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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    So being male and female gives you the right to have children seems to be the only requirement to bring a child into this world.
    sorry its a lot more than that
    a hell of a lot more. any drug addled pair of criminal misfits can have children.??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
    but because two people have the same genitals
    NO WAY
    get over yourselves neanderthals
    its nearly 2012

    I find it funny that you assign the labels drug addled and criminal misfits to only hetero couples.
    My former neighbours (lesbian couple) were drug addicts and always fighting. I lost count the amount of times the Cops had to be called, thankfully they moved as they used to abuse me and my parents for simply being outside in our yard. You misspelt divided.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    catefrances wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    I don't agree. *awaiting bashing by the lefties*



    can wait til your lesbian daughter brings home her lover and child.


    im speaking hypothetically of course at this point but dont say it wont/cant happen, cause you dont know... but you should at least be open minded enough to consider theres a chance it might. there are gay people everywhere and many many more yet to be born.... so look out cause you just might find yourself living with one... or two. ;)8-)

    I am not against them, I believe a child deserves a father figure in their lives.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    I don't agree. *awaiting bashing by the lefties*



    can wait til your lesbian daughter brings home her lover and child.


    im speaking hypothetically of course at this point but dont say it wont/cant happen, cause you dont know... but you should at least be open minded enough to consider theres a chance it might. there are gay people everywhere and many many more yet to be born.... so look out cause you just might find yourself living with one... or two. ;)8-)

    I am not against them, I believe a child deserves a father figure in their lives.


    what they need is a good male role model.... whether that be a teacher, a neighbour, a cousin, an older friend or whatever.
    hear my name
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    lie beside me
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  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    So being male and female gives you the right to have children seems to be the only requirement to bring a child into this world.
    sorry its a lot more than that
    a hell of a lot more. any drug addled pair of criminal misfits can have children.??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
    but because two people have the same genitals
    NO WAY
    get over yourselves neanderthals
    its nearly 2012

    I find it funny that you assign the labels drug addled and criminal misfits to only hetero couples.
    My former neighbours (lesbian couple) were drug addicts and always fighting. I lost count the amount of times the Cops had to be called, thankfully they moved as they used to abuse me and my parents for simply being outside in our yard. You misspelt divided.
    maybe wait for those thoughts to arrive hey and note the comments
    so being amle and female gives you the right ( thats one comment)
    any drug addled pair of criminal misfits can have children ( second comment)
    where in the second does it say HETROSEXUAL

    anyone can be a criminal misfit. much the same way anyone can be a great parent regardless if their partner has a the same genitals

    and I chose to spell my name that way, funny its taken you this bloody long to figure that out. di that thought just get here
    fair bit of lag it would seem
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    Fathers as role models
    from my experience i disagree. My father is far from any type of role model. I work really hard to be absolutly nothing like him. an anti role model.
    He is a racist bigot with nothing but fear and hate within him, who cannot communicate anything but more fear and hate. beat his wife , his children his girlfreind but forgives himself cause he went to confession.

    My male role model was my best friends dad( RIP) he showed what it was to be proud of myself by being honest to myself, honest to those who love me. my mother as well made me into the hardworking determined person I am. My wife is my role model who has shown me how to be a father and husband. and adult
    my two gay neighbours are good role models in how they are the center of our neighbourhood, our community. they are welcome at my door at any time. as we are at theirs.
    role models are not just or even parents. its who in your life motivates you to be better. it can be your mum and dad but i reckon it could be your dads or your mums. its who they are not what they are
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    catefrances wrote:
    what they need is a good male role model.... whether that be a teacher, a neighbour, a cousin, an older friend or whatever.

    Yeah but they are not full-time.
    Needs to be someone that lives with them.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    what they need is a good male role model.... whether that be a teacher, a neighbour, a cousin, an older friend or whatever.

    Yeah but they are not full-time.
    Needs to be someone that lives with them.

    They don't have to live with them. It's the quality of the relationship that matters, not the actual minutes spent together.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    what they need is a good male role model.... whether that be a teacher, a neighbour, a cousin, an older friend or whatever.

    Yeah but they are not full-time.
    Needs to be someone that lives with them.


    well it might interest you to know that my now 14 year old son hasnt had a live in father since he was 18 months old. both he and his younger sister, who never even lived with her father, think that that absent father hung the moon. their bond is extremely close mainly because i insisted such a relationship happen. despite his absence, their father is a strong, constant and positive presence in their life. and my children are well brought up, strong, funny and smart. and it turns out theyre nice people too... so to tell me that a good male role model needs to live in, is just utter bullshit... from experience i know different.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Is there anything we can agree on lol?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    And everything else here lol.
    Full of arguments and lockings here.
    Politics is a dirty word.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • your move now
    your move now Posts: 1,165
    politcs can be an awful lot of fun though... and a world without politics..... sadly don't think it would be full of peace and love.
    and anarchy would get old real fast
    I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    The topic of discrimination toward gays usually ends up the same because, on this issue, it's difficult for people to shift their thinking in a back-and-forth discussion. People who have changed their negative opinion of gays and lesbians often did so through personal contact and relationships with gays. So Godfather, all I can recommend is that you get out and meet more people.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    The topic of discrimination toward gays usually ends up the same because, on this issue, it's difficult for people to shift their thinking in a back-and-forth discussion. People who have changed their negative opinion of gays and lesbians often did so through personal contact and relationships with gays. So Godfather, all I can recommend is that you get out and meet more people.

    ^^^^ 100%
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    The topic of discrimination toward gays usually ends up the same because, on this issue, it's difficult for people to shift their thinking in a back-and-forth discussion. People who have changed their negative opinion of gays and lesbians often did so through personal contact and relationships with gays. So Godfather, all I can recommend is that you get out and meet more people.

    thanks but I have enuff friends as it is :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    And everything else here lol.
    Full of arguments and lockings here.
    Politics is a dirty word.

    good point.

    Godfather.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    what they need is a good male role model.... whether that be a teacher, a neighbour, a cousin, an older friend or whatever.

    Yeah but they are not full-time.
    Needs to be someone that lives with them.

    so do you also think that divorce is wrong? stay married and miserable to keep daddy at home?
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    no offense to you guys but why is the g & l thing brought up on this board ? it's always the same old hat that gets tossed around and always ends up the same way.

    Godfather.

    you mean like god/religion?
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Is there anything we can agree on lol?

    possibly.... how do you feel about cats??
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    catefrances wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Is there anything we can agree on lol?

    possibly.... how do you feel about cats??

    I love cats, not a fan of dogs.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014

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