Americans agree: The rich should pay higher taxes

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    The Fixer wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    good point...perhaps we should do away will all social programs....

    I'm sure that will work out well...

    the sense of entitlement in this country is disgusting

    agreed...do away with those disgusting entitlement programs and the US will become the Utopia we all seek...

    right...?
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    inmytree wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    good point...perhaps we should do away will all social programs....

    I'm sure that will work out well...

    the sense of entitlement in this country is disgusting

    agreed...do away with those disgusting entitlement programs and the US will become the Utopia we all seek...

    right...?

    all I'm saying is that some people manipulate those systems and take advantage of said programs. as a taxpayer I have a problem with that. there should be guidelines in place to assure that those benefitting from these programs are deserving of the assistance they receive.

    any unemployed crackhead that gets knocked up expects govt assistance. that ain't right. the rich shouldn't have to fund that type of bullshit
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The Fixer wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the sense of entitlement in this country is disgusting

    agreed...do away with those disgusting entitlement programs and the US will become the Utopia we all seek...

    right...?

    all I'm saying is that some people manipulate those systems and take advantage of said programs. as a taxpayer I have a problem with that. there should be guidelines in place to assure that those benefitting from these programs are deserving of the assistance they receive.

    any unemployed crackhead that gets knocked up expects govt assistance. that ain't right. the rich shouldn't have to fund that type of bullshit
    Because the rich are so much better as a group of people... :roll:
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    agreed...do away with those disgusting entitlement programs and the US will become the Utopia we all seek...

    right...?

    all I'm saying is that some people manipulate those systems and take advantage of said programs. as a taxpayer I have a problem with that. there should be guidelines in place to assure that those benefitting from these programs are deserving of the assistance they receive.

    any unemployed crackhead that gets knocked up expects govt assistance. that ain't right. the rich shouldn't have to fund that type of bullshit
    Because the rich are so much better as a group of people... :roll:

    do you think the welfare and unemployment programs work well?

    I'm guessing you think people deserve more handout programs
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Because the rich are so much better as a group of people... :roll:

    Thank you!!! Finally, someone on this thread giving us the recognition we deserve*

    * And by we I'm talking about the middle class that was originally defined as rich by the Obama gang.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    The Fixer wrote:

    all I'm saying is that some people manipulate those systems and take advantage of said programs. as a taxpayer I have a problem with that. there should be guidelines in place to assure that those benefitting from these programs are deserving of the assistance they receive.

    any unemployed crackhead that gets knocked up expects govt assistance. that ain't right. the rich shouldn't have to fund that type of bullshit

    I agree...I don't like it either...but just because some abuse the system doesn't mean all you utilize the system are lazy crackheads...
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    "Equality of opportunity has been on the decline..."

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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    edited May 2011
    _ wrote:


    he books most of his income from capital gains...if he wanted to no one would stop him from paying more...but it is easy to say raise income tax levels when all your income comes from capital gains...Don't hear raise capital gains taxes higher...wonder why that is?
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    inmytree wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    all I'm saying is that some people manipulate those systems and take advantage of said programs. as a taxpayer I have a problem with that. there should be guidelines in place to assure that those benefitting from these programs are deserving of the assistance they receive.

    any unemployed crackhead that gets knocked up expects govt assistance. that ain't right. the rich shouldn't have to fund that type of bullshit

    I agree...I don't like it either...but just because some abuse the system doesn't mean all you utilize the system are lazy crackheads...

    which is why I brought up drug/alcohol testing 5 posts ago :?

    I knew you'd come around and see the light
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    So Fixer, you're going to take this thread and try to turn it around to make it look like those who need assistance are bad guys, huh? Really? Address the topic. The rich should pay more taxes because they can.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    _ wrote:


    he books most of his income from capital gains...if he wanted to no one would stop him from paying more...but it is easy to say raise income tax levels when all your income comes from capital gains...Don't hear raise capital gains taxes higher...wonder why that is?

    That's not the point. The point is that the system isn't fair and the way it's represented is inaccurate.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    _ wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    _ wrote:


    he books most of his income from capital gains...if he wanted to no one would stop him from paying more...but it is easy to say raise income tax levels when all your income comes from capital gains...Don't hear raise capital gains taxes higher...wonder why that is?

    That's not the point. The point is that the system isn't fair and the way it's represented is inaccurate.


    he should then tell people how he avoids paying income taxes shouldn't he? It is always easy to talk about someone else's money...and Buffett is no different... if income taxes were raised he would still be paying roughly the same because capital gains isn't going anywhere...clinton knew enough to lower it, bush knew enough to lower it further...it is double taxation...why do we continually need to give them more?

    so shouldn't he really be saying that capital gains taxes should be increased? do you believe you should punish people for actively punishing people for investing their money?
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jeanwah wrote:
    So Fixer, you're going to take this thread and try to turn it around to make it look like those who need assistance are bad guys, huh? Really? Address the topic. The rich should pay more taxes because they can.

    some of them...yes.

