So strange there is such a variance in size with the Anolog shirt. Typically there are 2 inches between sizes... Some brands will run an inch between sizes. if they are skimpy.....bummer the returns didn't work out :(
Question is what is a "real woman's size medium or large"?
That's what shirts can hopefully get to....
Where I need length in a shirt it sounds like many need room for the girls which is not an issue for me.
:oops: :oops:
Again my sympathy to the guy, cause in my mind it is a man, that has to figure this shirt situation out.
“This is a ah another request fulfillment. If none of the other of you like it at least one guy does. Actually it’s a girl, she’s right back there.”
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So strange there is such a variance in size with the Anolog shirt. Typically there are 2 inches between sizes... Some brands will run an inch between sizes. if they are skimpy.....bummer the returns didn't work out :(
Question is what is a "real woman's size medium or large"?
That's what shirts can hopefully get to....
Where I need length in a shirt it sounds like many need room for the girls which is not an issue for me.
:oops: :oops:
Again my sympathy to the guy, cause in my mind it is a man, that has to figure this shirt situation out.
Ok, I sew and have, on occasion, made clothes for myself. So here is your answer on sizing that best gives the measurements you were wondering about.
Just so you know, most commercial clothing companies use something call "vanity sizing" where they take say, a size 18, and label it a 14 to make the buyer feel good and keep coming back to their brand. Yes, it true. That why is important weigh yourself as opposed to trying on clothes to find out if you lost weight.
Looking at these measurements it might help when buying your size. Hopefully this helps.
Ok so my analog tee is 17" across the bust, which when doubled is 34"
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
Ok so my analog tee is 17" across the bust, which when doubled is 34"
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
Ok so my analog tee is 17" across the bust, which when doubled is 34"
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
in a reality you are a 6!
I wish!
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
Ok so my analog tee is 17" across the bust, which when doubled is 34"
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
in a reality you are a 6!
I wish!
:oops: I read that wrong....I though you said you measured your bust size!! It's late here :oops: :oops:
In reality I am a 16, but that's cool with me...I am only a size bigger than Marilyn Monroe!
I received my analog exchange in the mail today, too.
I ordered XL b/c I am used to them running small also. This shirt is huge.
Chalk it up as another t-shirt to sleep in. Its not a cute enough design for me to bother with going down another size.
Just know, I am 5'9" and 36 D and the analog XL is too big. That may help you others who have to order. Also, its a spongebob box.
and thats so weird to me, because i am 5'6", 38 C...which should mean if the XL was too big for you, it should have been about right for me, i would think. i wonder if they changed t-shirt brands along the way, between when i got my original XL...and when you got your replacement, and my 2xl replacement?
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Ok so my analog tee is 17" across the bust, which when doubled is 34"
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
Is yours definitely a Ladies? Mine says Ladies S on the tag and is 17" across the bust.
T is too square though so I'm only using it as pjs
So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
Mine didn't say Ladies, just said x-Large. I still swear it was a kids tee.
But they sent me the measurements for the Analog tees and it says WXL is 17" across. Going by the size chart Shimmy posted, that would make the sz WXL tee a womens sz 6. I just want to know how a sz 6 is an XL?
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
my wife has an XL Avocado worn once. XL wont fit her because in real sizes its a small or something.
Yep that is the problem.
I wear a womens Medium or Large in real womens sizes. In some womens PJ tees, I can't fit in a XXL! :(
They have that Limited Quantity T-shirt sale in the Goods, and the Women's Avocado XL was only $12, so I was like, sure, why not?
It came, I tried to try it on and I couldn't even get it over my head...that thing wouldn't even fit my 10 year old niece, it's so small!! XL my butt! I'm a size 12, it's not like I'm that big! :x
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my wife has an XL Avocado worn once. XL wont fit her because in real sizes its a small or something.
Yep that is the problem.
I wear a womens Medium or Large in real womens sizes. In some womens PJ tees, I can't fit in a XXL! :(
They have that Limited Quantity T-shirt sale in the Goods, and the Women's Avocado XL was only $12, so I was like, sure, why not?
It came, I tried to try it on and I couldn't even get it over my head...that thing wouldn't even fit my 10 year old niece, it's so small!! XL my butt! I'm a size 12, it's not like I'm that big! :x
yup same situation. Must be marketing to the younger crowd. Anyone that eats Avocados couldn't fit that shirt LoL.
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At Alpine, I bought my sons t.shirts. My eldest (9) got a kids size medium. They were out of other kids sizes for my 7 year old so I bought him a women's size small. Here is my 7 year old with the perfect fit t.shirt....I cannot think of a woman I know who could fit into this!!!
