Drumming on the Orpheum Theater show...

Kanye East
Kanye East Posts: 782
edited April 2011 in The Porch
Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!

I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.

Please dont crush me :D
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  • Spoken
    Spoken Posts: 1,499
    Every PJ drummer is so unique....
    It really is interesting to hear how the sound changes between each guy...
  • Kanye East
    Kanye East Posts: 782
    Spoken wrote:
    Every PJ drummer is so unique....
    It really is interesting to hear how the sound changes between each guy...

    Thats very true. Maybe its just the fact that I'm hearing the drums played a different way. But it seems like there's more going on, and the snare sounds different than Cameron's
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  • Spoken
    Spoken Posts: 1,499
    By the way-
    I got hooked to PJ in '94 when I heard the Atlanta show for the first time...
    You won't hear me complain about Dave A...
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    Matt is pretty boring to my ears; give me a Dave A. show any day.
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  • Red Lukin
    Red Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Matt's a great drummer, but Dave's got this great feel about him that's amazing. Even watching the MTV acoustic set blows me away :shock:
  • petersm69
    petersm69 Posts: 43
    Red Lukin wrote:
    Even watching the MTV acoustic set blows me away :shock:

    The first time i watched the MTV unplugged show my respect doubled for him. In my opinion he's PJ's best. No offence Matty
  • Dedication
    Dedication Posts: 11
    Dave A. for sure. His sound was so much fuller, and his intensity was incredible. I would say Matt is a better technical drummer as far musicianship goes.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    They are both pretty technical. Dave has amazing cymbal work. The Orpheum show is a good example.
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  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Kanye East wrote:
    Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!

    I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.

    Please dont crush me :D

    ...and to think he was fired within a week of this performance.

    But cha gots to do whats you gots to do :D
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,914
    Kanye East wrote:
    Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!

    I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.

    Please dont crush me :D


    The drums are fucking amazing on that show! I can't stop listening to that boot...
  • Edrock78
    Edrock78 Posts: 167
    RedMosquito02 wrote:
    Kanye East wrote:
    Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!

    I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.

    Please dont crush me :D

    ...and to think he was fired within a week of this performance.

    But cha gots to do whats you gots to do :D
    He was actually fired in August.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    I want my damn cd set to arrive!!! :evil: and my soundgarden live on i-5!!!
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Dave played with great style, a bit of funk, and a LOT of contrast. Going from very tight hi-hat and slowly loosening it, then exploding. He also timed his cymbal hits to the guitar changes. Drums were perfectly intertwined with the guitars / Guitars were perfectly intertwined with the drums. It was very symbiotic.

    Listen to Evenflow... a song we all know well. Listen to Dave play it and listen to how it is played by any other drummer. You could do this comparison for pretty much every song Dave played. There's a big difference to be noticed.
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  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Edrock78 wrote:
    RedMosquito02 wrote:
    Kanye East wrote:
    Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!

    I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.

    Please dont crush me :D

    ...and to think he was fired within a week of this performance.

    But cha gots to do whats you gots to do :D
    He was actually fired in August.

    My bad :roll:
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  • BB29347
    BB29347 Posts: 26
    Depends on the song IMO, EG I much prefer RVM with Matt. Listen to the breakdown in RVM on the Orpheum show with Dave - he just kind of plays along repeating the same little pattern over and over.

    It's also a matter of taste. To me Dave's cymbal use gets a bit tiresome in a live show.
  • Glorified Greg
    Glorified Greg Posts: 106
    Orpheum boot is great. Daves drumming is in your face, but IMO immortality just doesn't sound good live with him on drums
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  • ckoke
    ckoke Posts: 63
    My girlfriend and I just received the deluxe box-set, and listened to the Orpheum Theater show Saturday night on vinyl. WOW!!!!!!!! :D

    Back at that time, Pearl Jam was leaps and bounds above every band out there live on stage and in the studio, even over my favorite band, Soundgarden.

    Without a doubt, Pearl Jam was at their best as a unit in the early 90s ('91 to' 94) with Dave Abbruzzese behind the drum-kit. Lots of PJ fans are kidding themselves if they believe otherwise; just listen to the following shows:

    Live at the Orpheum Theater
    The Drop at the Park
    The Fox Theater

    Explosive!!!!!

    When you really look at the entire history of Pearl Jam, Dave A. brought out that special edge to their sound (Neil Peart-like) more effectively than the other great PJ drummers (Cameron, Krusen, Chamberlain, and Irons.)

    We loved the the Orpheum show!!!!
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  • NorthShoreBlues
    NorthShoreBlues Posts: 181
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Dave played with great style, a bit of funk, and a LOT of contrast. Going from very tight hi-hat and slowly loosening it, then exploding. He also timed his cymbal hits to the guitar changes. Drums were perfectly intertwined with the guitars / Guitars were perfectly intertwined with the drums. It was very symbiotic.

    Listen to Evenflow... a song we all know well. Listen to Dave play it and listen to how it is played by any other drummer. You could do this comparison for pretty much every song Dave played. There's a big difference to be noticed.


    Totally agree, Dave A is much more a detailed oriented type of drummer; a small symbol crash hear, a bass drum there. Some of the songs, particularly Even Flow, used to be played at their proper tempos, so maybe Dave had time to do things in between the next vocal line . . .
    the Daughter from this show really illustrates his knack for throwing in different beats; to me Cameron is great, but he seems to gloss over things, to me his playing is more generic; he's got a great and forceful roll that he uses many times from verse to chorus (funny back in the early 90's drummers used to be criticized for that and having a big drum kit- post punk, so-called grunge thing) . . . but I grew up with Dave A. Thats the band I fell for . . .
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  • gndcd402
    gndcd402 Posts: 2,576
    dave had so much more going on and totally knew how to groove much better than matt. my favorite two performances by dave are these:

    atlanta 94 porch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xbV0IG51g
    vegas 93 tremor christ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAHmpnncmT8
  • BB29347
    BB29347 Posts: 26
    ckoke wrote:
    (Neil Peart-like)
    :shock:
    NorthShoreBlues wrote:
    a small symbol crash hear
    Dave may have been good, but there were no small cymbal crashes "here and there". They were everywhere :lol:

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