    I completely disagree with the premise of penalizing the successful by making them pay more because 'they can.' what's the point of earning more money if it's only going to be taken away from you?

    this argument could go on forever. those who don't make a lot of money will always want and expect the rich to pay for other people's problems. we're getting nowhere.

    all I said was I want to keep as much of my earnings as possible. and those on social handout programs should be tested to make sure they are doing something to better their situation...not just enjoy a free ride at the expense of those working hard and abiding by the rules.

    I am a registered independent, and because of this tax nonsense I will most likely be forced to vote GOP (again) in the next election regardless of who the candidate is. call me whatever you want, but I want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    So Fixer, you're going to take this thread and try to turn it around to make it look like those who need assistance are bad guys, huh? Really? Address the topic. The rich should pay more taxes because they can.

    some of them...yes.

    I completely disagree with the premise of penalizing the successful by making them pay more because 'they can.' what's the point of earning more money if it's only going to be taken away from you?

    this argument could go on forever. those who don't make a lot of money will always want and expect the rich to pay for other people's problems. we're getting nowhere.

    all I said was I want to keep as much of my earnings as possible. and those on social handout programs should be tested to make sure they are doing something to better their situation...not just enjoy a free ride at the expense of those working hard and abiding by the rules.

    I am a registered independent, and because of this tax nonsense I will most likely be forced to vote GOP (again) in the next election regardless of who the candidate is. call me whatever you want, but I want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    So Fixer, you're going to take this thread and try to turn it around to make it look like those who need assistance are bad guys, huh? Really? Address the topic. The rich should pay more taxes because they can.

    some of them...yes.

    I completely disagree with the premise of penalizing the successful by making them pay more because 'they can.' what's the point of earning more money if it's only going to be taken away from you?

    this argument could go on forever. those who don't make a lot of money will always want and expect the rich to pay for other people's problems. we're getting nowhere.

    all I said was I want to keep as much of my earnings as possible. and those on social handout programs should be tested to make sure they are doing something to better their situation...not just enjoy a free ride at the expense of those working hard and abiding by the rules.

    I am a registered independent, and because of this tax nonsense I will most likely be forced to vote GOP (again) in the next election regardless of who the candidate is. call me whatever you want, but I want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.

    It's not greed to sit on your couch all day not looking for a job and asking for someone else's money? Street goes 2 ways. At least one of them earned it.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    So Fixer, you're going to take this thread and try to turn it around to make it look like those who need assistance are bad guys, huh? Really? Address the topic. The rich should pay more taxes because they can.

    some of them...yes.

    I completely disagree with the premise of penalizing the successful by making them pay more because 'they can.' what's the point of earning more money if it's only going to be taken away from you?

    this argument could go on forever. those who don't make a lot of money will always want and expect the rich to pay for other people's problems. we're getting nowhere.

    all I said was I want to keep as much of my earnings as possible. and those on social handout programs should be tested to make sure they are doing something to better their situation...not just enjoy a free ride at the expense of those working hard and abiding by the rules.

    I am a registered independent, and because of this tax nonsense I will most likely be forced to vote GOP (again) in the next election regardless of who the candidate is. call me whatever you want, but I want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.

    call it what you want. I go to work every day to make money for my familiy, not to help others. If I want to help someone I will donate to a charity or do volunteer work. I should have the option to do whatever I want with my money (you know, since I earned it)
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Jeanwah wrote:

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.

    It's not greed to sit on your couch all day not looking for a job and asking for someone else's money? Street goes 2 ways. At least one of them earned it.

    And you still want to focus on the less fortunate.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    some of them...yes.

    I completely disagree with the premise of penalizing the successful by making them pay more because 'they can.' what's the point of earning more money if it's only going to be taken away from you?

    this argument could go on forever. those who don't make a lot of money will always want and expect the rich to pay for other people's problems. we're getting nowhere.

    all I said was I want to keep as much of my earnings as possible. and those on social handout programs should be tested to make sure they are doing something to better their situation...not just enjoy a free ride at the expense of those working hard and abiding by the rules.

    I am a registered independent, and because of this tax nonsense I will most likely be forced to vote GOP (again) in the next election regardless of who the candidate is. call me whatever you want, but I want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.

    call it what you want. I go to work every day to make money for my familiy, not to help others. If I want to help someone I will donate to a charity or do volunteer work. I should have the option to do whatever I want with my money (you know, since I earned it)

    I have a feeling you probably wouldn't ever give money to charity. Way to go, big boy.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:

    It's not penalizing. It was a way of life up til Reagan changed things.
    Your focus on those who need assistance to get by rather than taking a look at yourself and the greed you output here by wanting as much as possible only for yourself speaks volumes.

    It's not greed to sit on your couch all day not looking for a job and asking for someone else's money? Street goes 2 ways. At least one of them earned it.

    And you still want to focus on the less fortunate.

    Yes. Why wouldn't a prudent person look at their necessary expenses first?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.