Chris Christie for President

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  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    inlet13 wrote:
    johnny america wrote:
    As an NJ firefighter, I love that Chris Christie and those of his ilk across the country have taken away our bargaining rights, made us pay more money for less benefits, and continued to not pay into our pension fund which we have never missed a payment into.

    Meanwhile, they refuse to raise taxes on the rich.

    Christie himself sees no problem in double-dipping and collecting a pension that he was vested in after one day.

    Welfare queens are still able to get more money for more babies.

    AC's STATE-RUN district is one of the most violent in the nation, and losing money even during a national economic upturn.

    And hey, Christie's administration costs more money than any previous governor's.




    Your move, America.

    Why is it that those employed by the government (teachers, firefighters, etc.) don't believe that they should have cutbacks during hard economic times? Have you looked at those in the private sector who are unemployed? Did they have cutbacks? Yes, so much so, that they lost their jobs! Just like the private sector, the government has to cut back in hard economic times. Christie was voted in to do what he did.

    Maybe you should read my entire post.
    I knew it all along, see?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    http://news.yahoo.com/christie-says-eco ... 43127.html

    SIMI VALLEY, Calif. (AP) — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie warned Tuesday that America's promise is being menaced from within, as a troubled U.S. economy, shaky leadership and political gridlock diminish the nation's ability to solve its problems.

    "At one time in our history, our greatness was a reflection of our country's innovation, our determination, our ingenuity," the Republican governor said in remarks prepared for a speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

    "When there was a crisis at home, we put aside parochialism and put the greater public interest first. And in our system, we did it through strong presidential leadership," he said.

    "Unfortunately, through our own domestic political conduct of late, we have failed to live up to our own tradition of exceptionalism. Today, our role and ability to affect change has been diminished because of our own problems and our inability to effectively deal with them," Christie added.

    The speech, to be given at a shrine to America's 40th president, comes on a three-day trip in which the governor is raising money for Republicans and networking with party rainmakers in several states.

    Christie has said he's not running for president next year, but his speech marks another sign of his rising status within the national GOP and will keep his name on vice-presidential lists.

    In remarks released by his office, the governor warned the U.S. will only be able to sustain its global leadership place with resources for defense and homeland security, but he questioned whether those funds will be available.

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    ok ... so, he kinda had me with:

    Unfortunately, through our own domestic political conduct of late, we have failed to live up to our own tradition of exceptionalism

    but then ... totally lost me with:

    the U.S. will only be able to sustain its global leadership place with resources for defense and homeland security,

    same old GOP ... curtailing to the military industrial complex ... so sad ...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    polaris_x wrote:
    same old GOP ... curtailing to the military industrial complex ... so sad ...

    The other phrase that gets me is : "U.S. will only be able to sustain its global leadership place". What does he mean by "leadership"? And to where or what are we supposedly leading the world?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    brianlux wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    same old GOP ... curtailing to the military industrial complex ... so sad ...

    The other phrase that gets me is : "U.S. will only be able to sustain its global leadership place". What does he mean by "leadership"? And to where or what are we supposedly leading the world?
    if you don't realize there is a US empire at this point there is no hope for you.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Commy wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    same old GOP ... curtailing to the military industrial complex ... so sad ...

    The other phrase that gets me is : "U.S. will only be able to sustain its global leadership place". What does he mean by "leadership"? And to where or what are we supposedly leading the world?
    if you don't realize there is a US empire at this point there is no hope for you.

    Oh believe me, I'm hugely aware of the U.S. empire. I'm also aware that it is on very shakey footing. But I'm not questioning how big or powerful we are, I'm questioning what is meant here by "leadership". I respectfully must say I think you misread my post. I think there is a big difference between "leadership" and "imperialism".

    As for "there is no hope for me", as Paul Westerberg put it, I'm only borderline hopeless. :mrgreen:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    there is no shaky footing. if it comes to trouble the US wins, given they spend more than the rest of the world combined on means of violence.,
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Commy wrote:
    there is no shaky footing. if it comes to trouble the US wins, given they spend more than the rest of the world combined on means of violence.,

    I agree that the U.S. does and will continue to use its power as long as possible. But I totally disagree that we are not on shakey footing. When peak oil, climate change and environmental degradation reach their inevitable apex, we will have a very difficult time maintaining a powerful presence over anyone including ourselves as a nation at large. I don't say this lightly.

