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Coming back to life wrote:I'd like to see same-sex couples treated equally everywhere else 1st. How can a kid be expected to not face bullying if the law itself tells his yearmates that same-sex couples are 2nd class citizens?
this is a good point. plus, as people mentioned... kids will find reasons to make fun of you. if it's not gay parents, it'll be poor parents or jewish parents or one parent or whatever else. there's always an excuse. furthermore, i feel like partially gay parents would be able to do very well at training their kids to handle that kind of bullying, having faced it most of their lives themselves.0 -
cinredzfan47 wrote:I used to think it was wrong for homosexuals to raise children. It's obviously not natural to be gay, it's not the way we were created. We were created with the sole purpose of creating offspring, and the only way to do so is through heterosexual relations. There is no arguing that, we were meant to be with members of the oppostite sex. .
biologically we are meant to procreate with the opposite sex to create offspring but to "be with"... that you can argue with. sex is just sex, but love is different.DOWNLOAD THE LATEST ISSUE OF The Last Reel: http://www.mediafire.com/?jdsqazrjzdt
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cinredzfan47 wrote:It's obviously not natural to be gay, it's not the way we were created. We were created with the sole purpose of creating offspring, and the only way to do so is through heterosexual relations. There is no arguing that, we were meant to be with members of the oppostite sex.
It's purely interpretation of the facts that we are created for the sole purpose of creating offspring. Tomato, tomahto. Subjective opinion."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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i've seen plenty of straight couples have children and do a piss-poor job of raising them. on the other hand, i know two gay couples (one lesbian couple, one gay male couple) who have adopted children- from piss-poor rejects who should have never procreated to begin with- and the children are thriving, finally, in loving homes.
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Gay couples raising children is fine for the couple and everyone else, but the most important consideration- THE CHILD- might have some tough obstacles growing up. I'm not at all homophobic, but it might not be fair to the child to be picked on for something they never chose.MANSFIELD 7/3/03, 7/11/03
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falcon wrote:Gay couples raising children is fine for the couple and everyone else, but the most important consideration- THE CHILD- might have some tough obstacles growing up. I'm not at all homophobic, but it might not be fair to the child to be picked on for something they never chose.
Fat kids get picked on. So should over-weight parents not be allowed to reproduce because they stand a good chance of having/raising an over-weight child that runs a high possibility of being picked on at school. Kids are going to pick on each other for an unlimited amount of reasons. Being over weight, not being popular, not being athletic, being short, acne, glasses, braces, etc… The list can go on and on. I don't think that using the excuse that the child will be picked on is a good reason to bar homosexuals from adobting."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
I can't believe it's not PC to say this- All children should have a mother AND a father.MANSFIELD 7/3/03, 7/11/03
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mammasan wrote:Fat kids get picked on. So should over-weight parents not be allowed to reproduce because they stand a good chance of having/raising an over-weight child that runs a high possibility of being picked on at school. Kids are going to pick on each other for an unlimited amount of reasons. Being over weight, not being popular, not being athletic, being short, acne, glasses, braces, etc… The list can go on and on. I don't think that using the excuse that the child will be picked on is a good reason to bar homosexuals from adobting.
You can't say that unless you were in that situation.MANSFIELD 7/3/03, 7/11/03
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falcon wrote:You can't say that unless you were in that situation.
Can't say what? My older brother is gay. He was married had two kids then came out of the closet. His kids are fine. There where some asshole kids who said shit to them, but for the most part nobody cared that their father was gay. Just like any other kid growing up who has some asshole pick on them for one reason or another. So yes I can say what I said."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
You can't say that "unless you're in that situation". You didn't read the second half of the sentence.
So you CAN say that. Read the entire sentence before you reply.MANSFIELD 7/3/03, 7/11/03
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mammasan wrote:Can't say what? My older brother is gay. He was married had two kids then came out of the closet. His kids are fine. There where some asshole kids who said shit to them, but for the most part nobody cared that their father was gay. Just like any other kid growing up who has some asshole pick on them for one reason or another. So yes I can say what I said.
Good point. It wasn't too long ago that the child of an interracial couple would have had the same problems."Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."0 -
falcon wrote:You can't say that "unless you're in that situation". You didn't read the second half of the sentence.
So you CAN say that. Read the entire sentence before you reply.
I read your entire post. Where you ever in that situation? If not then you really can't say that they would be harrassed at school. I am going by the experiences my niece and nephew went through and no one harrassed them or made their life at school intolerable. So again I can say what I said because I am speaking from the experience family members have had. Will it be the same in every case, no. Like I said kids get picked on for a wide variety of reasons and to use that excuse as a reason to deny homosexuals the right to have/adopt children is utter bullshit."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:I read your entire post. Where you ever in that situation? If not then you really can't say that they would be harrassed at school. I am going by the experiences my niece and nephew went through and no one harrassed them or made their life at school intolerable. So again I can say what I said because I am speaking from the experience family members have had. Will it be the same in every case, no. Like I said kids get picked on for a wide variety of reasons and to use that excuse as a reason to deny homosexuals the right to have/adopt children is utter bullshit.
Once again, I never said you couldn't speak from experience. I also never said they should be denied a right to adopt children. What I am saying is that if they have the child's best interests in mind at all times, then I have no problem.MANSFIELD 7/3/03, 7/11/03
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falcon wrote:Once again, I never said you couldn't speak from experience. I also never said they should be denied a right to adopt children. What I am saying is that if they have the child's best interests in mind at all times, then I have no problem.
I'm pretty sure that a gay couple enduring all the shit they have to go through to adopt a child is going to have the child's best interest at heart. Your comment can apply to any parent not just gay ones."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
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it they are good, responsibile people, i say any couple has the right to raise childrenPost edited by davidtrios on0
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I have been a Social Worker for many years. Gay adoption is not legal here in Florida....yet. I would truly like children to live in a loving environment whether it be hetero or gay. So many people disagree with me on this....but I stick to my beliefs.....Loving homes versus abusive homes. So many children are removed temporarily while their parents try to get their lives in order. Children sometimes find stability in Foster care - only to be returned to the chaos of their parents. How does this benefit any child?
I don't believe that a child raised by gays makes the child gay. There is a long process to adopting...doesn't happen overnight. I want Florida to allow loving gay people to be able to adopt children in order to provide much needed stability and loving homes.The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
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PearlJain wrote:I have been a Social Worker for many years. Gay adoption is not legal here in Florida....yet. I would truly like children to live in a loving environment whether it be hetero or gay. So many people disagree with me on this....but I stick to my beliefs.....Loving homes versus abusive homes. So many children are removed temporarily while their parents try to get their lives in order. Children sometimes find stability in Foster care - only to be returned to the chaos of their parents. How does this benefit any child?
I don't believe that a child raised by gays makes the child gay. There is a long process to adopting...doesn't happen overnight. I want Florida to allow loving gay people to be able to adopt children in order to provide much needed stability and loving homes.0 -
falcon wrote:Gay couples raising children is fine for the couple and everyone else, but the most important consideration- THE CHILD- might have some tough obstacles growing up. I'm not at all homophobic, but it might not be fair to the child to be picked on for something they never chose.
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