Season Ticket Sales Office Miscommunication for PJ20 Weekend

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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    i dont have a clue what your talking about .. :lol:
    a member pay for a binaural vinyl sealed very expensive but he got an open binaural cd ,thats the story more or less :mrgreen:
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,489
    Sawyer-
    Your seats still might be incredible seats...
    Just maybe not 6th row.
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,807
    pjl44 wrote:
    shep wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:


    Thank God I did.....I would have gone to my seats and 81 would have been there too :) Can you imagine of I did not post this and they double sold...I mean..can you...I should be getting 10 Club gift cards for this info

    But that's the thing, they wouldn't have been double sold...

    what makes you think Live Nation gave 10C all the seats? I highly doubt that, especially seeming how Tim says in his post that you will be seated behind the 10C seats...

    Live nation gives 10C the tickets. Not like "contractually" gives, I mean they physically issue them the tickets. So when they printed out 10C's tickets, they just would have bumped their seats back another row to accommodate tickets that they had sold, done and done!

    I can't understand why you expect 10C to rectify this. You purposely tried to go around their ticketing philosophy by making this purchase with live nation. You essentially flipped them the bird and said, "Fuck your policies I will not sit on the lawn and share the seats with my fellow 10 clubbers."

    Why the fuck should they help you at all?

    This is a little harsh, no? There will be plenty of avenues to purchase tickets outside of being in the Ten Club, and he thought he found one. I agree that it doesn't seem the Ten Club erred, but it's unfair to intimate he's thumbing his nose at anyone. Anyone who thought they were getting awesome seats and has that much money tied up in them would be really frustrated right now.

    Alright, I'm sorry, that might have been a little far, but...

    When I started reading this thread on was on your side Sawyer, however your attitude is bewildering, and it has turned me against you.

    Like I said, provided you keep your kool when you're talking to live nation, you're probably going to wind up with the best seats in the house.

    However, you expecting 10C to rectify this situation is beyond me. Like I said, you deliberately tried to go around them to get the best seats in the house for both nights. They didn't screw you here, Live Nation did.

    You know why I'm not going to Alpine Valley? Cause I don't want to travel 1000 miles to get lawn tickets. I didn't screw around with back doors trying to secure my tickets, I just said screw it, I'll go to Toronto (and Ottawa and Hamilton)... but hey... it's your plane, fly it how you like.
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    how is it 'going around them' when:

    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub

    b. had the ability to do so

    c. tried to help people out who did not want lawn
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    still got good music
    i know
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,807
    Sawyer wrote:
    how is it 'going around them' when:

    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub

    b. had the ability to do so

    c. tried to help people out who did not want lawn

    So all these points taken - why are you now calling on them to help you?????
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    oh well...too nice out to worry about this...should have expected it...I'll fill you guys in on the Livenation response later...time to live in the 'Present Tense'
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    shep wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    how is it 'going around them' when:

    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub

    b. had the ability to do so

    c. tried to help people out who did not want lawn

    So all these points taken - why are you now calling on them to help you?????


    because the only fault they had was not having the VIP vendors taken out of the equation....whoops
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,123
    edited May 2011
    Clusterfuck of epic proportions
    unlimited funds
    Festival of this magnitude
    epic fail of this caliber
    our band
    lawsuit
    we have a mom and pop fanclub operation.....its too big for these good people to handle by themselves

    seriously?
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    Clusterfuck of epic proportions
    unlimited funds
    Festival of this magnitude
    epic fail of this caliber
    our band
    lawsuit
    we
    have a mom and pop fanclub operation.....its too big for these good people to handle by themselves

    seriously?


    drop $2700 and get back to me...this is a colossal error...you can use that one now too
  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,489
    Sawyer wrote:
    how is it 'going around them' when:

    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub

    b. had the ability to do so

    c. tried to help people out who did not want lawn
    Are you a scalper?
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    Spoken wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    how is it 'going around them' when:

    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub

    b. had the ability to do so

    c. tried to help people out who did not want lawn
    Are you a scalper?


    huh?
  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Sawyer wrote:
    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub


