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When was the first time Ed played a guitar live with PJ?

FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
edited May 2011 in The Porch
I know Ed played a bit of guitar with Bad Radio, but I'm curious as to when he started breaking out and playing guitar with Pearl Jam live onstage. I remember him having a bash at My Generation at Newcastle Riverside, on Mike's Strat I think, in February 1992. And I've seen a clip of him playing Redemption Song at Roskilde 1992 on something that looks a bit like a Danelectro. It wasn't until the summer of 1993 and the first performances of Vs songs that I saw the black tele make an appearance. Someone's bound to know the answer to this one here. My reason for wanting to know? Purely idle curiosity.

Maybe a Gearhead would know, but I chanced The Porch. 8-)
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I don't believe he played guitar on Porch during the Ten tour, but I think by the time Vs. came around he did on RVM and Small Town
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,965
    The official song list on this site says that Better Man, Rearviewmirror, and Whipping were all debuted on 5-13-93, so it's likely that's the first show where Ed plays guitar. Small Town was debuted a month later.
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  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    I remember the first time I seen him play a guitar was on SNL in 1994, I think Not For You was the first song they played on that episode.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJf2S-yRP0 I saw this live, so this is the first Ed guitar I witnessed. I'm wondering if some time between the OffRamp in October 1990 and the first European Ten Tour in February 1992, a guitar made an appearance.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Wow! I've never seen that. I think we have a winner.
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    didn't he play patriot at the 92 bridge school show?

    i guess technically that wasn't "with" pj since he played it alone..
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The official song list on this site says that Better Man, Rearviewmirror, and Whipping were all debuted on 5-13-93, so it's likely that's the first show where Ed plays guitar. Small Town was debuted a month later.

    Wasn't it when they played on Letterman or does that not count.
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The official song list on this site says that Better Man, Rearviewmirror, and Whipping were all debuted on 5-13-93, so it's likely that's the first show where Ed plays guitar. Small Town was debuted a month later.

    Wasn't it when they played on Letterman or does that not count.

    First time on Letterman was '96 when they played Hail, Hail right?

    I don't know if we'll find anything that beats that '92 clip.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    edited May 2011
    I may be thinking of SNL then for Vs.. They played rearviewmirror. I think that was the first time I saw him play guitar. I could be wrong though.
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    I may be thinking of SNL then for Vs.

    Yeah probably so. They played SNL in '94 and Ed was on guitar for Not For You and RVM.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    I may be thinking of SNL then for Vs.

    Yeah probably so. They played SNL in '94 and Ed was on guitar for Not For You and RVM.

    It was daughter and Rearviewmirror that year though.

    Not for you was when they played for Vitalogy.
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    I may be thinking of SNL then for Vs.

    Yeah probably so. They played SNL in '94 and Ed was on guitar for Not For You and RVM.

    It was daughter and Rearviewmirror that year though.

    Not for you was when they played for Vitalogy.

    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast. Not For You was played even though it was months before Vitalogy came out. This was all one episode, so there weren't separate shows for Vs. and Vitalogy. It was the week Cobain died - remember at the very end Ed showing the 'K' drawn over his heart during the closing credits? They didn't play SNL again after that until Avocado.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,965
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast..

    I'm pretty sure that RVM did appear on the original broadcast but is edited out of reruns for time.
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast..

    I'm pretty sure that RVM did appear on the original broadcast but is edited out of reruns for time.

    That might be right. But they did play all 3 songs in the one episode. I believe it's the only time a musical guest has played 3 songs.
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  • RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    edited May 2011
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast. Not For You was played even though it was months before Vitalogy came out. This was all one episode, so there weren't separate shows for Vs. and Vitalogy. It was the week Cobain died - remember at the very end Ed showing the 'K' drawn over his heart during the closing credits? They didn't play SNL again after that until Avocado.

    You are right except that all 3 aired(at least in Philly), because I just checked my old VCR tape and I have all 3 on that tape from when I recorded that SNL episode. I didn't realize that Not for You was that night as well until I looked. Regardless, that night was the first time I saw him play guitar.

