Main reason of why I became a member was because last time they came here I was on the regular line, waiting for hours! and suddenly saw these people with wristbands arriving half an hour before the show and entering the stadium before me, and I thought NEXT TIME I WANT THAT.
Main reason of why I became a member was because last time they came here I was on the regular line, waiting for hours! and suddenly saw these people with wristbands arriving half an hour before the show and entering the stadium before me, and I thought NEXT TIME I WANT THAT.
E A R L Y A C C E S S!
:( ..really 10c..try once more for those people..
I was one of those on 10C line. Some from the regular line hit me with a beer can.
But I could understand their frustration. I would be frustrated too. I know most of the members this time, became members because of what they saw in the last concert.
That's the may reason I am fighting hard on this one. I work for American people for 12 years now.
I've been to US over 20 times. I know how they work.
When they see the point from our eyes. They will understand it and make it happen.
I was thinking the other night and I come up with some stuff. We have 4 major complaints here:
1 - The concert will be divided in sectors and will not have a flat ticket price all over the place;
2 - The ticket prices are way high, really expensive;
3 - We will not have early access to the concert as 10c members;
4 - The pre-sale system is laughable and will not work;
Out of the 4 items. My demand would be for number 3. Early access. It's the easier to get right now in my opinion. I also would sugest them to make it available for one sector alone. A sector to be defined by the members.
I would add another point: a lower price for international membership or a new "3rd world" cheaper membership, if its bennefits aren't going to be the same as for other countries.
I was thinking the other night and I come up with some stuff. We have 4 major complaints here:
1 - The concert will be divided in sectors and will not have a flat ticket price all over the place;
2 - The ticket prices are way high, really expensive;
3 - We will not have early access to the concert as 10c members;
4 - The pre-sale system is laughable and will not work;
Out of the 4 items. My demand would be for number 3. Early access. It's the easier to get right now in my opinion. I also would sugest them to make it available for one sector alone. A sector to be defined by the members.
I would add another point: a lower price for international membership or a new "3rd world" cheaper membership, if its bennefits aren't going to be the same as for other countries.
One thing at a time. First let's solve the problem at hand. They enjoy ourselves in the concert.
If it doesn't turn out the way we think is fair, then we do something about it.
I was thinking the other night and I come up with some stuff. We have 4 major complaints here:
1 - The concert will be divided in sectors and will not have a flat ticket price all over the place;
2 - The ticket prices are way high, really expensive;
3 - We will not have early access to the concert as 10c members;
4 - The pre-sale system is laughable and will not work;
Out of the 4 items. My demand would be for number 3. Early access. It's the easier to get right now in my opinion. I also would sugest them to make it available for one sector alone. A sector to be defined by the members.
I would add another point: a lower price for international membership or a new "3rd world" cheaper membership, if its bennefits aren't going to be the same as for other countries.
i said that in the past as an idea...from the moment 10c tix is one of the benefits in membership,maybe your payment has to do with the shows in your country..i pay the same as a UK fan..they play in uk every euro tour and in my country played once in 20 years and dont see it happening again.. but life isnt fair in general..a membership in a rock fan club isnt a big problem,so whatever..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I was thinking the other night and I come up with some stuff. We have 4 major complaints here:
1 - The concert will be divided in sectors and will not have a flat ticket price all over the place;
2 - The ticket prices are way high, really expensive;
3 - We will not have early access to the concert as 10c members;
4 - The pre-sale system is laughable and will not work;
Out of the 4 items. My demand would be for number 3. Early access. It's the easier to get right now in my opinion. I also would sugest them to make it available for one sector alone. A sector to be defined by the members.
I would add another point: a lower price for international membership or a new "3rd world" cheaper membership, if its bennefits aren't going to be the same as for other countries.
I have to disagree!!
Don't subestimate yourself and your country!!! Come on!!! Optimism, my friend!!! I work every single day to make my country richer... Brazil's main problem is the politician's corruption, but that's another discussion... I'm fighting here...
Ahhhh. I haven't heard the end yet. Sorry buddy. I was just posting what I heard so far.
It seems to be lower prices for Argentine now?
It seems to be a posibility of early acces now? (at least 1%)
I thought you have the only word...so I think, maybe you could think twice and wait a second before typing what your negative side of your brain is telling you. Or maybe you just like (or need) people replying you every post you make.
Don´t want to fight, but less want to read any post from you telling us that "there´s nothing we can do".
Thanks.
Brazil's main problem is the politician's corruption, but that's another discussion... I'm fighting here...
Not 100% in this one. Every Politicians are the true reflection of their Society. So the main problem is the (sick) society itself...that of course, includes politicians.
I'm disappointed with the organization, but the band is not guilty. Unfortunately, not this time I'll see the shows, I know that I will be forced to stay back there, where people only know how to sing "Alive" and "Last Kiss" (the chorus), as happened in 2005... If I can buy before these people will be satisfied.
The dream is becoming a nightmare. I thought this year, the dream of seeing Pearl Jam would become reality.
I was one of those on 10C line. Some from the regular line hit me with a beer can.