    But again, what does this have to do with "leadership"? I'n not quite sure why you continue to respond to my post while side-stepping my point. No offense, but I'm moving on.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    brianlux wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    there is no shaky footing. if it comes to trouble the US wins, given they spend more than the rest of the world combined on means of violence.,

    I agree that the U.S. does and will continue to use its power as long as possible. But I totally disagree that we are not on shakey footing. When peak oil, climate change and environmental degradation reach their inevitable apex, we will have a very difficult time maintaining a powerful presence over anyone including ourselves as a nation at large. I don't say this lightly.

    But again, what does this have to do with "leadership"? I'n not quite sure why you continue to respond to my post while side-stepping my point. No offense, but I'm moving on.
    you ignore the the massive oil reserves in the US with that statement. when iraq is sucked dry we always have texas. or alaska.


    alright then. leadership. when you have over 100 countries in debt to you, you assume the mantle of leadership. debt is control.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Control ≠ leadership.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited September 2011
    Jon Stewart on how everyone wants the next candidate in line and how f'd up the GOP base is.

    Hilarious.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-26-2011/indecision-2012---the-great-right-hope---the-gop-finds-another-ideal-candidate
    Post edited by Smellyman on
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    brianlux wrote:
    Control ≠ leadership.
    it kinda does tho. does zimbabwe have a choice in whether or not its rugs get exported to the US?

    if control , and by default, leadership, isn't leading zimbabwe and the rest of the world, who is? who is leading these countries?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't think he wants to run.

    I reckon the only time you'll ever catch this Republican asshole running is between the door and the counter at a McDonalds.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Commy wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Control ≠ leadership.
    it kinda does tho. does zimbabwe have a choice in whether or not its rugs get exported to the US?

    if control , and by default, leadership, isn't leading zimbabwe and the rest of the world, who is? who is leading these countries?

    Yeah, in that sense I guess it does. I'm probably a little to naive or optomistic in saying this, but I think of leadership as being the responsibility to guide others on a safe and responsible course that moves people in a direction that is beneficial to both the people and the world they live on, both in the short and long term. Today there are few leaders like that anymore or anywhere including here in America.

    And from what I've read, I don't see Chris Christie as being that kind of leader. But I set a pretty high standard- like I say, there are few leaders (in that sense) anymore.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • edvedderrocks
    edvedderrocks Posts: 1,001
    I like Christie. New Jersey is so messed up...but I think he is doing a good job. I'd vote for him. Right now, he may be the only one that I would vote for.
    "I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me. Guaranteed."

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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,875
    America votes based on looks. Period

    That's why Perry/Romney have a chance(hair)

    Why do you think Cheney wasn't at the top of the ticket? Bush is a Ken doll compared to him

    Obama is young and energetic. Clinton was larger than life personality( little hefty, not Chris Christie fat)

    What do we always here before an election? Who'd you rather have a beer with

    We really don't care about policy, it's a beauty pageant at the end of the day

    Christie won't win.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    America votes based on looks. Period

    That's why Perry/Romney have a chance(hair)

    Why do you think Cheney wasn't at the top of the ticket? Bush is a Ken doll compared to him

    Obama is young and energetic. Clinton was larger than life personality( little hefty, not Chris Christie fat)

    What do we always here before an election? Who'd you rather have a beer with

    We really don't care about policy, it's a beauty pageant at the end of the day

    Christie won't win.
    I agree with you but he looks less like the 'unsavory politician' then the rest
    you mentioned.

    He might win cause he looks like an average working class Joe.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    why is it assumed he is a fastfood/junkfood lover just cause he is overweight?

    "S mairg a ni tarcuis air biadh," ("He who has contempt for food is a fool.")

    He might just like good food

    maybe a little good whiskey in moderation

    My kind of man :D
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    christie is officially OUT....

    http://news.yahoo.com/christie-now-not- ... 30790.html
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    :( too bad I wanted to get to know him better

    well there a guy who knows how to say no and what he wants in life
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Another one bites the dust.

    Roll on the next loser.

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