    So why do you have an issue with 10C then???????
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  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    boyo79 wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub


    So why do you have an issue with 10C then???????


    because this purchase would not have been possible if both parties had their ducks in a row...get it? LiveNation had no clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Sawyer wrote:
    oh well...too nice out to worry about this...should have expected it...I'll fill you guys in on the Livenation response later...time to live in the 'Present Tense'

    Personally, I would keep the outcome to myself and not broadcast it on the board - whichever way it goes.
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    redrock wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    oh well...too nice out to worry about this...should have expected it...I'll fill you guys in on the Livenation response later...time to live in the 'Present Tense'

    Personally, I would keep the outcome to myself and not broadcast it on the board - whichever way it goes.

    i just got row AAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
  • I think the band should just cancel the whole damn "festival".
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Sawyer wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    oh well...too nice out to worry about this...should have expected it...I'll fill you guys in on the Livenation response later...time to live in the 'Present Tense'

    Personally, I would keep the outcome to myself and not broadcast it on the board - whichever way it goes.

    i just got row AAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    Are you taking the piss? :mrgreen: I don't know with you :?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    edited May 2011
    wow....not even sure where to start on this topic. so, i'll just leave it alone.....except for this:
    Sawyer, hope you get your money back....but calling out the 10C seems like a bit much, in my opinion. good luck with the ticket sale tomorrow.
    Post edited by mfc2006 on
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Sawyer wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    a. i purchased from someone who does not have any association with the fanclub


    So why do you have an issue with 10C then???????


    because this purchase would not have been possible if both parties had their ducks in a row...get it? LiveNation had no clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    hahahah..so where was the livenation people when there was a meeting with all parties about tickets?watching nba playoffs?pff..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    mfc2006 wrote:
    wow....not even sure where to start on this topis. so, i'll just leave it alone.....except for this:
    Sawyer, hope you get your money back....but calling out the 10C seems like a bit much, in my opinion. good luck with the ticket sale tomorrow.


    not calling them out...they are wonderful people...just hoping for a more detailed explanation from how it got to this point w/o being caught.....they have always treated us fairly and I know that. However, I think constructive criticism is good for everyone. We can make this community stronger
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Sawyer wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:
    just angry that I made a good find, and the disorganization of this band have once again let me down....oh well. This doesn't happen with DMB, U2, or Springsteen. It is a well oiled machine.

    I really don't get how 10C let you down , they secured a good amount of tickets for the fan base you decided to go another route and score your own tickets the one's that screwd you as i see it are LN .


    i cannot figure out how logical people do not see the 10 Club as 1/2 of this botched tandem.
    I'm with you. Clearly the problem here was with communication. Both parties are equally responsible.
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,281
    Rubysdad wrote:
    In regards to postings about buying season ticket packages in order to secure incredible seats for PJ20, there has been a mix-up in the Live Nation ticket office. Those who purchased these packages and offered box seats as close as the 6th row, WILL NOT BE receiving those promised seat locations. All NEW season ticket package purchasers will be re-located BEHIND the Ten Club seats.

    Please keep in mind that Alpine Valley does have a number of existing season ticket holders who have priority options to purchase those tickets. The Ten Club respectfully acknowledges these pre-existing ticket holders and their right to purchase their tickets. Some of these tickets may be located in front of Ten Club allocated tickets.

    Live Nation and their ticket office have been very helpful in securing as many tickets as possible for The Ten Club. Their representatives feel horrible about this miscommunication and they apologize for any misunderstanding.

    Thanks, Tim

    this is just another reason why i am a fan of this band
    fight the power. yo

    live nation is a scalper
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    Rubysdad wrote:
    In regards to postings about buying season ticket packages in order to secure incredible seats for PJ20, there has been a mix-up in the Live Nation ticket office. Those who purchased these packages and offered box seats as close as the 6th row, WILL NOT BE receiving those promised seat locations. All NEW season ticket package purchasers will be re-located BEHIND the Ten Club seats.

    Please keep in mind that Alpine Valley does have a number of existing season ticket holders who have priority options to purchase those tickets. The Ten Club respectfully acknowledges these pre-existing ticket holders and their right to purchase their tickets. Some of these tickets may be located in front of Ten Club allocated tickets.

