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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,392
    There are two kinds of motorcycle riders. Those that have gone down, and those that are gonna.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Blockhead wrote:
    Yes, lets take it to that extreme...
    Why don't we make it manditory to wear helmets while driving a car? Its for safety right.
    What about making it a law that kids have to wear helmets while slead riding/riding a bike?

    HOW IS THAT AN EXTREME??? I wear a seatbelt every time I get behind a wheel. it saves lives. do you dispute that?

    and damn right my kid wears a bike helmet every time she gets on one. I'd be a bad parent if she didn't. what issue do you with that? a 4 year old's hair being messed up? does it look "geeky"? I'd say 90% of the bike riders where I live where them, adults and children alike, on the road with cars or not.

    It's just common sense. why do people resist taking precautions? is it not cool to be safe? :roll:
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Yes, lets take it to that extreme...
    Why don't we make it manditory to wear helmets while driving a car? Its for safety right.
    What about making it a law that kids have to wear helmets while slead riding/riding a bike?
    We have bicycle helmet laws here...I think some ski hills are considering makign helmets mandatory. Actually, I think I must have bumped MY head at some point in the last couple days, cause I agreed with Godfather yesterday, now you today...i don't agree with helmet laws, or seatbelt laws, or any of these stupid laws protecting adults from themselves.
    Yes, commercial fireworks can kill others, so ok. Same with driving on the wrong side of the road...Kids don't have the mental capacity to make an informed decision on whether or not to wear a seatbelt, or sit in a car seat, so those laws Im fine with. They're designed to protect innocents from negligence.
    But if someone wants to take risks that can cause no physical harm to anyone else, who are we to say no? Before we say 'but you are risking emotionally hurting your family if you're killed'.....wouldnt' that apply every time we get behind the wheel, period? It's legal to jump out of a plane, bungee jump, surgically alter your body for fun/esthetics, chase tornados, smoke cigs, and a million other dangerous activities...but not to ride a bike without a helmet, or smoke a joint in your own basement. It's all reactionary bs derived from the latest, most hyped panic and a need for additional govt cash cows...

    Someone not wearing a seatbelt can certainly effect the health/lives of others in the same car. Have you ever seen someone fly around in a car accident without a seatbelt?

    If you are going to do away with some of these laws, then you must allow insurance companies to not pay out a dime for injuries when someone isn't using the appropriate safety gear. You must also allow someone to be charged with manslaughter when they choose to not wear a seatbelt and they fly into the back of the car killing someone.

    Honestly, I have no idea why people continue to fight for their right to be a f'in dumbass.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    how many people on the thread own and ride a motorcycle......not the one parked in the garage for months at a time. and Cincy ..the insurance companys ? really ?

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    The highest of fives is waiting for you my friend.
    Lets let adults make adult decisions.

    these two blockheads clearly couldn't. And godfather stated himself that you won't ever get into an accident if you know what you are doing. How ridiculous. no matter how great a rider you are, you can't always account for other shitty drivers on the road that may kill you if you don't have a helmet on. it's not a personal slight on someone's skills. I think we're a bit older than that.

    now, since they didn't harm anyone else but themselves, they can be free to do what they want. but I have no sympathy for dolts like this.

    I'm not saying you can't make correct decisions, but a very high percentage (more than we'd like to admit, I'm sure) need to be protected from themselves, and others protected from them.

    Don't tell me that "government is raising our kids". Most laws are born from public outrage. People make laws, governments don't.

    and Godfather said what ? c'mon brother that's just a little out there in the cheap seats aint it. :lol:

    Godfather.

    P.S. please point out where I posted that, I think you might be wrong.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    The highest of fives is waiting for you my friend.
    Lets let adults make adult decisions.

    these two blockheads clearly couldn't. And godfather stated himself that you won't ever get into an accident if you know what you are doing. How ridiculous. no matter how great a rider you are, you can't always account for other shitty drivers on the road that may kill you if you don't have a helmet on. it's not a personal slight on someone's skills. I think we're a bit older than that.

    now, since they didn't harm anyone else but themselves, they can be free to do what they want. but I have no sympathy for dolts like this.

    I'm not saying you can't make correct decisions, but a very high percentage (more than we'd like to admit, I'm sure) need to be protected from themselves, and others protected from them.

    Don't tell me that "government is raising our kids". Most laws are born from public outrage. People make laws, governments don't.

    and Godfather said what ? c'mon brother that's just a little out there in the cheap seats aint it. :lol:

    Godfather.

