiting trophy could send sos the 20 each they owe
we will be all set
lemme know if i have made any mistakes
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
and south of seattle
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
:thumbup: good year guys....
not that i care, but was i supposed to receive the $20 the week of my 6 for 6 or is that what you're talking about with phardin sending it to me? i never got anything for that. it's 20 bucks so i don't really care but was just curious...
and i am absolutely down for a playoff pool. i liked ponce's idea a from last week.
i will pm him
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
My bad juggs. PM me your address. I'll mail this today. I'll also do a playoff pool
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Thanks Eric for running this again...its a lot of work and it is appreciated.
Randy
Props to Juggler, a great season!