this is my email:
Hi. my name is Francisco Rodriguez and I'm from Chile. I am a member of the 10c since 2006 and I became a member hopping that some day, when pearl jam plays a concert here in Chile, I will have the chance to be in the first row, with the early entrance benefits, but now you won't give us this VERY IMPORTANT benefit. I think is unjust.
This is not only my claim, there is a lot of people from all over the world that think this is unjust. Here is threat in the 10c forum about it (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=163398&start=45)
So, PLEASE, understand the importance of this claim for us.
bye and Shine On!!!!
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I support this thread, you guys should be getting something for your $50 every year. Come on 10c, these guys haven't had a tour in 6 years, give them a break.
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Even if this is in the contract, only Pearl Jam can change it. We're trying to make it happens, but 10c has to help us. Don't let the Event Producers be stronger than 10c members rights.
All they want is money. All we want is earlier access...
**just one question, have you guys sent it to the "info" email? or any other one?**
"Tickets" would be a better option for the email
i sent the email to all the directions that i found
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I'm not from South America but I fully support this. As if gouging you with outrageously high ticket prices wasn't enough, you guys get no privilege over the public.
Gary said he will try to call the Radio SHOW AET tomorrow. Let's see what Tim has to say about this.
Come on... we are not asking for too much here.
I was already disappointed when I saw that a Pearl Jam show would have ... arghhhh... SECTIONS!
I used to love to brag about how UNITED a PJ concert used to be. That everybody paid the same fair price.
Also that loyal supporting fans had a little extra appreciation for their undying love and support.
I understand that concert promoters are the worst people in the world and how they destroy the music experience. But we used to FIGHT against this type of people. I ask... WHAT HAPPENED?
Is the music we love and the message it sends a load of bullshit?
in early 2005 i'm join to the 10c. In 2005 south america tour, a cant get an early entry in my city (mexico city). Don't know why, but really i don't care since i just wanted to see my favorite band live for first time. I full support the band with my memership and i'm active member since that 2005 tour. I want an early entry to the venue for this tour or i'm not renew my memership this year. Searusly.
We should not have to wait until AET for a response. Tim and Santos both have a presence here on the boards and dozens of emails have been sent about this issue. You should get ahead of this and explain what is going on as soon as you can guys. The longer it goes the worse it gets.
This pretty much sucks...
Don't get me wrong, of course I will be rocking on the day of the concert, but this is kinda heartbreaking.
This is THE MAIN REASON why I am a member. This is what we get for 50 dollars:
- a holiday single that may or may not arrive
- a magazine that may or may not arrive
- a tshirt of VERY dubious quality
- posting rights in the band's forum
-... that's pretty much it, beacause now we get no benefits the day of the concert, since I would bet anything that the password has already leaked.
I don't know Ten Club... you are making this a REALLY REALLY hard buy for me... depending what happens from here until november 24th I probably won't renew next year... what for?
Mexico City - July 17th 2003
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Mexico City - July 19th 2003
Monterrey - December 7th 2005
Mexico City - December 9th 2005
Mexico City - December 10th 2005
Mexico City - November 24th 2011
First of all, South Americans, 10c sent an email to another user that won't have early access at the day of the shows... so...
Hey 10c,
There are a lot of 10c members here that really want at least the option to choose for all the tickets.
Ok, you made it by the password and the e-mail, but we want early access too. It's been 6 years since last PJ South American tour. Imagine, there'll be many people again outside the venue before the show, but we should have the right to have early access, because who pay U$50,00 per year, are the people who works every day, and not those who can sleep one, two, three days in front of the venue.
I think it's fair for those who support 10c to have early access. Do you?!?
:evil:
People will whine about anything. It doesn't matter which country or which continent. Whining doesn't discriminate. It's everywhere.
these tickets aren't being distributed by the 10 Club so they really have no options here I don't believe.
First of all, South Americans, 10c sent an email to another user that won't have early access at the day of the shows... so...
Hey 10c,
There are a lot of 10c members here that really want at least the option to choose for all the tickets.