The shirts are just cut to a traditional junior size.... Which is the issue we are not juniors.
I am a 6 and I wear a large or an XL in most ladies Pearl Jam shirts. If I go to a jr dept I almost always wear a large. If I go to the "ladies" section I will wear a 4/6 in a blouse or a medium in a top. Working in the past as a fit model I do have a decent understand of clothing.... Might not be great at sewing it. Envy you for having those skills
What I was getting at by " what is a real woman's large or XL" is that clothing lines can vary cuts so much especially if you are dealing with junior and ladies cuts so what one person considers a large another may not as it would be too big or too small.....that is the difficult task at hand I think.
Love my PJ shirts and hoodie ...excited to see the new zombie shirt....and have faith the best shirts are only yet to come for the ladies
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At Alpine, I bought my sons t.shirts. My eldest (9) got a kids size medium. They were out of other kids sizes for my 7 year old so I bought him a women's size small. Here is my 7 year old with the perfect fit t.shirt....I cannot think of a woman I know who could fit into this!!!
What a cutie,
and what a SMALL tshirt!
Its almost comical.
I will measure my analog t and post in a bit
And that is so weird because here are the measurements 10C sent to me. These are for the Analog tee.
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
So according to this size chart mine was an XL :(
I wonder why yours measures so much bigger but is labeled an XL?
And mine didn't say ladies, just x-large.
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And that is so weird because here are the measurements 10C sent to me. These are for the Analog tee.
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
So according to this size chart mine was an XL :(
I wonder why yours measures so much bigger but is labeled an XL?
And mine didn't say ladies, just x-large.
Sounds like they went back to the cut of the 08 tour shirt....
Personally for me love the design but HATE the shirt because it lacks shape! :evil:
“This is a ah another request fulfillment. If none of the other of you like it at least one guy does. Actually it’s a girl, she’s right back there.”
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
And that is so weird because here are the measurements 10C sent to me. These are for the Analog tee.
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
So according to this size chart mine was an XL :(
I wonder why yours measures so much bigger but is labeled an XL?
And mine didn't say ladies, just x-large.
Sounds like they went back to the cut of the 08 tour shirt....
Personally for me love the design but HATE the shirt because it lacks shape! :evil:
LOL an XL here measures 23" and this is why we have the consistence in sizes issue. They don't always post the measurements. And like several have posted here the WXL Analog tee can measure anywhere from 17" across to 23" across. That a 6" difference or an extra 12" difference all the way around!
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
And that is so weird because here are the measurements 10C sent to me. These are for the Analog tee.
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
So according to this size chart mine was an XL :(
I wonder why yours measures so much bigger but is labeled an XL?
And mine didn't say ladies, just x-large.
Sounds like they went back to the cut of the 08 tour shirt....
Personally for me love the design but HATE the shirt because it lacks shape! :evil:
LOL an XL here measures 23" and this is why we have the consistence in sizes issue. They don't always post the measurements. And like several have posted here the WXL Analog tee can measure anywhere from 17" across to 23" across. That a 6" difference or an extra 12" difference all the way around!
Well it sounds and seems like they are really trying to correct this issue for us.
We do know the original analog shirts ran small... We have those mesurements and they did not have any indication of being a ladies on the tag. But you could clearly tell by mine it is a ladies shirt no mistaking that.
Recent shirts seem larger much larger and are said to be marked. A new larger ladies shirt would be a shirt most likely available to them by the same brand.... Just makes sense...can't completely change things at this point with the analog.
I really give them credit for trying and quickly. Us ladies are not easy creatures to please so baby steps with this. I appreciate the effort and the hard work!
Hopefully in the future measurements will be listed, which 10C does seem to be good about doing recently.
Until then we will just stick together to crack the size codes when needed.
“This is a ah another request fulfillment. If none of the other of you like it at least one guy does. Actually it’s a girl, she’s right back there.”
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
So there's where the problem is. These ladies shirts are being made to Misses/Junior sizes. Not Women's. 10C should also post a standard size chart, so we all, men and women, can find out exactly what our real sizes are and buy accordingly. 10C would make a lot more money on tees that way. Seriously.
On that note, I don't usually buy any shirts online, as I can't try them on, or hold them across myself to gauge the fit. I got the Analog tee thinking it would fit in a large...thinking the measurements were in women's not misses. Next time, it will definitely be a Men's medium (if they don't fix the sizing issues).
I have another suggestion to add. Now as much as I love the organic cotton, and reason for using it, it's really thick. They should offer a poly/cotton blend, which tend not to shrink, fade or discolour. That material tends to hold up better over the years, have a little bit of give, and it is really, really soft. When I find a tee that feels like that, I do buy two or three of them. If I could get PJ shirts that have all of those qualities, plus the correct sizing, I think I would be a walking billboard for PJ.
