Canadian Conservative Party Supporters

We'll be even more awesome if we can pull our heads out of our collective asses and vote in a Conservative Majority on Monday. Then we can let Mr Harper get back to work, and I can start my class action lawsuit against the Liberals for wasting $300 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY ON A VOTE THAT WAS NOT NEEDED. How many social programs would that have paid for?


JEEZUS-CHRIST-BANANAS.

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Lone Drawn Meteor wrote:

We'll be even more awesome if we can pull our heads out of our collective asses and vote in a Conservative Majority on Monday. Then we can let Mr Harper get back to work, and I can start my class action lawsuit against the Liberals for wasting $300 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY ON A VOTE THAT WAS NOT NEEDED. How many social programs would that have paid for?


JEEZUS-CHRIST-BANANAS.

If this isn't sarcasm then I'm wondering if you could answer my inital question (first post). I've yet to find a conservative supporter who is willing to answer that question.

didn't you get the memo straight from the PMO ... conservatives don't answer questions ...

Op-Ed

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editoria ... management

Over the past four weeks, Stephen Harper has repeatedly told Canadians that the Conservatives are the “best economic managers” on offer, and that their “stewardship” is why Canada’s economy bounced back strongly from the global financial crisis.

There are good reasons for Canadians to be skeptical of these claims and even more reasons to be worried about what a continuation of Conservative economic policies will mean for Canada’s future.

The Conservatives cannot claim much credit for Canada’s economic success of the past decade. The surge in our natural exports has been due largely to the spike in commodity prices driven by rising natural resource demand and dwindling supplies.

Even before the latest round of corporate tax cuts, Canada’s oil, gas and natural resource exports nearly had doubled in value in recent years, and now more than 25 per cent of Canada’s economy is directly or indirectly tied to the mining and oil and gas industries, even more so in Alberta and Newfoundland and Labrador, where oil and gas account for nearly 40 per cent of provincial GDP.

It was also because of the Conservatives’ sheer luck — not economic management — that Canada did not suffer a financial crisis and end up like the United States or many countries in Western Europe.

Canada’s banks were better regulated than those in other countries. However, if not for parliamentary committees asking questions, Canadian banks were just as ready to engage in the risky financial activities that would later put the world economy on the brink of collapse. Even so, the Bank of Canada had to purchase more than $35 billion in bad mortgages from the banks, as well as “toxic” assets leveraged by corporate CEOs and worthless corporate debt.

Nor have Harper’s policies helped us much in getting through the global economic crisis. Over the last two years, all levels of government made commitments of approximately $13 billion in new capital investment to stabilize our economy. But the reality has been far more irresponsible.

As the office of the parliamentary budget officer reported in December, the federal government has in fact only allocated $4 billion so far. Less than 30 per cent of projects have been completed; more than a quarter have failed to report any progress.

Now the federal government has removed another $1 billion in stimulus investment spending, reducing the total to $10 billion or less than 0.4 per cent of annual GDP — far below the 2 per cent of GDP that other G20 countries committed to.

Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize winning economist at Columbia University, has recently claimed that the financial crisis of 2008-2009 should have been the Western world’s wake-up call.

Just as the collapse of the Berlin Wall in 1989 revealed the failures of communism, Stiglitz argues that the financial crisis has highlighted just as bluntly the failures of market fundamentalism — tax cuts that have wrecked economies, banking deregulation that has bankrupted companies, chronic financial collapses that have saddled countries with billions in debt.

Nevertheless, the Conservatives have continued to deny the magnitude of the problems facing Canada and the global economy. Once again, they are putting forward the same market fundamentalist policies that have taken countries time and again to the brink of economic disaster:

• Tax cuts that will benefit the wealthiest and boost corporations’ bottom lines, but do nothing to spur investment in manufacturing or increase the growth of full-time jobs.

• “Cost efficiency savings” that will mean the roughly 80,000 federal public sector workers retiring over the next four years will not be replaced and that cash-strapped provinces will have to cut 4 per cent or more of provincial budgets for the next four years — a total estimated by the OECD to exceed $50 billion.

• “Smaller government” that will mean fewer public services and that Canada will continue to have one of the worst records of rising inequality and poverty in North America and Western Europe.

• An “economic plan” that includes scant reference to jobs and provides no indication of a constructive approach to tackling the disappearance of manufacturing jobs in Canada. Meanwhile, more than 50 per cent of Canadians are now classified as “low wage” — a level that even the OECD considers “disturbing.”

Memories are indeed short. However, if Canadians are looking for sound economic management and growth based on solid foundations, then very different policies are needed than those on offer by the Harper Conservatives.

At a minimum, it will mean measures that ensure the vast majority of citizens share the fruits of growth, and new regulatory structures that keep finance in check and promote stability. With so much at stake, truly effective public policies will require a different government — one that is actually concerned with managing the economy with the future interests of all Canadians in mind.

John Peters is a professor in the department of political science at Laurentian University.

MrAbraham wrote:

I just got a phone call, some lady telling me to vote for the Conservatives, because they are the best, they want to help families, and she also mentioned how Canada is the envy of the world right now because of Harper, she then asked if I knew that?

