Pearl Jam and Politics next year

crazygeo
crazygeo Posts: 2,380
edited February 2012 in The Porch
Do you think Eddie will get behind "The Obama" 2nd term run? I do believe he has backed the Democratic ticket, as he hated Bush (leaguer)....You can't help to think about this on any given sunday morning with all the political shows on T.V.

I don't believe that anyone in office has a clear shot of turning this country around anytime soon. It seems that there is "no middle anymore" and everything is either left and right, while I sit in the "middle" on MOST issues.

Besides the point that worldwide there are so many issues. What about those of you not living in the United States, how is your economy treating you these days?

Wonder if the next Pearl jam album will have any political influence? I AM MINE!!!!

Romney -vs- Obama....who will win? (As Perry is too far out there)
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    Don't discount Ron Paul.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    quimby20 wrote:
    Don't discount Ron Paul.

    No. It's safe to discount Ron Paul.
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  • crazygeo
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    Ron is cool, but not a shot at this point today....sorry

    Legalize it...he would and stop wasting money on this issue, as we do in America. Ever read your local police blogs, I swear half of them are about small time busts. What a waste....just an opinion....
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    crazygeo wrote:
    Ron is cool, but not a shot at this point today....sorry

    Legalize it...he would and stop wasting money on this issue, as we do in America. Ever read your local police blogs, I swear half of them are about small time busts. What a waste....just an opinion....

    Actually my son just had to plead guilty to a possession charge for some residue and a pipe. Not his, thrown under his seat by his ex best buddy. He threw my kid under the bus. But.... they got a drug bust under their belt.
  • crazygeo
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    My point exactly. Now this will follow him forever if he is over 18 or even not. I don't party, but this is one of the issues out there that doesn't make sense to me....

    I see many people get thrown under the bus while other issues such as molestors etc. seem to get away with things. And don't get me started on OJ, Florida child killer and some of the other shit that goes on in this world. Unfortunately, being at the wrong place at the right time sucks for some.....while others walk free. Just remember, "every dog has their day" No Mike Vick pun here either!!!!!
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  • thefin190
    thefin190 Posts: 918
    I believe that just like Republicans used gay marriage as a wedge issue in 2004, Democrats could effectively used legalizing marijuana as a wedge issue for them. I believe polling shows that almost a majority would support legalizing it, and I'm sure in several swing states that they would have a majority supporting it.
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    crazygeo wrote:
    My point exactly. Now this will follow him forever if he is over 18 or even not. I don't party, but this is one of the issues out there that doesn't make sense to me....

    I see many people get thrown under the bus while other issues such as molestors etc. seem to get away with things. And don't get me started on OJ, Florida child killer and some of the other shit that goes on in this world. Unfortunately, being at the wrong place at the right time sucks for some.....while others walk free. Just remember, "every dog has their day" No Mike Vick pun here either!!!!!


    In Michigan he got what is known as a 7411, After a year of probation and a restricted license it drops off his record. They really played hardball. Piece of advise, never use a court appointed Lawyer.
  • crazygeo
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    Good luck...something as stupid as that could really screw up a kid...

    shit like this article below even take a kids life away...that judge should be strung up by the sack.....crooked judge puts kid in jail

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/1166389 ... judge.html

    As he was leaving court in Scranton, Ciavarella was confronted by Sandy Fonzo, whose son, Edward Kenzakoski, killed himself last year after the judge's decision to put him away for a minor drug offense sent the boy's life spiraling out of control.

    "My kid's not here anymore. He's dead! Because of him!" Fonzo shouted at the judge and his lawyer as they talked to reporters on the courthouse steps.

    "He ruined my [expletive] life! I'd like him to go to hell and rot there forever!" she shouted.
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  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    quimby20 wrote:
    Don't discount Ron Paul.

    Ron Paul is the best thing that could happen to this country in generations..it is too bad the media ignores him..believe me, they are not ignoring him for a reason.. I think he is one election away and by than he will be too old, unfortunately..the guy has been predicting what will happen to our country for the past 40 yrs..our country is too dumb to pay attention though
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    crazygeo wrote:
    I don't believe that anyone in office has a clear shot of turning this country around anytime soon. It seems that there is "no middle anymore" and everything is either left and right, while I sit in the "middle" on MOST issues.

    Two things, before this thread gets moved:

    1) Obama's policies are pretty darn conservative, when you look at what actually has been enacted. The right keeps trying to paint him as a tax and spend socialist, but reality and rhetoric are two different things.

    2) If you consider yourself a moderate, take a hard look at Huntsman. He's a smart guy, a "real" conservative (not neo-con), pretty moderate on most things, and is the GOP candidate acting most like an adult. I read a profile of him in, I think, Vanity Fair; his demeanor is quite similar to Obama's, and he's the candidate who scares Obama's team the most, since he is most likely to pull moderates to his side.
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  • Drop The Leash 10
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    curmudgeoness wrote:
    crazygeo wrote:
    I don't believe that anyone in office has a clear shot of turning this country around anytime soon. It seems that there is "no middle anymore" and everything is either left and right, while I sit in the "middle" on MOST issues.