Also that material mix would be a less expensive, so a wider range of fans can buy tees, opening it up to everyone.
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To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
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FitPearl, if they were cut in the proper Women's measurements there would be curves in the shirt, as a women's measurements accommodates bust, waist, hip and length due to the greater variances between each of those measurements. Misses' measurements usually go by the largest width, and longest length, hence the pillowcase shape.
Am I making sense or am I just confusing everyone? :?
A size chart would be nice but not sure that's an option when they seem to use several brands.
I'm ok with them just posting measurements.
As for that shirt.... I don't think it has anything to do with it being cut to measurements. I just simply think that was the design of the shirt. For whatever reason it was the shape they intended it to be.
IF I'm correct and they are using that same shirt for the analogs....that shirt shape is from 08 and it's 2011. Styles change.
Hopefully this info will just be helpful to those still to order a shirt.
Again I give 10C tons of credit for trying to correct this and give people a shirt that fits and they can wear.
They really care about us fans!
“This is a ah another request fulfillment. If none of the other of you like it at least one guy does. Actually it’s a girl, she’s right back there.”
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
My original complaint is mostly inconsistency.
When they send me an email telling the size of the Analog tee is
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
And some peoples measure 23" across, that is a huge inconsistency. I don't think they've changed them after people complained, I don't think there's been enough time for them to order new ones.
They're all the same brand, so that's not a inconsistency between brands. I completely think they had some that were kids sizes, mine did not say ladies in it.
Shimmy posted a US standard sizing chart and according to the my Analog tee was a sz 6. In my world a size 6 does not equal an XL.
And I'm not aiming this at you bionicamy , just venting about it. Sadly it's not just the Analog tee, it's everry single PJ tee that I have. :(
I do have faith that in the future they'll try to help us out.
I just got my Analog replacement in the mail. I ordered a mens. Even by the size chart they sent me a 2XL would have been tight across my boobs, and they have no stretch(the shirts, not my boobs
And now I've paid an extra $6.xx for my membership because I had to pay to send my original shirt back.
10C I do love you. You're always quick to reply to my phone calls and emails. And I realize in the scheme of life, this is minute, but if you would consider checking out if you could find a good supplier, we women would love you. Heck if we could get some shapely tees that show our curves, the guys would love it too.
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i think victoria's secret need to design the next women pj collection
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Question is what is a "real woman's size medium or large"?
That's what shirts can hopefully get to....
Where I need length in a shirt it sounds like many need room for the girls which is not an issue for me.
:oops:
Again my sympathy to the guy, cause in my mind it is a man, that has to figure this shirt situation out.
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
I keep saying they can offer me the job of PJ womens merch
Ok, I sew and have, on occasion, made clothes for myself. So here is your answer on sizing that best gives the measurements you were wondering about.
Just so you know, most commercial clothing companies use something call "vanity sizing" where they take say, a size 18, and label it a 14 to make the buyer feel good and keep coming back to their brand. Yes, it true. That why is important weigh yourself as opposed to trying on clothes to find out if you lost weight.
Looking at these measurements it might help when buying your size. Hopefully this helps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_standard_clothing_size
Going by this sizing chart it would be a size 6! Yeah in my world, that's not an XL :(
in a reality you are a 6!
:oops: I read that wrong....I though you said you measured your bust size!! It's late here :oops: :oops:
In reality I am a 16, but that's cool with me...I am only a size bigger than Marilyn Monroe!
and thats so weird to me, because i am 5'6", 38 C...which should mean if the XL was too big for you, it should have been about right for me, i would think. i wonder if they changed t-shirt brands along the way, between when i got my original XL...and when you got your replacement, and my 2xl replacement?
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Is yours definitely a Ladies? Mine says Ladies S on the tag and is 17" across the bust.
T is too square though so I'm only using it as pjs
But they sent me the measurements for the Analog tees and it says WXL is 17" across. Going by the size chart Shimmy posted, that would make the sz WXL tee a womens sz 6. I just want to know how a sz 6 is an XL?
They have that Limited Quantity T-shirt sale in the Goods, and the Women's Avocado XL was only $12, so I was like, sure, why not?
It came, I tried to try it on and I couldn't even get it over my head...that thing wouldn't even fit my 10 year old niece, it's so small!! XL my butt! I'm a size 12, it's not like I'm that big! :x
yup same situation. Must be marketing to the younger crowd. Anyone that eats Avocados couldn't fit that shirt LoL.
