Chris Christie for President

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Wilds wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    Besides it matters not who holds that office... this we should see by now

    Agreed.


    Although Ron Paul would make that statement untrue.
    I would fear to be as hopeful as you ... fear the disappointment, fear the truth
    but there would be nothing I would hope more for than to believe just that.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I'm not sure Obama beats Romney.

    not sure how people are voting for a mormon ...

    either way - you agree he beats Perry? ... or at the very least has a reasonable chance?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I'm not sure Obama beats Romney.

    not sure how people are voting for a mormon ...

    either way - you agree he beats Perry? ... or at the very least has a reasonable chance?


    I think Obama would soundly defeat Perry.

    And by the way, the first time I read your post, I thought you called Romney a "moron" not a "mormon". :lol:

    I believe that with the economy the way it is, Mitt would beat Obama in a general election (and I think he'd be a better president too ;))
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I think Obama would soundly defeat Perry.

    And by the way, the first time I read your post, I thought you called Romney a "moron" not a "mormon". :lol:

    I believe that with the economy the way it is, Mitt would beat Obama in a general election (and I think he'd be a better president too ;))

    well ... the problem isn't who sits in the oval office ...

    either way - it will be interesting to see if the tea party continues to take the republican party into some abyss ...
  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    As an NJ firefighter, I love that Chris Christie and those of his ilk across the country have taken away our bargaining rights, made us pay more money for less benefits, and continued to not pay into our pension fund which we have never missed a payment into.

    Meanwhile, they refuse to raise taxes on the rich.

    Christie himself sees no problem in double-dipping and collecting a pension that he was vested in after one day.

    Welfare queens are still able to get more money for more babies.

    AC's STATE-RUN district is one of the most violent in the nation, and losing money even during a national economic upturn.

    And hey, Christie's administration costs more money than any previous governor's.




    Your move, America.
    I knew it all along, see?
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    cincybearcat wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I'm not sure Obama beats Romney.

    not sure how people are voting for a mormon ...

    either way - you agree he beats Perry? ... or at the very least has a reasonable chance?


    I think Obama would soundly defeat Perry.

    And by the way, the first time I read your post, I thought you called Romney a "moron" not a "mormon". :lol:

    I believe that with the economy the way it is, Mitt would beat Obama in a general election (and I think he'd be a better president too ;))

    I think Romney has the only shot of a current GOP candidate beating Obama. I just wonder how much of the republican base and their ferver goes away if he's their nominee.
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • Tom K
    Tom K Posts: 842
    usamamasan1 wrote:

    Let me tell you how this works. This ones on the house ok. I will be brief and keep it simple.

    The Republicans do not yet know who is going to be on the ticket to take out the current occupant. I am interested in all of them and when one rises to the top I will be on his nutsack like a homosexual. Trump, Perry, Romney, Cain, Christie. Get it? Didn't think so. This is about ANYONE to take that son of a bitch out of office. Clear?

    "Nutsack like a homosexual" -- seriously??
    "Get it? Didn't think so."-- seriously??
    "that son of a bitch"-- seriously??


    This is typical republican obnoxiousness that is pushing people who are moderate and Independent towards the left and towards the democrats. The tone of the Tea Party, read Republican Party, is going to lose more votes than gain them. I wish that every time a person who has these fanatical right wing opinions was going to say something, they pulled out a mini-recorder, whispered their statements into said recorder, and played them back 2 minutes later. Then they can say "Holy shit, I sound like a maniac" and erased their idea. The recorder idea actually might raise the level of debate to something less myopic and at least somewhat tolerable.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    We have people with colorful language with the right to speak it

    this is America! :D
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    johnny america wrote:
    As an NJ firefighter, I love that Chris Christie and those of his ilk across the country have taken away our bargaining rights, made us pay more money for less benefits, and continued to not pay into our pension fund which we have never missed a payment into.

    Meanwhile, they refuse to raise taxes on the rich.

    Christie himself sees no problem in double-dipping and collecting a pension that he was vested in after one day.

    Welfare queens are still able to get more money for more babies.

    AC's STATE-RUN district is one of the most violent in the nation, and losing money even during a national economic upturn.

    And hey, Christie's administration costs more money than any previous governor's.




    Your move, America.

    Why is it that those employed by the government (teachers, firefighters, etc.) don't believe that they should have cutbacks during hard economic times? Have you looked at those in the private sector who are unemployed? Did they have cutbacks? Yes, so much so, that they lost their jobs! Just like the private sector, the government has to cut back in hard economic times. Christie was voted in to do what he did.
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    ^^^^Huh?
    My husband happens to be a public school teacher and has taken cuts and accepted it so don't go making those ridiculous sweeping comments, please.
    Thank you.
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    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    inlet13 wrote:
    johnny america wrote:
    As an NJ firefighter, I love that Chris Christie and those of his ilk across the country have taken away our bargaining rights, made us pay more money for less benefits, and continued to not pay into our pension fund which we have never missed a payment into.

    Meanwhile, they refuse to raise taxes on the rich.

    Christie himself sees no problem in double-dipping and collecting a pension that he was vested in after one day.

    Welfare queens are still able to get more money for more babies.