Ok, you made it by the password and the e-mail, but we want early access too. It's been 6 years since last PJ South American tour. Imagine, there'll be many people again outside the venue before the show, but we should have the right to have early access, because who pay U$50,00 per year, are the people who works every day, and not those who can sleep one, two, three days in front of the venue.
I think it's fair for those who support 10c to have early access. Do you?!?
:evil:
People will whine about anything. It doesn't matter which country or which continent. Whining doesn't discriminate. It's everywhere.
Hey brother, I'm not talking about discrimination in here. It's just because it happened to the Latin America Tour. As far as I know, it doesn't happen on USA, Europe, etc...
I think that the concert producers have their fingers on this...
First of all, South Americans, 10c sent an email to another user that won't have early access at the day of the shows... so...
Hey 10c,
There are a lot of 10c members here that really want at least the option to choose for all the tickets.
Ok, you made it by the password and the e-mail, but we want early access too. It's been 6 years since last PJ South American tour. Imagine, there'll be many people again outside the venue before the show, but we should have the right to have early access, because who pay U$50,00 per year, are the people who works every day, and not those who can sleep one, two, three days in front of the venue.
I think it's fair for those who support 10c to have early access. Do you?!?
:evil:
People will whine about anything. It doesn't matter which country or which continent. Whining doesn't discriminate. It's everywhere.
Hey brother, I'm not talking about discrimination in here. It's just because it happened to the Latin America Tour. As far as I know, it doesn't happen on USA, Europe, etc...
I think that the concert producers have their fingers on this...
This is not a 10 Club sale, just a password to get early access to the sale. They aren't distributed by the 10 Club and thus aren't 10 Club tickets. It's obviously the countries policy or I'm sure the 10 Club would have done what they could. Who knows, they could still be working on something.
ok..the only explenation i can imagine is that the presale isnt from 10c,but from other ticket sites and 10c cant control this,but the sites gives their servers for the sale.in previous sales of 10c tix ,10c could do this early entrance thing..tbis is sadly not a 10c presale..is just an early presale..and this passwords will leak,so maybe scalpers will take the tix and not true,10c members..
But,,seriously..in 20 years this is the second time pj tour in SA...So they must find a solution for the South American 10c members..paying so many years membership for have the chance to see in thier country,not even your city,the band ONLY 2 times in 20 years...,10c MUST find the way to reward those great fans,
we talking just for a different gate to the venue,and 15-30 minutes earlier..come on 10c...i know you can try this..i know you can find the way..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok..the only explenation i can imagine is that the presale isnt from 10c,but from other ticket sites and 10c cant control this,but the sites gives their servers for the sale.in previous sales of 10c tix ,10c could do this early entrance thing..tbis is sadly not a 10c presale..is just an early presale..and this passwords will leak,so maybe scalpers will take the tix and not true,10c members..
But,,seriously..in 20 years this is the second time pj tour in SA...So they must find a solution for the South American 10c members..paying so many years membership for have the chance to see in thier country,not even your city,the band ONLY 2 times in 20 years...,10c MUST find the way to reward those great fans,
we talking just for a different gate to the venue,and 15-30 minutes earlier..come on 10c...i know you can try this..i know you can find the way..
I suggest talking to your local government. They are the ones preventing the 10 Club from distributing the tickets. There is no reason to whine about it here even though it sucks you don't get the the benefits we get in other countries.
I suggest talking to your local government. They are the ones preventing the 10 Club from distributing the tickets. There is no reason to whine about it here even though it sucks you don't get the the benefits we get in other countries.
Can't understand how local governments are related to the organisation of private concerts... :?
I suggest talking to your local government. They are the ones preventing the 10 Club from distributing the tickets. There is no reason to whine about it here even though it sucks you don't get the the benefits we get in other countries.
local government!? are you serious about this??
we're not asking for special treatment, just the same every other country gets... AND THE SAME WE SOUTHAMERICANS HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IN 2005.
if it was possible in 2005, it could be done again. it SHOULD be, considering the more expensive membership and tickets.
I suggest talking to your local government. They are the ones preventing the 10 Club from distributing the tickets. There is no reason to whine about it here even though it sucks you don't get the the benefits we get in other countries.
Can't understand how local governments are related to the organisation of private concerts... :?