But I could understand their frustration. I would be frustrated too. I know most of the members this time, became members because of what they saw in the last concert.
That's the may reason I am fighting hard on this one. I work for American people for 12 years now.
I've been to US over 20 times. I know how they work.
When they see the point from our eyes. They will understand it and make it happen.
I really hope you're right.
PS: I don't remember myself throwing beer cans at people, but there might have been some cursing and swearing...
me and Tim said they will look it again..so lets keep it up..those Latinos deserve the best
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I agree with Alex!
I am one of the four friends he appointed to 10C, I am the new generation of fans and I admit to being disappointed. The advance purchase is not working (as our friend said earlier in Mexico are providing the password to non-members), the only benefit would be an initial entry.
We are here fighting for something simple, I went to a U2 concert at Morumbi in São Paulo and had no trouble entering the restricted area (red zone), if the concern is that there are multiple entries, could leave a door for members only of 10C ...
We hear songs from Pearl Jam all day
The lyrics of Black's tattooed on my skin
In my marriage played songs from Pearl Jam
We have pictures and poster of Pearl Jam in our homes
We become members of the 10C because we love Pearl Jam.
These are just some reasons to show how much we deserve the benefit of the initial input, we need to be near them, we deserve!
During these six years we have been waiting for this show, and not become members of the 10C just to get tickets in advance.
We become members of the 10C by the band we admire and want to somehow be connected to them.
Another thing, it is clear that the band has changed in 15 years, plus they still know what is right!
Sorry about that kind of agressive subject, but I was really angry when I read that we would not have the early access benefits, so, I changed the subject to a proper one, advised by fcbittenca
I’m one big fan of many of band have in Brazil, for this i can say, we very, very sad with 10C for not give us a oportunity to acess first to shows.
We pay every year in the hope watching the shows and now, we can’t connect with the band? Is no fair... The years go, but the is right is right always.
I’m one big fan of many of band have in Brazil, for this i can say, we very, very sad with 10C for not give us a oportunity to acess first to shows.
We pay every year in the hope watching the shows and now, we can’t connect with the band? Is no fair... The years go, but the is right is right always.
Don´t give it up!
Read some posts before...there is hope!
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
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we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
The contract is done. Tour management (ie not 10c) has had to get that deal up whereby the promoters have agreed to do the multi-tiered pricing arrangement. Once that's in place there's no possibility of early entry.
If they withdraw from that deal now, obviously I don't have access to the details of the contract, but it leaves the band open to a 100% certain lawsuit by the promoters for breach of contract. In that case, goodbye South American tour.
Tim had made mistakes before, and this isn't one of them. It's just over his head, unfortunately. Saying that he'll look into it is diplomatic speak, like 'WE LOVE PLAYING <insert whatever city they're in> YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE'RE BACK NEXT YEAR'.
115 bucks for half a haircut by a novice? I want my money back!
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
The contract is done. Tour management (ie not 10c) has had to get that deal up whereby the promoters have agreed to do the multi-tiered pricing arrangement. Once that's in place there's no possibility of early entry.
If they withdraw from that deal now, obviously I don't have access to the details of the contract, but it leaves the band open to a 100% certain lawsuit by the promoters for breach of contract. In that case, goodbye South American tour.
Tim had made mistakes before, and this isn't one of them. It's just over his head, unfortunately. Saying that he'll look into it is diplomatic speak, like 'WE LOVE PLAYING <insert whatever city they're in> YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE'RE BACK NEXT YEAR'.
Pretty much their choice was. One high price with early admission or multi teared pricing so everyone could go but no early admission.
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
The contract is done. Tour management (ie not 10c) has had to get that deal up whereby the promoters have agreed to do the multi-tiered pricing arrangement. Once that's in place there's no possibility of early entry.
If they withdraw from that deal now, obviously I don't have access to the details of the contract, but it leaves the band open to a 100% certain lawsuit by the promoters for breach of contract. In that case, goodbye South American tour.
Tim had made mistakes before, and this isn't one of them. It's just over his head, unfortunately. Saying that he'll look into it is diplomatic speak, like 'WE LOVE PLAYING <insert whatever city they're in> YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE'RE BACK NEXT YEAR'.
no need to withdraw hinny..just ask something for 50 fans....one of the 30 gates of the stadium be for 10c members..isnt something important for the contract and the promoters...its small change ,thats why can happen..now go sign the petition..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
oh and Hinny dont tell me that you going to BA..you gonna kill me :(
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
The contract is done. Tour management (ie not 10c) has had to get that deal up whereby the promoters have agreed to do the multi-tiered pricing arrangement. Once that's in place there's no possibility of early entry.
If they withdraw from that deal now, obviously I don't have access to the details of the contract, but it leaves the band open to a 100% certain lawsuit by the promoters for breach of contract. In that case, goodbye South American tour.
Tim had made mistakes before, and this isn't one of them. It's just over his head, unfortunately. Saying that he'll look into it is diplomatic speak, like 'WE LOVE PLAYING <insert whatever city they're in> YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE'RE BACK NEXT YEAR'.