    AC's STATE-RUN district is one of the most violent in the nation, and losing money even during a national economic upturn.

    And hey, Christie's administration costs more money than any previous governor's.




    Your move, America.

    Why is it that those employed by the government (teachers, firefighters, etc.) don't believe that they should have cutbacks during hard economic times? Have you looked at those in the private sector who are unemployed? Did they have cutbacks? Yes, so much so, that they lost their jobs! Just like the private sector, the government has to cut back in hard economic times. Christie was voted in to do what he did.

    That statement would at least have some merit if all of those employed by the government were subject to cutbacks as well. It's always the work and file employees that get nickeled and dimed with cutbacks, while the ones from the middle up feel no pain. Shared sacrifice is a great sounding political buzzword, but the sharing stops once you get to a certain pay grade.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Lizard wrote:
    ^^^^Huh?
    My husband happens to be a public school teacher and has taken cuts and accepted it so don't go making those ridiculous sweeping comments, please.
    Thank you.


    That's fantastic.

    All I know is I see a ridiculous amount of "sense of entitlement" from certain government employees, particularly through unions. I see it on TV all the time (particularly in NJ, WI and IN recently) and hear about it from friends and family.

    Also, on another note, I find it particularly ridiculous that any grade school or high school public school teachers with maybe a Masters ... get paid almost twice what an average college professors PhD's salary.... That should never happen. It's completely 100% ass-backwards.

    Yet, then you have these idiots marching for more rights (pension/money/etc.). To them, I say "F you". Some of you don't even deserve what "rights" your getting now.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    inlet13 wrote:
    johnny america wrote:
    As an NJ firefighter, I love that Chris Christie and those of his ilk across the country have taken away our bargaining rights, made us pay more money for less benefits, and continued to not pay into our pension fund which we have never missed a payment into.

    Meanwhile, they refuse to raise taxes on the rich.

    Christie himself sees no problem in double-dipping and collecting a pension that he was vested in after one day.

    Welfare queens are still able to get more money for more babies.

    AC's STATE-RUN district is one of the most violent in the nation, and losing money even during a national economic upturn.

    And hey, Christie's administration costs more money than any previous governor's.




    Your move, America.

    Why is it that those employed by the government (teachers, firefighters, etc.) don't believe that they should have cutbacks during hard economic times? Have you looked at those in the private sector who are unemployed? Did they have cutbacks? Yes, so much so, that they lost their jobs! Just like the private sector, the government has to cut back in hard economic times. Christie was voted in to do what he did.
    Can the congressmen/women/senators take a cut.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    edited September 2011
    blackredyellow wrote:


    That statement would at least have some merit if all of those employed by the government were subject to cutbacks as well. It's always the work and file employees that get nickeled and dimed with cutbacks, while the ones from the middle up feel no pain. Shared sacrifice is a great sounding political buzzword, but the sharing stops once you get to a certain pay grade.

    I'm fine with equal cutbacks. That's not the point. Just cut something, and when the government does cut something (not even jobs just benefits), don't put on some "poor me" campaign. Look at your private sector brothers and sisters and how their out of work before you do. Then also think about the fact that they have been paying for your job to exist.

    So, my point is simple. We pay them. We're their employer. we have a right to say we want them to cut their spending. It's our money, after all.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Can the congressmen/women/senators take a cut.

    I hope so.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Tom K wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:

    Let me tell you how this works. This ones on the house ok. I will be brief and keep it simple.

    The Republicans do not yet know who is going to be on the ticket to take out the current occupant. I am interested in all of them and when one rises to the top I will be on his nutsack like a homosexual. Trump, Perry, Romney, Cain, Christie. Get it? Didn't think so. This is about ANYONE to take that son of a bitch out of office. Clear?

    "Nutsack like a homosexual" -- seriously??
    "Get it? Didn't think so."-- seriously??
    "that son of a bitch"-- seriously??


    This is typical republican obnoxiousness that is pushing people who are moderate and Independent towards the left and towards the democrats. The tone of the Tea Party, read Republican Party, is going to lose more votes than gain them. I wish that every time a person who has these fanatical right wing opinions was going to say something, they pulled out a mini-recorder, whispered their statements into said recorder, and played them back 2 minutes later. Then they can say "Holy shit, I sound like a maniac" and erased their idea. The recorder idea actually might raise the level of debate to something less myopic and at least somewhat tolerable.

    "typical republican obnoxiousness" -- seriously??
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Did usamammasan actually say he'd vote for Donald Trump for president?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Did usamammasan actually say he'd vote for Donald Trump for president?

    You have to consider the person he'd be running against.

    I'd consider voting for the lunch lady if she ran against the current occupant of the White House.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    cincybearcat wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Did usamammasan actually say he'd vote for Donald Trump for president?

    You have to consider the person he'd be running against.

    I'd consider voting for the lunch lady if she ran against the current occupant of the White House.
    Donald Trump is just an absolute idiot. I'd probably vote GWB over Trump.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Did usamammasan actually say he'd vote for Donald Trump for president?
    you don't remember all of the threads he started talking about how trump is what america needs? it was trump before it was perry and before it was christie lol..
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