A letter from a greatful immigrant

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Has anyone seen this on the History Channel on the demise of America and the rest of the world. Can and will we be able to sustain ourselves?

    Prophets of Doom - American Collapse part 1

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Our local news featured the mess going on with the new laws here...

    but it was awesome to see all the students on visas from around the world come out in favor
    of tougher laws.

    They have worked hard and continue to and don't feel anyone should be given a free ride
    to stay in the US without that hard work.

    It was really refreshing to see again an appreciation of hard work and what they have earned
    not wanting to be just given privilege because they crossed a boarder.

    Gave me hope for our country and our world.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pandora wrote:
    Our local news featured the mess going on with the new laws here...

    but it was awesome to see all the students on visas from around the world come out in favor
    of tougher laws.

    They have worked hard and continue to and don't feel anyone should be given a free ride
    to stay in the US without that hard work.

    It was really refreshing to see again an appreciation of hard work and what they have earned
    not wanting to be just given privilege because they crossed a boarder.

    Gave me hope for our country and our world.

    It gave you hope for America and the World that some foreign students (privileged individuals) protested against poor Mexicans coming into America to try and improve their lot in life, and the lives of their families?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:

    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
    O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
    In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
    'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
    Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:

    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
    O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
    In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
    'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
    Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


    Sorry mate, I'm tone deaf.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Godfather. wrote:
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
    .............

    land of the free...really?
    then why can't we smoke a fucking weed in this god damn place without hiding out, making mexico and canada billionaires because of grass smuggling? shit tons of green comes from the south and from the north, mostly from down yonder way.

    we are free? fuckin bullshit. and this being a minute piece to the massive crap load of shit and piss crammed down our throats by our bullshit leaders. if any of you supported gw and crew you should be forced into exile to remain for all eternity.

    get the fuck outta here :twisted: :evil: :twisted:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Byrnzie wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    you all know where I stand on immigration ....I think, but why is this guy's letter bullshit ?


    Godfather.
    Because it paints America in a positive light...any positive light...and this Byrnzie will not take sitting down! :twisted:

    More bollocks.

    The bollocks in this thread seems to be contagious.
    Perhaps our interpretations of the smiley-face-devil emoticon are different...thought it was clear I was exaggerating my opinion of your position. That said, if you think your history of 15k posts doesn't show a bias against the US, you really not being honest with yourself.
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
    .............

    land of the free...really?
    then why can't we smoke a fucking weed in this god damn place without hiding out, making mexico and canada billionaires because of grass smuggling? shit tons of green comes from the south and from the north, mostly from down yonder way.

    we are free? fuckin bullshit. and this being a minute piece to the massive crap load of shit and piss crammed down our throats by our bullshit leaders. if any of you supported gw and crew you should be forced into exile to remain for all eternity.

    get the fuck outta here :twisted: :evil: :twisted:
    It sounds like somebody missed his morning bowl...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MotoDC wrote:
    Perhaps our interpretations of the smiley-face-devil emoticon are different...thought it was clear I was exaggerating my opinion of your position. That said, if you think your history of 15k posts doesn't show a bias against the US, you really not being honest with yourself.

    That depends on what you mean by 'the U.S'.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Byrnzie wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Our local news featured the mess going on with the new laws here...

    but it was awesome to see all the students on visas from around the world come out in favor
    of tougher laws.

    They have worked hard and continue to and don't feel anyone should be given a free ride
    to stay in the US without that hard work.

    It was really refreshing to see again an appreciation of hard work and what they have earned
    not wanting to be just given privilege because they crossed a boarder.

    Gave me hope for our country and our world.

    It gave you hope for America and the World that some foreign students (privileged individuals) protested against poor Mexicans coming into America to try and improve their lot in life, and the lives of their families?

    yes it did it was positive for a change instead of gimme gimme :D
    and not so privileged either, that is an assumption and generalization.
    The students weren't protesting but being interviewed
    it was the illegal people protesting... putting down ultimatums that are all to common now.

    Showing they are filled with hate for this country if they don't get exactly what they want
    a country that has done so much for them

    they are not saying what can I do for this country that is not mine
    what can I do to help and to stay here legally... what can I learn

    no .... just what will the country... Americans give me

    how about learn our language... how about learn our history... how about not collect hand outs

    how about not tax Americans to the point they can not afford
    the same food that the illegal immigrants
    are fortunate enough to buy each week in the store... like fresh fruit.

    how about fix your own country? really fix your own 'cause they just about broke ours....
    them and greedy corporations

    I'm staying trying to stay positive and focusing on new laws that will bring change

    and hopefully we will have many grateful Americans in the future instead of the trend we have now
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pandora wrote:
    and not so privileged either, that is an assumption and generalization.