Thanks God, I don't see the word from your perspective. A good deal of stuff I did would never had happened.
We are not asking for any contract breach. The petition is: Keep EVERYTHING the way it already is.
Just allow 10C members Early Access to ONE Sector of the Venue. Just that.
Let's see how it plays out. I hope you will never have to face this type of situation in your life, where you need to stand up and request to be heard.
Comments
Absolutely! There has to be a solution.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I was one of those on 10C line. Some from the regular line hit me with a beer can.
But I could understand their frustration. I would be frustrated too. I know most of the members this time, became members because of what they saw in the last concert.
That's the may reason I am fighting hard on this one. I work for American people for 12 years now.
I've been to US over 20 times. I know how they work.
When they see the point from our eyes. They will understand it and make it happen.
I would add another point: a lower price for international membership or a new "3rd world" cheaper membership, if its bennefits aren't going to be the same as for other countries.
hating indie crap since 1978
One thing at a time. First let's solve the problem at hand. They enjoy ourselves in the concert.
If it doesn't turn out the way we think is fair, then we do something about it.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I have to disagree!!
Don't subestimate yourself and your country!!! Come on!!! Optimism, my friend!!! I work every single day to make my country richer... Brazil's main problem is the politician's corruption, but that's another discussion... I'm fighting here...
It's not easy, but we have to believe it
It seems to be lower prices for Argentine now?
It seems to be a posibility of early acces now? (at least 1%)
I thought you have the only word...so I think, maybe you could think twice and wait a second before typing what your negative side of your brain is telling you. Or maybe you just like (or need) people replying you every post you make.
Don´t want to fight, but less want to read any post from you telling us that "there´s nothing we can do".
Thanks.
"positive vibration yeah! positive!"
100% agree on this one
Not 100% in this one. Every Politicians are the true reflection of their Society. So the main problem is the (sick) society itself...that of course, includes politicians.
Anyway...let´s keep fighting!!
The dream is becoming a nightmare. I thought this year, the dream of seeing Pearl Jam would become reality.
Please, help us!
Let's get organized.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=163698
Sign up and let's make ONE request that is doable and within reality.
Many have. We are just trying to keep the issue alive in hopes that something can/will be done.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I really hope you're right.
PS: I don't remember myself throwing beer cans at people, but there might have been some cursing and swearing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SnVYG9 ... r_embedded
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
http://www.petitiononline.com/pj10cla/petition.html
Let's try to see where we go from here.
I am one of the four friends he appointed to 10C, I am the new generation of fans and I admit to being disappointed. The advance purchase is not working (as our friend said earlier in Mexico are providing the password to non-members), the only benefit would be an initial entry.
We are here fighting for something simple, I went to a U2 concert at Morumbi in São Paulo and had no trouble entering the restricted area (red zone), if the concern is that there are multiple entries, could leave a door for members only of 10C ...
We hear songs from Pearl Jam all day
The lyrics of Black's tattooed on my skin
In my marriage played songs from Pearl Jam
We have pictures and poster of Pearl Jam in our homes
We become members of the 10C because we love Pearl Jam.
These are just some reasons to show how much we deserve the benefit of the initial input, we need to be near them, we deserve!
During these six years we have been waiting for this show, and not become members of the 10C just to get tickets in advance.
We become members of the 10C by the band we admire and want to somehow be connected to them.
Another thing, it is clear that the band has changed in 15 years, plus they still know what is right!
Sabrina - Brazil
http://livefootsteps.org/USER/?USR=1225
Thank you bro, it makes more sense now
I’m one big fan of many of band have in Brazil, for this i can say, we very, very sad with 10C for not give us a oportunity to acess first to shows.
We pay every year in the hope watching the shows and now, we can’t connect with the band? Is no fair... The years go, but the is right is right always.
Don´t give it up!
Read some posts before...there is hope!
we know you can change the current scenario.
Please review our questions. We're not asking a lot for you guys, but if you change the current scenario, it will be a great achievement for us fans.
Please review our early entries and bracelets ....
If it was up to them you would already have them.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=163698&start=30&p=3775376&view=show#p3775376
If they withdraw from that deal now, obviously I don't have access to the details of the contract, but it leaves the band open to a 100% certain lawsuit by the promoters for breach of contract. In that case, goodbye South American tour.
Tim had made mistakes before, and this isn't one of them. It's just over his head, unfortunately. Saying that he'll look into it is diplomatic speak, like 'WE LOVE PLAYING <insert whatever city they're in> YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK AND I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE'RE BACK NEXT YEAR'.
Pretty much their choice was. One high price with early admission or multi teared pricing so everyone could go but no early admission.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
http://www.petitiononline.com/pj10cla/petition.html
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Thanks God, I don't see the word from your perspective. A good deal of stuff I did would never had happened.
We are not asking for any contract breach. The petition is: Keep EVERYTHING the way it already is.
Just allow 10C members Early Access to ONE Sector of the Venue. Just that.
Let's see how it plays out. I hope you will never have to face this type of situation in your life, where you need to stand up and request to be heard.