    That's right it is all starting to come back to me. I remember them being the first band to ever play 3 songs on one episode of SNL.
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast. Not For You was played even though it was months before Vitalogy came out. This was all one episode, so there weren't separate shows for Vs. and Vitalogy. It was the week Cobain died - remember at the very end Ed showing the 'K' drawn over his heart during the closing credits? They didn't play SNL again after that until Avocado.

    You are right except that all 3 aired(at least in Philly), because I just checked my old VCR tape and I have all 3 on that tape from when I recorded that SNL episode. I didn't realize that Not for You was that night as well until I looked. Regardless, that night was the first time I saw him play guitar.

    Yeah I have an old VHS of that show too. Don't have a VCR anymore though. That episode was amazing. Might be my favorite version of Not For You. Ed is so haunting that night. The Daughter tag was great too. You can see rehearsals on youtube also.
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    Citizen Zack wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast..

    I'm pretty sure that RVM did appear on the original broadcast but is edited out of reruns for time.

    That might be right. But they did play all 3 songs in the one episode. I believe it's the only time a musical guest has played 3 songs.

    Yeah they for sure showed all 3 songs on the original broadcast. I remember being very excited that they played 3 songs when I was only expecting 2.
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  • reedrothchildreedrothchild Posts: 609
    probably early 1992... he used to grab a guitar and strum along during those epic ive got a feeling jams. there's great video of ed and his brother on stage during an epic IGAF jam in den haag from that time.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,965
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast..

    I'm pretty sure that RVM did appear on the original broadcast but is edited out of reruns for time.

    That might be right. But they did play all 3 songs in the one episode. I believe it's the only time a musical guest has played 3 songs.

    I could be mistaken but I think U2 and Paul McCartney have both played 3 songs in one episode since then. In fact, McCartney actually played four songs because he played 'Get Back' over the end credits.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I know U2 did. The played "I Will Follow" over the end credits. I'm sure you guys will call me a liar, but Bono did this thing where he looks down into the camera, brings it up and sexes the camera while he's looking right into it and the...PSSSHHH up in the air the camera goes while he yells.
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  • Mamasan23Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    They played Not For You, Daughter, and RVM that year. RVM didn't air on the broadcast. Not For You was played even though it was months before Vitalogy came out. This was all one episode, so there weren't separate shows for Vs. and Vitalogy. It was the week Cobain died - remember at the very end Ed showing the 'K' drawn over his heart during the closing credits? They didn't play SNL again after that until Avocado.

    You are right except that all 3 aired(at least in Philly), because I just checked my old VCR tape and I have all 3 on that tape from when I recorded that SNL episode. I didn't realize that Not for You was that night as well until I looked. Regardless, that night was the first time I saw him play guitar.

    Yeah I have an old VHS of that show too. Don't have a VCR anymore though. That episode was amazing. Might be my favorite version of Not For You. Ed is so haunting that night. The Daughter tag was great too. You can see rehearsals on youtube also.

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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Best SNL episode ever IMHO. A major highlight of mine: Operaman singing "Oh hey-o Operaman's a huge Pearl Jam fan-o!!" :lol::lol: So good!

    Love operaman! "Eddie Vedder's so much better looking in person! I'm not saying I'm gay, there just comes a time in every man's life where he questions his sexuality!"

    Classic :lol:
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    Citizen Zack wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Best SNL episode ever IMHO. A major highlight of mine: Operaman singing "Oh hey-o Operaman's a huge Pearl Jam fan-o!!" :lol::lol: So good!

    Love operaman! "Eddie Vedder's so much better looking in person! I'm not saying I'm gay, there just comes a time in every man's life where he questions his sexuality!"

    Classic :lol:

    Not the same episode, but also SNL... Rock for Michael was also a freakin' classic. Adam Sandler doing Ed was awesome.

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  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    reedrothchild wrote:
    probably early 1992... he used to grab a guitar and strum along during those epic ive got a feeling jams. there's great video of ed and his brother on stage during an epic IGAF jam in den haag from that time.
    I love that version so much. its incredible.
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