Explanation of Ten Club tickets vs. regular tickets

usamamasan1 · May 2011

death to fan club seniority. I have been going to shows for 20 years now but my number sucks.

PillowPants · May 2011

usamamasan1 wrote:

death to fan club seniority. I have been going to shows for 20 years now but my number sucks.

pretty sure it's not our fault that you suck at organization

Nickrand · May 2011

titchinello wrote:

ahh i'm glad in europe its general admission, that way its free for all. fair enough theres a lot of pushing and shoving, but in my opionion much better than being stuck in a chair.

I like both experiences. In the USA, it's nice not to have to spend the day waiting to get in. More relaxing and easier to enjoy the music. At general admission shows, there's more camaraderie with fellow fan club members and the experience of being up front is special and addicting.

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

josevolution wrote:

Calling Redmosquito22 this threads needs your input :P People are talking %%'s

Just to clear this up. According to an email I received from the 10 club when asking this question before the MSG2 show in 2010, they get anywhere from 12% to 20% of the tickets for pre-sales depending depending on the venue.

There ya go josevolution. hahahahahahaha

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

titchinello wrote:

ahh i'm glad in europe its general admission, that way its free for all. fair enough theres a lot of pushing and shoving, but in my opionion much better than being stuck in a chair.

I've never been stuck in a chair.

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

megatron wrote:

DEReam13 wrote:

acutejam wrote:

But one thing I can't stress enough -- you get to sit with 10C fans! You get to sit with fans that ARE THERE FOR THE MUSIC. Sure a few are swapped out, but for the most part, I've had WAY more fun sitting in 10C nosebleeds than dealing with bozos up close.

This is an outstanding point. I agree whole-heartily. We stand, jump and dance through the shows. No need to be near the talkers, complainers and sitters.

i got 10club tix for the spectrum. last row next to a bunch of awful people complaining about them not "rocking enough"
not complaining..just saying

That's because it wasn't a real Philly crowd.

Lost In Ohio · May 2011

Wilds wrote:

Ten Club always tries for the best seats they can get, but that doesn't mean they are the best in the house.

I think the % of tickets the generally get is around 10%.

So in a 20,000 seat arena they would have 2000 tickets, or 1000 pairs.

Yes when the first 1000 Ten Club members claim those 1000 pairs they are out and the Ten Club does not have anymore.

Now why don't they get the best seats?

Well it depends on what the venue says. For example it is very common for many venues to issue season tickets to individuals. That means that "you" for example could have season tickets to every show at the Santa Barbara Bowl.

Those seats are usually good seats and expensive, but they are guaranteed to those fans, and thus not a part of the Ten Club allocation.

If those fans decide not to go then those seats can be released.

Also the venue and Ticketmaster, and the band usually hold some of the best seats in the house for the last minute for VIP types who get them. Those tickets are released before showtime and become available to the lucky few.

Sometimes Pearl Jam gets more than 10% of the venue tickets, but through negotiation the 'extra' seats might not be that good.

So if you have a higher ten club number then you might get stuck with Ten Club seats that are not that good.

As a whole Ten Club seats kick ass. But of course the worst ones are not always great. And sometimes through luck or otherwise Ticketmaster seats can be amazing.

There is no strict rule to it all though.

In addition....

Rows 1, 2, 9 and 10 are reserved for random allocation. These go to 10 club members at total random. It's RUMORED that a few of these seats are saved for VIPs, but no one knows for sure.

You can win row 1 and row 9 at two straight shows, or you can go zero for thirty... it's totally random.

In addition to that... It's believed that if the band is playing in YOUR hometown, then you get a little bit of a boost towards the front of the stage.

After being in 10 Club for seven years, I got 16th row, practically dead center...in my hometown. I can guarantee you that in any other city, i'd be further back, assuming a lottery loss.

Plus, day and city have something to do with it as well. I'm sure Buffalo on a Tuesday is a lot easier than a major city like LA, Chicago, NYC, or Boston on a Saturday night. People travel in fucking mass numbers to these shows like crazy.

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

KL40564 wrote:

As the others said, it is an interesting crap shoot of sorts. In 98, I got second row center with my ten club seats... it was amazing.

Yet, ten years later (with ten years of seniority under my belt) we got horrible seats far away.

So, think of it like this. It isn't necessarily better seats... but you get access to onsale before the general public (scalpers) do.

That's because in 1998 it wasn't seniority based. They were blocks of tickets and if you showed up early you got better seats.

Lost In Ohio · May 2011

RedMosquito22 wrote:

KL40564 wrote:

As the others said, it is an interesting crap shoot of sorts. In 98, I got second row center with my ten club seats... it was amazing.

Yet, ten years later (with ten years of seniority under my belt) we got horrible seats far away.

So, think of it like this. It isn't necessarily better seats... but you get access to onsale before the general public (scalpers) do.

That's because in 1998 it wasn't seniority based. They were blocks of tickets and if you showed up early you got better seats.

Even in 2003, they had a system where it was seniority based with better seats in that block if you sent your order in quicker. Either that OR the other way around...first people in got into the better blocks, but people within those blocks were sorted by seniority.

I think it was the first way, but i'm not sure.

jamburger · May 2011

Lost In Ohio wrote:

Even in 2003, they had a system where it was seniority based with better seats in that block if you sent your order in quicker. Either that OR the other way around...first people in got into the better blocks, but people within those blocks were sorted by seniority.