Private concerts. hahahahahahahaha when money is being made government always has their hand in it.
I understand that concert promoters are the worst people in the world and how they destroy the music experience. But we used to FIGHT against this type of people. I ask... WHAT HAPPENED?
Is the music we love and the message it sends a load of bullshit?
Hey promoters... DROP THE LEASH!!!!
The thing is, why the 10C decides to go along with the promoter in Latin America with everything concerning member tickets, I know that at least in Mexico, bands do have the power to establish proper conditions for members to have designated areas.
What bothers me the most is these wiseass answers that the 10C gives about being unable to change this situation :evil:
I feel very close to you all now; so close I could almost... loan you money. Really. it goes that deep.
-Tom Waits-
Everybody should believe in something...I believe i'll have another drink - anonymous -
I know 10C is not responsible for the pre sale this time, T4F (tickets for fun, the promoter - that we fondly call "tickets for f@%k" here in Brazil, because they literally f@%k the fans every time) is holding the pre sale, but 10C has a way of checking which member has bought tix and is eligible for early entry.
They just have to get in contact with the members after the pre sale via email (like they did to announce the pre sales) and have us respond to which concert are we going and how many tix we have purchased.
Then they set up a tent on the day of the concert, check our names in the list, and give us our wristbands like in 2005. Is that so hard? We take IDs, tix and email confirmation and that's it!
Doing this way (or any other they think of), by not depending on the promoter, is easily done and doens't require much does it?
I'm not from South America but I fully support this. As if gouging you with outrageously high ticket prices wasn't enough, you guys get no privilege over the public.
100%
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LIFE WASTED, BLOOD on the PORCH, LAST KISS is a WISHLIST DEEP DOWN NOTHING AS IT SEEMS WHY GO COME BACK ALIVE SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE and SMILE.
Obviously it's a little more complicated then you think it is. Do you honestly think they didn't try to do all they could?
in the end ill be the only one talking to u in pj world..dont make mad the South Hemisphare now ,ok?
come on,let southies express their feeling about it..they wait so many years..its just a fuckin early entrance..getting your tix at the box office will get a wristband as well..problem solved..,or if they ship the ticket,ship the wristband or just print different colors to the tix of presales...support their demand..come on..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I suggest talking to your local government. They are the ones preventing the 10 Club from distributing the tickets. There is no reason to whine about it here even though it sucks you don't get the the benefits we get in other countries.
Can't understand how local governments are related to the organisation of private concerts... :?
Private concerts. hahahahahahahaha when money is being made government always has their hand in it.
I'll suppose you're just assuming a very naive, or even prejudiced, perspective of how things really work.
Plus, I do honestly think the 10C didn't try to do all they could. Unless they explain us why is it so hard to provide the members with the same benefits they had in 2005, I shall stick to my position.
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Hi. my name is Francisco Rodriguez and I'm from Chile. I am a member of the 10c since 2006 and I became a member hopping that some day, when pearl jam plays a concert here in Chile, I will have the chance to be in the first row, with the early entrance benefits, but now you won't give us this VERY IMPORTANT benefit. I think is unjust.
This is not only my claim, there is a lot of people from all over the world that think this is unjust. Here is threat in the 10c forum about it (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=163398&start=45)
So, PLEASE, understand the importance of this claim for us.
bye and Shine On!!!!
Do you want to see my vinyls collection? Just "Click" in the image
Even if this is in the contract, only Pearl Jam can change it. We're trying to make it happens, but 10c has to help us. Don't let the Event Producers be stronger than 10c members rights.
All they want is money. All we want is earlier access...
i sent the email to all the directions that i found
(<!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:shipping@tenclub.net">shipping@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:contest@tenclub.net">contest@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:activism@tenclub.net">activism@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->)
Do you want to see my vinyls collection? Just "Click" in the image
yeah ... this ...
Gary said he will try to call the Radio SHOW AET tomorrow. Let's see what Tim has to say about this.
Come on... we are not asking for too much here.
I was already disappointed when I saw that a Pearl Jam show would have ... arghhhh... SECTIONS!
I used to love to brag about how UNITED a PJ concert used to be. That everybody paid the same fair price.