    Two things, before this thread gets moved:

    1) Obama's policies are pretty darn conservative, when you look at what actually has been enacted. The right keeps trying to paint him as a tax and spend socialist, but reality and rhetoric are two different things.

    2) If you consider yourself a moderate, take a hard look at Huntsman. He's a smart guy, a "real" conservative (not neo-con), pretty moderate on most things, and is the GOP candidate acting most like an adult. I read a profile of him in, I think, Vanity Fair; his demeanor is quite similar to Obama's, and he's the candidate who scares Obama's team the most, since he is most likely to pull moderates to his side.
    I'm all for Huntsman.
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  • dawitchdoc
    dawitchdoc Posts: 59
    When I go to a show, the last thing I want is to feel like I'm at a political rally !
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    dawitchdoc wrote:
    When I go to a show, the last thing I want is to feel like I'm at a political rally !


    Just saw Tom Morello in Flint Michigan last week, and that is all it was. I have no problem with Unions but I didn't want to be a meeting....
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    quimby20 wrote:

    Just saw Tom Morello in Flint Michigan last week, and that is all it was. I have no problem with Unions but I didn't want to be a meeting....

    Tom Morello did a show in FLINT?!?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:

    ::faints dead away from the shock::
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    curmudgeoness wrote:
    quimby20 wrote:

    Just saw Tom Morello in Flint Michigan last week, and that is all it was. I have no problem with Unions but I didn't want to be a meeting....

    Tom Morello did a show in FLINT?!?!? :shock: :shock: :shock:

    ::faints dead away from the shock::


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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Wow.

    That's a huuuuge improvement over April Wine and Ready for the World and Donnie Brewer's latest whatever. Kudos to whomever made that happen!

    [And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.]
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  • bicyclejoe
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    crazygeo wrote:
    Do you think Eddie will get behind "The Obama" 2nd term run? I do believe he has backed the Democratic ticket, as he hated Bush (leaguer)....You can't help to think about this on any given sunday morning with all the political shows on T.V.

    I don't believe that anyone in office has a clear shot of turning this country around anytime soon. It seems that there is "no middle anymore" and everything is either left and right, while I sit in the "middle" on MOST issues.

    Besides the point that worldwide there are so many issues. What about those of you not living in the United States, how is your economy treating you these days?

    Wonder if the next Pearl jam album will have any political influence? I AM MINE!!!!

    Romney -vs- Obama....who will win? (As Perry is too far out there)

    Of course, there's a middle. The GOP has shifted so far to the right that Obama has to govern from the middle. I'll vote for Obama again, despite my disappointment in his leadership during his first term. I don't see any of the current Republicans in the running beating Obama.

    Draconian libertarianism is not the solution (and it wouldn't get past an election when it came time to actually govern), especially as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    crazygeo wrote:
    Do you think Eddie will get behind "The Obama" 2nd term run? I do believe he has backed the Democratic ticket, as he hated Bush (leaguer)....You can't help to think about this on any given sunday morning with all the political shows on T.V.

    I don't believe that anyone in office has a clear shot of turning this country around anytime soon. It seems that there is "no middle anymore" and everything is either left and right, while I sit in the "middle" on MOST issues.

    Besides the point that worldwide there are so many issues. What about those of you not living in the United States, how is your economy treating you these days?

    Wonder if the next Pearl jam album will have any political influence? I AM MINE!!!!

    Romney -vs- Obama....who will win? (As Perry is too far out there)

    At the av shows this topic of discussion came up, some were surprised that the political stuff was left out of both showws. Given how outspoken the band was re bush and their support for human rights, the environment, peace and especially truth and transparency we concluded that there is no way they could support Obama unless they are total hypocrites. Consensus was that they will probably remain status quo = silent.
  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    crazygeo wrote:
    Good luck...something as stupid as that could really screw up a kid...

    shit like this article below even take a kids life away...that judge should be strung up by the sack.....crooked judge puts kid in jail

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/1166389 ... judge.html

    As he was leaving court in Scranton, Ciavarella was confronted by Sandy Fonzo, whose son, Edward Kenzakoski, killed himself last year after the judge's decision to put him away for a minor drug offense sent the boy's life spiraling out of control.

    "My kid's not here anymore. He's dead! Because of him!" Fonzo shouted at the judge and his lawyer as they talked to reporters on the courthouse steps.

    "He ruined my [expletive] life! I'd like him to go to hell and rot there forever!" she shouted.

    What a scum bag

    Im kinda glad their last album wasn't political and nor is Ole. I hate politics TBH. Cant stand that crap. Who knows, maybe they haven't been political because their team isn't winning. When the republicans do bad next time, they'll probably get political again. stupid politics :roll:
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  • crazygeo
    crazygeo Posts: 2,380
    Obama wins in 2012?
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