I think it was the first way, but i'm not sure.

Semi-seniority based. Day of show you lined up within a block of 10 club numbers (example: BLOCK 1= member #000001-100000, BLOCK 2= member #100001-200000, etc.). Each block got a stack of tickets and they distributed off the top.

So, member #092145 who got to the venue at noon and got on the BLOCK 1 line, got better seats than member #000002 who got to the venue and on line at 5:00PM.

These tickets were better seats than anyone in BLOCK 2 or BLOCK 3.

The only two shows in 2003 that were 100% seniority based were the MSG shows. There was no place to line up outside the Garden and tickets were distributed out of a local hotel conference area. Tickets were pre-enveloped like they are today. The same row of people who sat behind me on the floor during night one, sat behind me on the side of the stage on night two.

titchinello · May 2011

RedMosquito22 wrote:

titchinello wrote:

ahh i'm glad in europe its general admission, that way its free for all. fair enough theres a lot of pushing and shoving, but in my opionion much better than being stuck in a chair.

I've never been stuck in a chair.

sorry, what i really meant was restricted to the area you were allocated, if you get what i meant,( so if you got near front was ok, but stuck at the back, when you'd rather be up front, then that sucks), didn't mean that you just sat for the show, obviously should get up and rock the fuck out.

marc34 · May 2011

I can say that living in a major city (Boston)that has become a destination trip for many fans definatly has its disadvantages. No complaints from me but I have a pretty good fan club number(150xxx).Back when you could only get tickets to one show i was sitting in the second row center in mansfield that was in 98. In 2010, i sit in the 17th or 18th row. Once agajn no complaints but now that you can by multiple shows people with better 10c numbers than me have pushed me back. If i was just joining the 10c now i think i would rather take my chances with ticketmaster to get tickets. Too many members now, you would probably get better seats elsewhere. Also depends on where you live. Im sure at a smaller midwest venue i could sit first 3 rows but not in boston or new york.

mike-mcfuckin-cready · May 2011

marc34 wrote:

I can say that living in a major city (Boston)that has become a destination trip for many fans definatly has its disadvantages. No complaints from me but I have a pretty good fan club number(150xxx).Back when you could only get tickets to one show i was sitting in the second row center in mansfield that was in 98. In 2010, i sit in the 17th or 18th row. Once agajn no complaints but now that you can by multiple shows people with better 10c numbers than me have pushed me back. If i was just joining the 10c now i think i would rather take my chances with ticketmaster to get tickets. Too many members now, you would probably get better seats elsewhere. Also depends on where you live. Im sure at a smaller midwest venue i could sit first 3 rows but not in boston or new york.

def agree with what youre saying about boston and nyc! add philly to that list too! damn hard

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

marc34 wrote:

I can say that living in a major city (Boston)that has become a destination trip for many fans definatly has its disadvantages. No complaints from me but I have a pretty good fan club number(150xxx).Back when you could only get tickets to one show i was sitting in the second row center in mansfield that was in 98. In 2010, i sit in the 17th or 18th row. Once agajn no complaints but now that you can by multiple shows people with better 10c numbers than me have pushed me back. If i was just joining the 10c now i think i would rather take my chances with ticketmaster to get tickets. Too many members now, you would probably get better seats elsewhere. Also depends on where you live. Im sure at a smaller midwest venue i could sit first 3 rows but not in boston or new york.

Same here. Philly and NY for me now have pushed me to about row 15 in philly and 1st few rows sidestage in NYC(which I loved actually. Would much rather be there. You are right though going to a show that isn't a travel destination definitely gets you closer.

Zod · May 2011

It does seem with each passing tour the 10c has a harder and harder time dealing with ticketmaster and the vanues (which are mostly under contract with clear channel).

I think the 10% rule has been around for about 10 years now, but 10c managed to find ways around it for the first few tours after it was implements (but now seem to struggle alot more with it). Ticketmaster also doesn't like to give out the best tickets in the house, for other fan clubs, they scatter the tickets, so I think the 10c is probably struggling with that.

That being said if they'res 2000 tickets. 50 tickets a row, and you have a newer fan club number. You're talking 40 rows back on the floor, or maybe up in the wings?

RedMosquito22 · May 2011

Zod wrote:

I think the 10% rule has been around for about 10 years now,

12-20%

nc_jammer1 · May 2011

Been to four shows have never used TC for tickets,...think I joined sometime in 2005.
I'm praying for good TC tickets in Edmonton,.. hoping you guys are right about the small market thing. In 2005 we had 19th row floor from TM

Fatal · May 2011

I think i went thru Ticketmaster for my 98 and 00 shows...seats were not great except for Barrie which was a GA show.

My 10C tickets have always been good seats but not great. I've never been on the floor, but usually 3-5 rows up one section from the side of the stage. IMO these are much better seats than being in the back half of the floor (i've been on the floor for lots of other shows)....

Cheo Ramirez · May 2011

number 41xxxx

one tc tickets:

cruzan amphitheatre: not bad

reservead seats at alpine 10,000 lawn is 27000

if (12-20%) like 15%, its only 1500, 750 pairs for 250,000 (guess the half 10 c members dont want these tkt) 0.3% get tickets?

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