Also that loyal supporting fans had a little extra appreciation for their undying love and support.
I understand that concert promoters are the worst people in the world and how they destroy the music experience. But we used to FIGHT against this type of people. I ask... WHAT HAPPENED?
Is the music we love and the message it sends a load of bullshit?
Hey promoters... DROP THE LEASH!!!!
Mail Sent.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Don't get me wrong, of course I will be rocking on the day of the concert, but this is kinda heartbreaking.
This is THE MAIN REASON why I am a member. This is what we get for 50 dollars:
- a holiday single that may or may not arrive
- a magazine that may or may not arrive
- a tshirt of VERY dubious quality
- posting rights in the band's forum
-... that's pretty much it, beacause now we get no benefits the day of the concert, since I would bet anything that the password has already leaked.
I don't know Ten Club... you are making this a REALLY REALLY hard buy for me... depending what happens from here until november 24th I probably won't renew next year... what for?
Mexico City - July 18th 2003
Mexico City - July 19th 2003
Monterrey - December 7th 2005
Mexico City - December 9th 2005
Mexico City - December 10th 2005
Mexico City - November 24th 2011
People will whine about anything. It doesn't matter which country or which continent. Whining doesn't discriminate. It's everywhere.
these tickets aren't being distributed by the 10 Club so they really have no options here I don't believe.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
Hey brother, I'm not talking about discrimination in here. It's just because it happened to the Latin America Tour. As far as I know, it doesn't happen on USA, Europe, etc...
I think that the concert producers have their fingers on this...
This is not a 10 Club sale, just a password to get early access to the sale. They aren't distributed by the 10 Club and thus aren't 10 Club tickets. It's obviously the countries policy or I'm sure the 10 Club would have done what they could. Who knows, they could still be working on something.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
But,,seriously..in 20 years this is the second time pj tour in SA...So they must find a solution for the South American 10c members..paying so many years membership for have the chance to see in thier country,not even your city,the band ONLY 2 times in 20 years...,10c MUST find the way to reward those great fans,
we talking just for a different gate to the venue,and 15-30 minutes earlier..come on 10c...i know you can try this..i know you can find the way..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Exactly.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
local government!? are you serious about this??
we're not asking for special treatment, just the same every other country gets... AND THE SAME WE SOUTHAMERICANS HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IN 2005.
if it was possible in 2005, it could be done again. it SHOULD be, considering the more expensive membership and tickets.
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hating indie crap since 1978
No
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
Mike has twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/MikeMcCreadyPJ
Private concerts. hahahahahahahaha when money is being made government always has their hand in it.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
The thing is, why the 10C decides to go along with the promoter in Latin America with everything concerning member tickets, I know that at least in Mexico, bands do have the power to establish proper conditions for members to have designated areas.
What bothers me the most is these wiseass answers that the 10C gives about being unable to change this situation :evil:
-Tom Waits-
Everybody should believe in something...I believe i'll have another drink - anonymous -
Ah that's just drunk talk, sweet beautiful drunk talk.
-Barney Gumble-
And I'm sure he will respond to your ticket concerns.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
They just have to get in contact with the members after the pre sale via email (like they did to announce the pre sales) and have us respond to which concert are we going and how many tix we have purchased.
Then they set up a tent on the day of the concert, check our names in the list, and give us our wristbands like in 2005. Is that so hard? We take IDs, tix and email confirmation and that's it!
Doing this way (or any other they think of), by not depending on the promoter, is easily done and doens't require much does it?
100%
LIFE WASTED, BLOOD on the PORCH, LAST KISS is a WISHLIST DEEP DOWN NOTHING AS IT SEEMS WHY GO COME BACK ALIVE SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE and SMILE.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
come on,let southies express their feeling about it..they wait so many years..its just a fuckin early entrance..getting your tix at the box office will get a wristband as well..problem solved..,or if they ship the ticket,ship the wristband or just print different colors to the tix of presales...support their demand..come on..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Plus, I do honestly think the 10C didn't try to do all they could. Unless they explain us why is it so hard to provide the members with the same benefits they had in 2005, I shall stick to my position.
I really would like them to explain it. Did anybody receive a reply from 10c about this situation?
I didn't...