Season Ticket Sales Office Miscommunication for PJ20 Weekend

Sawyer · May 2011

and 'Miscommunication' is a tad light for this error

Sawyer · May 2011

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont like to repeat myself..but you can see it..all great organized..10c works this months ..they try and work hard for give us as more they can
thank you..great work 10c team

you're a well respected dude D but 'organized'? really?

jamminpearls · May 2011

Is the 10c organized? I'd say sometimes,but i don't see how this matter is their fault at all. Your beef isn't with them this time imo.

CROJAM95 · May 2011

Unlimited funds??

But trying to rape fellow board members with the immortality record store day release that ain't worth shit

But you can't buy common sense

Sawyer · May 2011

CROJAM95 wrote:

Unlimited funds??

But trying to rape fellow board members with the immortality record store day release that ain't worth shit

But you can't buy common sense

how is buying legit tickets and sharing w/ those who also want them lacking 'common sense'?

neilybabes86 · May 2011

THIS IS SOME "COMMUNITY" WE HAVE HERE.. :roll:

laughing at this dude's misfortune :roll:

boyo79 · May 2011

I just can't get 'Soon Forget' out of my head when reading through this thread.

rpeads11 · May 2011

Sawyer, don't shoot the messengers. LiveNation is who your anger and frustration should be directed toward. They sold tickets they didn't have, and then had the 10C let people know that they were screwed by LN. It was basically VIP live nation sales people trying to rip people off, hoping that nothing would be said and by the time you found out they would have their money. You should probably thank Tim for telling you what was up before you showed up at the gate.

Either way though, your in, and none of us are so be happy, its just money. If you have the resources to spend that kind of money on 2 shows I'm sure you'll make it back

Best of luck, and dont forget "You gotta spend it all"

Ledbetterman10 · May 2011

Sawyer, this may be karma for all your repetitive "Where's the PJ20 announcement?"posts that you made almost every day leading up to the actual announcement. Then again I don't believe in karma so maybe it's not.

Sawyer · May 2011

rpeads11 wrote:

Sawyer, don't shoot the messengers. LiveNation is who your anger and frustration should be directed toward. They sold tickets they didn't have, and then had the 10C let people know that they were screwed by LN. It was basically VIP live nation sales people trying to rip people off, hoping that nothing would be said and by the time you found out they would have their money. You should probably thank Tim for telling you what was up before you showed up at the gate.

Either way though, your in, and none of us are so be happy, its just money. If you have the resources to spend that kind of money on 2 shows I'm sure you'll make it back

Best of luck, and dont forget "You gotta spend it all"

agreed.....i am just curious why these tickets were ever put up for sale. these are intricacies i feel our club should have a firm handle on

pjl44 · May 2011

Sawyer wrote:

flabergasted that people say it has nothing to do with 10 Club....where did the breakdown in communication come from?

The way it sounds to me is that Live Nation was selling tickets that they didn't technically have access to. Ten Club saw your thread, figured out what was going on, and straightened things out with them. I can totally see where Ten Club thought everything was organized, but Live Nation goofed.

That said, I'd certainly be hot if I were in your shoes. Having that much dough tied up while you're sorting this out has to be incredibly frustrating. Are you gonna try for the Ten Club sale tomorrow or are all your eggs in the basket of Live Nation making things right?

drsluggo · May 2011

boyo79 wrote:

I just can't get 'Soon Forget' out of my head when reading through this thread.

boo... :roll:

CROJAM95 · May 2011

Sawyer wrote:

CROJAM95 wrote:

Unlimited funds??

But trying to rape fellow board members with the immortality record store day release that ain't worth shit

But you can't buy common sense

how is buying legit tickets and sharing w/ those who also want them lacking 'common sense'?

Oh fuckin please!!

Your claiming 10c has green disease, yet it seems you do as well. How much did you try to sell that for again?

And it ain't 10c's fault

And I'm not glad this happened to anyone, even you. Your anger is misguided

ilockyer · May 2011

Sawyer, hope you get this sorted 'cause that's a huge amount of bucks to lay down to not get what you'd ordered.

Blaming 10C isn't really going to help or win support for your cause here, your contract is with Live Nation. 10C aren't a party in this dispute at all.

If LN have sold you something they don't have, then that's down to their mis-management. Ticket allocation will have been sorted as part of the contract when PJ hired the venue. If LN haven't made their staff aware then that's their own fault and they should either refund you full or offer you the best seats they have at their disposal.

I hope you get the latter.

traveljunkie · May 2011

rpeads11 wrote:

They sold tickets they didn't have . . .

This.

Sawyer · May 2011

pjl44 wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

flabergasted that people say it has nothing to do with 10 Club....where did the breakdown in communication come from?

The way it sounds to me is that Live Nation was selling tickets that they didn't technically have access to. Ten Club saw your thread, figured out what was going on, and straightened things out with them. I can totally see where Ten Club thought everything was organized, but Live Nation goofed.

That said, I'd certainly be hot if I were in your shoes. Having that much dough tied up while you're sorting this out has to be incredibly frustrating. Are you gonna try for the Ten Club sale tomorrow or are all your eggs in the basket of Live Nation making things right?

oh yeah...absolutely....there are much worse things in life (ie. A fellow board member recently sharing he has cancer) I think having a little perspective helps. I will be in the gates of Alpine, it will be magical and this will all work out, especially the way I am channeling it. I have sent out quite a few e mails this morning.

drsluggo · May 2011

CROJAM95 wrote:

And it ain't 10c's fault

And I'm not glad this happened to anyone, even you. Your anger is misguided

Yeah it most likely isnt. Its impossible to know from the outside who dropped the ball, but it would seem the sales rep for LN sold the tix as they would for any show and didnt know that this was a 'special' set of shows where PJ maybe got more than the usual allotment.

So it was probably a sales rep doing what they always do and not knowing that things were a tad different this time around.

Who knows, but you'll definitely get better results battling with LN than you will calling the TC out on a message board.

given2fly23 · May 2011

Sawyer wrote:

Can I get your lawyer opinion on this though?

**First, I am not your lawyer, this is not a legal opinion and this communication does not form an attorney-client relationship.**

Second, I would not have sent the email that you did. I would have waited until Monday morning to contact the department that you spoke to last week. Do you think the CEO is sits there and reads his e-mail himself?

Third, as I mentioned before, as long as you got it in writing that you were getting 6th row tickets, you should have no problem getting a full refund, but it sounds like you want more. What a court would look at is whether you really incurred any harm. If you get a refund, then you did not, other than that you got excited and came on here and started a thread about your conquest.

**Fourth, I am not your lawyer, this is not a legal opinion and this communication does not form an attorney-client relationship.**

Sawyer · May 2011

this guy is the MAN. Livenation is about to meet him

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/problemsolver/

given2fly23 · May 2011

Sawyer wrote:

given2fly23 wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

keep laughing dude.....i'm still gonna end up in incredible seats. if you have unlimited funds and a will to rectify something it is always possible.

yeah, this is the attitude that causes you to incur so much wrath and so little sympathy. I was gonna offer to write an angry letter or make some angry phone calls for you (just because I'm a lawyer in Illinois and sometimes they respond better to lawyers) but since you have "unlimited funds," you dont need my help.

hahaha....im fuckin around with my boy 81...inside joke....he thinks I'm this Ivy league hipster. Can I get your lawyer opinion on this though?

you might have been joking here, but your past actions follow you.

Season Ticket Sales Office Miscommunication for PJ20 Weekend

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