    Live Nation and their ticket office have been very helpful in securing as many tickets as possible for The Ten Club. Their representatives feel horrible about this miscommunication and they apologize for any misunderstanding.


    you're a fan of people getting their tickets stolen from them basically?
    Thanks, Tim

    this is just another reason why i am a fan of this band
    fight the power. yo

    live nation is a scalper
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    there was 5 parties..
    lets say ,10c.- livenation -alpine valley-promoter-mutherfuckinticketcompany in this deal..
    was 100 tickets..20 for 10c,20 fror alpine,20 for live nation,20 promoters,20 mutherfuckinticketcompany
    they made the deal..suddelny 10c saw that livenation sold to someone ticket that was the one they had for them and 5 times the prices up..and let know all their costumers about the mix,before sales start,and before others go to livenation and buy tickets that livenation DONT have...
    yeah right...i would be mad with 10c ,cos is the only secure EASY way to complain about all.. :roll:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    I think people are being too rough on Sawyer.

    I understand completely what he is doing and saying. He's not saying this is ALL 10C's fault. He's obviously pursuing a resolution with LN. But I absolutely agree that 10C could have prevented this. Communication is key. They are at least partly responsible for this mess.

    With the resources that a band as big and successful as Pearl Jam should have, stuff like this shouldn't happen. I agree that 10C does its best to help us all out. But there have been many times that I've experienced things or read about other members' experiences that make me feel very much like they are just in over their heads. Mom and pop shop is a pretty accurate description IMO. It frustrates me personally when things don't run more smoothly, especially after doubling the cost of membership. This whole situation was avoidable. I hope everyone involved can find a nice resolution for Sawyer. And if that resolution can somehow include getting me to PJ20 then I would appreciate that very much. :D
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    I think people are being too rough on Sawyer.

    I understand completely what he is doing and saying. He's not saying this is ALL 10C's fault. He's obviously pursuing a resolution with LN. But I absolutely agree that 10C could have prevented this. Communication is key. They are at least partly responsible for this mess.

    With the resources that a band as big and successful as Pearl Jam should have, stuff like this shouldn't happen. I agree that 10C does its best to help us all out. But there have been many times that I've experienced things or read about other members' experiences that make me feel very much like they are just in over their heads. Mom and pop shop is a pretty accurate description IMO. It frustrates me personally when things don't run more smoothly, especially after doubling the cost of membership. This whole situation was avoidable. I hope everyone involved can find a nice resolution for Sawyer. And if that resolution can somehow include getting me to PJ20 then I would appreciate that very much. :D


    thank you for being a realist..its rare in these parts
  • Anyone else sad this happened? 10C worked hard to put together something special for us. LN clerk just doing his job without knowing any behind-the-scenes deals, Sawyer understandably angry over his cool deal going south? LN dropping the ball? Sounds to me like Sawyer is trying to maintain his cool with us members, responding in kind to posts in whatever frame of mind they're sent to him . . . angry if they're mean, nicer if they're not. I feel he's just trying to explain why he's upset. Personally I don't see 10C as being at fault, as the deal was not made with 10C, but as was pointed out, we don't know the details between 10C and LN.

    Anyhow, I hope things work out satisfactorily for all parties and that everybody end up with a great PJ20 experience. It's a very special thing.
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    Anyone else sad this happened? 10C worked hard to put together something special for us. LN clerk just doing his job without knowing any behind-the-scenes deals, Sawyer understandably angry over his cool deal going south? LN dropping the ball? Sounds to me like Sawyer is trying to maintain his cool with us members, responding in kind to posts in whatever frame of mind they're sent to him . . . angry if they're mean, nicer if they're not. I feel he's just trying to explain why he's upset. Personally I don't see 10C as being at fault, as the deal was not made with 10C, but as was pointed out, we don't know the details between 10C and LN.

    Anyhow, I hope things work out satisfactorily for all parties and that everybody end up with a great PJ20 experience. It's a very special thing.


    agreed...its putting a damper on an incredible event
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