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I am a 6 and I wear a large or an XL in most ladies Pearl Jam shirts. If I go to a jr dept I almost always wear a large. If I go to the "ladies" section I will wear a 4/6 in a blouse or a medium in a top. Working in the past as a fit model I do have a decent understand of clothing.... Might not be great at sewing it. Envy you for having those skills
What I was getting at by " what is a real woman's large or XL" is that clothing lines can vary cuts so much especially if you are dealing with junior and ladies cuts so what one person considers a large another may not as it would be too big or too small.....that is the difficult task at hand I think.
Love my PJ shirts and hoodie ...excited to see the new zombie shirt....and have faith the best shirts are only yet to come for the ladies
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
What a cutie,
and what a SMALL tshirt!
Its almost comical.
I will measure my analog t and post in a bit
So boxy, and not foxy.
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
So according to this size chart mine was an XL :(
I wonder why yours measures so much bigger but is labeled an XL?
And mine didn't say ladies, just x-large.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Sounds like they went back to the cut of the 08 tour shirt....
Personally for me love the design but HATE the shirt because it lacks shape! :evil:
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Check out the measurements in goods limited items
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Well it sounds and seems like they are really trying to correct this issue for us.
We do know the original analog shirts ran small... We have those mesurements and they did not have any indication of being a ladies on the tag. But you could clearly tell by mine it is a ladies shirt no mistaking that.
Recent shirts seem larger much larger and are said to be marked. A new larger ladies shirt would be a shirt most likely available to them by the same brand.... Just makes sense...can't completely change things at this point with the analog.
I really give them credit for trying and quickly. Us ladies are not easy creatures to please so baby steps with this.
Hopefully in the future measurements will be listed, which 10C does seem to be good about doing recently.
Until then we will just stick together to crack the size codes when needed.
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
On that note, I don't usually buy any shirts online, as I can't try them on, or hold them across myself to gauge the fit. I got the Analog tee thinking it would fit in a large...thinking the measurements were in women's not misses. Next time, it will definitely be a Men's medium (if they don't fix the sizing issues).
I have another suggestion to add. Now as much as I love the organic cotton, and reason for using it, it's really thick. They should offer a poly/cotton blend, which tend not to shrink, fade or discolour. That material tends to hold up better over the years, have a little bit of give, and it is really, really soft. When I find a tee that feels like that, I do buy two or three of them. If I could get PJ shirts that have all of those qualities, plus the correct sizing, I think I would be a walking billboard for PJ.
Also that material mix would be a less expensive, so a wider range of fans can buy tees, opening it up to everyone.
A womans fit wont be that square! it have curves!
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
Pearl Jam is the Boxer. We're just happy to be the bag -- Aaron Cunningham,Fanviews '98
FitPearl, if they were cut in the proper Women's measurements there would be curves in the shirt, as a women's measurements accommodates bust, waist, hip and length due to the greater variances between each of those measurements. Misses' measurements usually go by the largest width, and longest length, hence the pillowcase shape.
Am I making sense or am I just confusing everyone? :?
I'm ok with them just posting measurements.
As for that shirt.... I don't think it has anything to do with it being cut to measurements. I just simply think that was the design of the shirt. For whatever reason it was the shape they intended it to be.
IF I'm correct and they are using that same shirt for the analogs....that shirt shape is from 08 and it's 2011. Styles change.
Hopefully this info will just be helpful to those still to order a shirt.
Again I give 10C tons of credit for trying to correct this and give people a shirt that fits and they can wear.
They really care about us fans!
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
When they send me an email telling the size of the Analog tee is
WS – 15 x 24.5
WM – 16 x 24.5
WL – 16.5 x 24.5
WXL – 17 x 26.5
W2XL – 18.5 x 27
And some peoples measure 23" across, that is a huge inconsistency. I don't think they've changed them after people complained, I don't think there's been enough time for them to order new ones.
They're all the same brand, so that's not a inconsistency between brands. I completely think they had some that were kids sizes, mine did not say ladies in it.
Shimmy posted a US standard sizing chart and according to the my Analog tee was a sz 6. In my world a size 6 does not equal an XL.
And I'm not aiming this at you bionicamy
I do have faith that in the future they'll try to help us out.
I just got my Analog replacement in the mail. I ordered a mens. Even by the size chart they sent me a 2XL would have been tight across my boobs, and they have no stretch(the shirts, not my boobs
And now I've paid an extra $6.xx for my membership because I had to pay to send my original shirt back.
10C I do love you. You're always quick to reply to my phone calls and emails. And I realize in the scheme of life, this is minute, but if you would consider checking out if you could find a good supplier, we women would love you. Heck if we could get some shapely tees that show our curves, the guys would love it too.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Gosh reading back over my last post, I have about 8 million typos.
PJ lingerie??? You dirty boy