    P.S. please point out where I posted that, I think you might be wrong.

    you said people who have more than 5 years experience should have the choice. one would deduce from that that means you won't get into an accident if you have that much experience, otherwise, your argument of having the choice to not wear a helmet doesn't make much sense.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    how many people on the thread own and ride a motorcycle......not the one parked in the garage for months at a time. and Cincy ..the insurance companys ? really ?

    Godfather.

    actually the insurance company point is one I was also going to make. it's a great point. if i was an insurance company, why would I pay someone's estate out for dying accidentally (which is usually a very lofty payout) when they didn't take the necessary precautions to avoid it? it only makes sense.
    Gimli 1993
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    how many people on the thread own and ride a motorcycle......not the one parked in the garage for months at a time.
    Godfather.

    really? really? are you insinuating that we need to be drivers in order to have a valid point? that argument holds NO water, no matter what the subject.
    Gimli 1993
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    St. Paul 2014
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Someone not wearing a seatbelt can certainly effect the health/lives of others in the same car. Have you ever seen someone fly around in a car accident without a seatbelt?

    If you are going to do away with some of these laws, then you must allow insurance companies to not pay out a dime for injuries when someone isn't using the appropriate safety gear. You must also allow someone to be charged with manslaughter when they choose to not wear a seatbelt and they fly into the back of the car killing someone.

    Honestly, I have no idea why people continue to fight for their right to be a f'in dumbass.
    Make the seatbelt penalties apply only when there are other passengers in the car. Do away with those claims. I'm not saying there should be zero consequence to these choices. I'm saying it should be a choice.
    You make it sound as if it's not possible to implement these changes. How was it handled before the laws came into effect? I doubt insurance companies would mind more reasons to deny claims.

    I'm not fighting anything, just commenting on the stupidity of policing stupidity. I disagree that people need to be protected from themselves.
    What about my other examples? Should people be allowed to legally undergo optional surgical procedures, or jump from airplanes, drive a car, eat fatty foods etc etc? Why? Where do we draw the line?
  • Trigger
    Trigger Posts: 16
    Wow. Can't believe people are comparing wearing a helmet in a car to wearing a helmet on a motorcycle... Lets see a car has a frame around the occupants, and all new cars have air bags. A person riding a motorcycle faces direct contact with the pavement, and all other obstacles on the road and vicinity in the event of an accident.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    how many people on the thread own and ride a motorcycle......not the one parked in the garage for months at a time.
    Godfather.

    really? really? are you insinuating that we need to be drivers in order to have a valid point? that argument holds NO water, no matter what the subject.

    NO !...NO! :lol: HELMETS IN Ca.. were a choice up intell 89 or 90 and they should be a choice today,
    it's not and argument of safty practices anybody knows a helmet MAY save your life in mototcycle crash
    the argument is MY right as an adult to make the choice to wear a melmet or not when I ride and insurance companys will fuck you out of as much money as possible helmet or not...fuckin crooks !
    and my 5 years post was not to say that after 5 years you will not get in a crash my point was NEED EXPERIANCE on a motorcycle..I can't believe you twisted that post into what you did, are you willing to just agree with everything our government tells you and asks you give up a personal freedom,
    your arguments for safty are great but they are split by your blindness for my rights as a rider.


    Godfather.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    how many people on the thread own and ride a motorcycle......not the one parked in the garage for months at a time.
    Godfather.

    really? really? are you insinuating that we need to be drivers in order to have a valid point? that argument holds NO water, no matter what the subject.

    NO !...NO! :lol: HELMETS IN Ca.. were a choice up intell 89 or 90 and they should be a choice today,
    it's not and argument of safty practices anybody knows a helmet MAY save your life in mototcycle crash
    the argument is MY right as an adult to make the choice to wear a melmet or not when I ride and insurance companys will fuck you out of as much money as possible helmet or not...fuckin crooks !
    and my 5 years post was not to say that after 5 years you will not get in a crash my point was NEED EXPERIANCE on a motorcycle..I can't believe you twisted that post into what you did, are you willing to just agree with everything our government tells you and asks you give up a personal freedom,
    your arguments for safty are great but they are split by your blindness for my rights as a rider.


    Godfather.

    I generally follow laws, yes, but ESPECIALLY the ones I know protect me and others. But I don't necessarily do it because of the possible ticket, I do it because it's common sense. I don't drink and drive because I might get a DUI, I don't drink and drive because I might hurt myself or someone else.

    driving a motorcycle is not a right, it's a priveledge, so arguing personal freedom makes absolutely no sense. if you want personal freedom to kill yourself, then I guess that's your right.

    I didn't twist your post. you said "wear a helmet for 5 years and then you make the decision". I deduced that you were saying that after five years of experience, that elminates your possibility of a crash. if that's not what you meant, then what was the point of it?
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