    No it isn't. Any student who is able to travel to a first-world country and receive a good education is privileged.

    pandora wrote:
    Showing they are filled with hate for this country if they don't get exactly what they want
    a country that has done so much for them


    It has nothing to do with anyone hating your country. They're protesting Jim Crow laws enacted by fear-mongering politicians that will see hard-working people who have done the jobs the whites won't do, and who have payed into the system for years, harassed and deported.

    pandora wrote:
    how about not tax Americans to the point they can not afford
    the same food that the illegal immigrants
    are fortunate enough to buy each week in the store... like fresh fruit.

    Care to elaborate?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
    .............

    land of the free...really?
    then why can't we smoke a fucking weed in this god damn place without hiding out, making mexico and canada billionaires because of grass smuggling? shit tons of green comes from the south and from the north, mostly from down yonder way.

    we are free? fuckin bullshit. and this being a minute piece to the massive crap load of shit and piss crammed down our throats by our bullshit leaders. if any of you supported gw and crew you should be forced into exile to remain for all eternity.

    get the fuck outta here :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

    well Chad maybe you don't understand the real meaning of the word freedom,if getting high is all you want out of this country with all the other things it has to offer I'd say you're cheating your self. ;)
    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,243
    i prefer frank drebin's version of the national anthem...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    MotoDC wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would you all like to join me in our countrys national anthem.....come on Byrnzie you too Brother :lol:
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
    .............

    land of the free...really?
    then why can't we smoke a fucking weed in this god damn place without hiding out, making mexico and canada billionaires because of grass smuggling? shit tons of green comes from the south and from the north, mostly from down yonder way.

    we are free? fuckin bullshit. and this being a minute piece to the massive crap load of shit and piss crammed down our throats by our bullshit leaders. if any of you supported gw and crew you should be forced into exile to remain for all eternity.

    get the fuck outta here :twisted: :evil: :twisted:
    It sounds like somebody missed his morning bowl...

    i dont need to smoke 24x7. i havent even thought about getting high yet. what my point was is that we americans are far from free.

    it doesn't hold water today like it may have back in the 50's or whenever.
    excuse me while i go watch the beaver kleaver family in black & white
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Godfather. wrote:
    well Chad maybe you don't understand the real meaning of the word freedom,if getting high is all you want out of this country with all the other things it has to offer I'd say you're cheating your self. ;)
    Godfather.
    now im ignorant or something? i don't understand the real meaning of freedom and all i want to do is smoke a weed. nice one godfather.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Byrnzie wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    and not so privileged either, that is an assumption and generalization.

    No it isn't. Any student who is able to travel to a first-world country and receive a good education is privileged.

    pandora wrote:
    Showing they are filled with hate for this country if they don't get exactly what they want
    a country that has done so much for them


    It has nothing to do with anyone hating your country. They're protesting Jim Crow laws enacted by fear-mongering politicians that will see hard-working people who have done the jobs the whites won't do, and who have payed into the system for years, harassed and deported.

    pandora wrote:
    how about not tax Americans to the point they can not afford
    the same food that the illegal immigrants
    are fortunate enough to buy each week in the store... like fresh fruit.

    Care to elaborate?

    can you elaborate on your Jim Crow laws comparison?
    I am interested. I don't see separate but equal anywhere.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well Chad maybe you don't understand the real meaning of the word freedom,if getting high is all you want out of this country with all the other things it has to offer I'd say you're cheating your self. ;)
    Godfather.
    now im ignorant or something? i don't understand the real meaning of freedom and all i want to do is smoke a weed. nice one godfather.
    well that and write some great poerty :D


    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i prefer frank drebin's version of the national anthem...
    is it anything like Jimi's version ? :D

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,243
    Godfather. wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i prefer frank drebin's version of the national anthem...
    is it anything like Jimi's version ? :D

    Godfather.
    no it's better than that.
    it was in the naked gun...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i prefer frank drebin's version of the national anthem...
    is it anything like Jimi's version ? :D

    Godfather.
    no it's better than that.
    it was in the naked gun...
    better than Jimi ??? :o
    I haven't seen naked gun.

    Godfather.

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