9/11 - What The Bush Administration Knew

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,123
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    This country is in the worst shape it's ever been.

    uh no it's not and it's not really even close. it's not great today but it isn't close to worse than it's ever been. hyperbole like this does no good.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k I read the whole story....I'm calling bullshit my friend but keep digging.

    Godfather.

    You're calling bullshit? You're calling bullshit on what? The Bush administration were in posession of a document entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” which contained the following information:


    Al Qaeda, it said, had active cells in the US that were planning attacks. It mentioned the existence of such cells in California and New York. It said the FBI had collected information since 1998 indicating “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.” (Our emphasis).

    The document also referred to the World Trade Center bombing of 1993 in connection with a statement by bin Laden that he wanted to follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bring the fighting to America.” It further said that the foiled Al Qaeda plot to bomb the airport in Los Angeles during the millennium celebrations of December-January 2000 “may have been part of bin Laden’s first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US.” It cited statements from convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam to the FBI that bin Laden was aware of the plot and that a top bin Laden lieutenant helped facilitate it. (This history, it should be noted, was anything but remote, since the aborted attack on Los Angeles occurred only twenty months prior to the August 6, 2001 briefing).
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ? WAIT ! I know what...we should have closed our fuckin borders a loooong time ago and give shoot to kill orders at anybody trying to cross ilegally..ya think that may have stoped what happened on 9/11 ?..that would have eleminated
    the "sleeper cell" problem and the fuvkin nutz that came here with passprorts and took flight lessons.
    some of the people of the US want to kiss the worlds ass and open the door to everybody who wants in but when shit like this happens they blame the government for not using their crystal ball to stop these fuckin idiots.

    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ?

    The leads could have been investigated and those hijackers, whose details were known to the F.B.I, could have been apprehended.


    But then Halliburton and Exxon Mobil wouldn't be where they are today.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ?

    The leads could have been investigated and those hijackers, whose details were known to the F.B.I, could have been apprehended.
    .

    how many people think if that happened, this guy would have found a way to be on here complaining that the possible hijacker's civil liberties were violated?

    :lol:
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    The Juggler wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ?

    The leads could have been investigated and those hijackers, whose details were known to the F.B.I, could have been apprehended.
    .

    how many people think if that happened, this guy would have found a way to be on here complaining that the possible hijacker's civil liberties were violated?

    :lol:

    Not just this guy... a lot of people would have. Hence my earlier post.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    edited September 2011
    Godfather. wrote:
    o.k I read the whole story....I'm calling bullshit my friend but keep digging.

    Godfather.

    Godfather. wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You're calling bullshit? You're calling bullshit on what? The Bush administration were in posession of a document entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” which contained the following information:


    Al Qaeda, it said, had active cells in the US that were planning attacks. It mentioned the existence of such cells in California and New York. It said the FBI had collected information since 1998 indicating “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.” (Our emphasis).

    The document also referred to the World Trade Center bombing of 1993 in connection with a statement by bin Laden that he wanted to follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bring the fighting to America.” It further said that the foiled Al Qaeda plot to bomb the airport in Los Angeles during the millennium celebrations of December-January 2000 “may have been part of bin Laden’s first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US.” It cited statements from convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam to the FBI that bin Laden was aware of the plot and that a top bin Laden lieutenant helped facilitate it. (This history, it should be noted, was anything but remote, since the aborted attack on Los Angeles occurred only twenty months prior to the August 6, 2001 briefing).
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ? WAIT ! I know what...we should have closed our fuckin borders a loooong time ago and give shoot to kill orders at anybody trying to cross ilegally..ya think that may have stoped what happened on 9/11 ?..that would have eleminated
    the "sleeper cell" problem and the fuvkin nutz that came here with passprorts and took flight lessons.
    some of the people of the US want to kiss the worlds ass and open the door to everybody who wants in but when shit like this happens they blame the government for not using their crystal ball to stop these fuckin idiots.

    Godfather.

    60 Minutes 9/11/11

    I like what this gentleman FBI agent Ali Soufan had to say about the state of US security before 9/11 and who knew what.

    The Interrogator Part I & II

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Cosmo wrote:
    The information was out there... it was either misread, misinterpreted or ignored.
    Here, check this out... it is a documentary on U.S. Intelligence pre-9/11 and spans across both the Clinton and Bush Administrations:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

    Downloaded and cued up to watch tomorrow.
  • DragonsAfter3or4
    DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 349
    The Juggler wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ?

    The leads could have been investigated and those hijackers, whose details were known to the F.B.I, could have been apprehended.
    .

    how many people think if that happened, this guy would have found a way to be on here complaining that the possible hijacker's civil liberties were violated?

    :lol:
    :lol: ^ That shit was funny!
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    The Juggler wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    other than nuke the countrys of these people before 9/11 what should have been done ?

    The leads could have been investigated and those hijackers, whose details were known to the F.B.I, could have been apprehended.
    .

    how many people think if that happened, this guy would have found a way to be on here complaining that the possible hijacker's civil liberties were violated?

    :lol:

    hijacker's civil liberties were violated......only on the train :lol::lol:

    Byrnzie......investigated and apprehended ?....Right !, think just for a moment of everything envolved with that and the amount of ass wipes eager to die so they can have a few virgins after death.

    Godfather.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Byrnzie, I find it hard to believe the Bush administration would murder almost 3000 people to make money from oil.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Byrnzie, I find it hard to believe the Bush administration would murder almost 3000 people to make money from oil.
    :lol: this is the train Bro. a on-line equal to the National Enquier,we have more consperiesys than a Hollywood movie. :lol:
    everybody here likes to read between the lines. :o


    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    hijacker's civil liberties were violated......only on the train :lol::lol:

    Except nobody on the Train said that.

    You're all jacking off over a figment of someone's imagination.

    Weird. :problem:
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    hijacker's civil liberties were violated......only on the train :lol::lol:


    You're all jacking off over a figment of someone's imagination.


    seems like the norm to me... :D

    anyway, let's just leave this at people fucked up. Why is that hard to believe? People screwed up and the Attackers were well funded and very motivated. They wanted to bring down the towers. This isn't about hating freedom...This attack was about the actions of governments around the world, starting with our own. When you take sides you make enemies.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    hijacker's civil liberties were violated......only on the train :lol::lol:

    Except nobody on the Train said that.

    You're all jacking off over a figment of someone's imagination.

    Weird. :problem:

    :lol:

    Like I said previously though, if Patriot Act type surveillance had been in place, and these people had been apprehended prior to 9/1/01, I do wonder what the public's opinion of the tactics would be at that time. Heck, many are against it now. We'll never know, but I find it interesting to think about.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,605
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    hijacker's civil liberties were violated......only on the train :lol::lol:


    You're all jacking off over a figment of someone's imagination.


    seems like the norm to me... :D

    anyway, let's just leave this at people fucked up. Why is that hard to believe? People screwed up and the Attackers were well funded and very motivated. They wanted to bring down the towers. This isn't about hating freedom...This attack was about the actions of governments around the world, starting with our own. When you take sides you make enemies.
    Yes, remember it the Government saying they hate our freedom. Dont believe I've heard such a statement from those that would attack us or retaliate (depending on your perspective). In fact I would say the y LOVE our freedom. Leaves them room to move at will. At least here.
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  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Byrnzie, I find it hard to believe the Bush administration would murder almost 3000 people to make money from oil.

    They had no qualms about going abroad to murder that and many more in the Middle East for it...

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