I had no idea! Canada is the envy of the word, that's awesome. CANADA! CANADA! CANADA! :P

You were fed a lot of propaganda on the evny during that phone call. Truthfully, right now Canada is the eye sore of the world because of the oil sands.

zarocat wrote:

MrAbraham wrote:

I just got a phone call, some lady telling me to vote for the Conservatives, because they are the best, they want to help families, and she also mentioned how Canada is the envy of the world right now because of Harper, she then asked if I knew that?

I had no idea! Canada is the envy of the word, that's awesome. CANADA! CANADA! CANADA! :P

You were fed a lot of propaganda on the evny during that phone call. Truthfully, right now Canada is the eye sore of the world because of the oil sands.

Well aren't you a real debbie downer...here I thought we were awesome... :? :? :?

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

If this isn't sarcasm then I'm wondering if you could answer my inital question (first post). I've yet to find a conservative supporter who is willing to answer that question.

Before I begin, let me ask a question. How many 3-piece suits and Italian loafers do you ever see at a protest?
Answer: NONE. People with money don't protest because they know it's a waste of time and money. Besides, after they vote Conservative, they can get into their fully-paid-for Prius and head over to the Organic Coffee Shoppe and afford themselves a pound of Fair Trade Dark Roast made from beans that ferment in the belly of an endangered wildcat found in the misty mountains of Guatemala which they brew back at their 3000 sq. ft. condo and toast their intelligence and wealth.

There has been no scandal that would make me think a Liberal or NDP government is preferable to a Conservative government. I don't care how many dread-locked peaceniks got their right to protest revoked and thrown in jail during the G8/G20; I don't care WHERE the money came from to hire all the extra police who threw those hippies in the paddy wagons; I ESPECIALLY don't care which Member of Parliament's wife-to-be used to be an escort. Hell, even Bev Oda and the KAIRO funding cuts would have been on page 18 below the cut, and disappeared the next day if the Opposition hadn't already smelled blood.

The Conservatives have been doing their job and have kept Canada running in the black. Are they giving tax cuts to big corporations? ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ECONOMICS 101. (You notice none of the opposition remember to mention that there's also been over 80 tax cuts for us little guys over the last 3 years, too.) Funding cuts for social programs so we can buy 9 F-35's at $9 BILLION? YES, PLEASE! Having big corporations and a state-of-the-art military keeps Canada as a strong global power, which is needed if we want to keep growing our way of life. I hope that one day we don't need soldiers, but until that day comes, I want the brave men and women who do that job to have the best arsenal available to keep them safe. Don't you?

The Conservatives believe that money earned should be kept in the individual's pocket and that we as individuals are smart enough to spend our own money. In my household, we give to charity on a monthly basis, and it comes right off our paycheck. When we make less money, whether from a tax increase, or our car needing repair, or vet bills, the amount goes down. This is a micro-example of how the Conservative Government works. They will spend everything they can based on how much they have coming in or going out to other places at any given time. When something comes up, like a GLOBAL ECONOMIC RECESSION, plans must change in order to keep the budget balanced. Tough choices are made and funds are cut to LESS essential programs (If ALL programs could be funded, there would be no government. We would be living in a utopia).

I think the Liberals are fairly close to the Conservatives on many points, I'd like to see them staunch that bleeding-heart vein and take a pill to relax all that flip-floppiness. No examples needed. You've stated some past doings in previous posts.
NDP? Fuuuuu--- it's like, dude. We WHAT?!?!? We got a whole county? How are we going to pay for it? Do you accept Canadian Express? NDP is all about the buy buy buy NOW NOW NOW. But ask them how they're going to pick up the check… Now there's a political stonewall NO-ONE could climb over.

I hope I answered your question.

Please vote Conservative on Monday. Then go to your nearest ATM and check your balance. If you voted Conservative, add 15% to your balance. Vote Liberal? Minus 20%. Vote NDP? Burn the bank to the ground. Game over. The mice are running the cheese factory.

yup ... it's that myth of economics ... how the heck are we in the black!?? ... we've got a record defecit!?? ... it's one thing to believe in some reaganomics here but to think we are in the black is just delusional ...

i'm gonna say even odds that dude here works for the conservative gov't in one form or another ...

anyhoo - today is the big day!! ... anything but a harper majority ... please!! ...

2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.

I'm still not convinced about Quebec...in the end they are always more concerned about themselves.

lukin2006 wrote:

2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.

I'm still not convinced about Quebec...in the end they are always more concerned about themselves.

not sure on the laws on polling results ...

i think there will be significant change in quebec ... i think quebecers/sovereignists realize the bloc is a useless entity in ottawa ... the fight is in quebec city not ottawa ... they have voted the bloc in because of leftist policies - might as well vote ndp and have the same representation at the federal level ...

we shall see ... it sounds like it'll be an exciting night either way ...

1 more point...there should be the option of none of the above on the ballot, and those who choose not 2 vote have that right...people may not like it...but I know a few people like myself who feel that none of the corrupt bullshitters deserve a vote.