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Drumming on the Orpheum Theater show...
Kanye East
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Anyone else notice how awesome the drums are for that show? Wow!
I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.
Please dont crush me
I'm a huge Matt Cameron fan, but I think Abbruzzese is better.
Please dont crush me
DC-9/24/96
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
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It really is interesting to hear how the sound changes between each guy...
Thats very true. Maybe its just the fact that I'm hearing the drums played a different way. But it seems like there's more going on, and the snare sounds different than Cameron's
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
I got hooked to PJ in '94 when I heard the Atlanta show for the first time...
You won't hear me complain about Dave A...
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
The first time i watched the MTV unplugged show my respect doubled for him. In my opinion he's PJ's best. No offence Matty
...and to think he was fired within a week of this performance.
But cha gots to do whats you gots to do
The drums are fucking amazing on that show! I can't stop listening to that boot...
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Listen to Evenflow... a song we all know well. Listen to Dave play it and listen to how it is played by any other drummer. You could do this comparison for pretty much every song Dave played. There's a big difference to be noticed.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
My bad :roll:
It's also a matter of taste. To me Dave's cymbal use gets a bit tiresome in a live show.
Quicken Loans Arena - May 20, 2006
Grant Park - Aug 05, 2007
Bonnaroo - Jun 14, 2008
United Center - Aug 23, 2009
Nationwide Arena - May 06, 2010
Quicken Loans Arena - May 09, 2010
Back at that time, Pearl Jam was leaps and bounds above every band out there live on stage and in the studio, even over my favorite band, Soundgarden.
Without a doubt, Pearl Jam was at their best as a unit in the early 90s ('91 to' 94) with Dave Abbruzzese behind the drum-kit. Lots of PJ fans are kidding themselves if they believe otherwise; just listen to the following shows:
Live at the Orpheum Theater
The Drop at the Park
The Fox Theater
Explosive!!!!!
When you really look at the entire history of Pearl Jam, Dave A. brought out that special edge to their sound (Neil Peart-like) more effectively than the other great PJ drummers (Cameron, Krusen, Chamberlain, and Irons.)
We loved the the Orpheum show!!!!
5/20/06 - Cleveland
6/23/06 - Pittsburgh
6/22/08 - Washington DC
5/06/10 - Columbus
7/02/11 - Soundgarden Toronto
9/11/11 - Toronto
9/12/11 - Toronto
5/12/13 - Soundgarden Pittsburgh
10/11/13 - Pittsburgh
7/27/14 - Soundgarden Toronto
11/04/16 - Temple of the Dog - Upper Darby, PA
Totally agree, Dave A is much more a detailed oriented type of drummer; a small symbol crash hear, a bass drum there. Some of the songs, particularly Even Flow, used to be played at their proper tempos, so maybe Dave had time to do things in between the next vocal line . . .
the Daughter from this show really illustrates his knack for throwing in different beats; to me Cameron is great, but he seems to gloss over things, to me his playing is more generic; he's got a great and forceful roll that he uses many times from verse to chorus (funny back in the early 90's drummers used to be criticized for that and having a big drum kit- post punk, so-called grunge thing) . . . but I grew up with Dave A. Thats the band I fell for . . .
2000: Saratoga, Mansfield I & II; 2003: West Palm, Tampa, Mansfield I & II & III; 2004: Boston I & II; 2005: Montreal; 2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I & II, East Rutherford; 2007: Lolla
2008: Tampa, MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield I & II; 2009: Chicago I & II, Philly I, III & IV; 2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford, Boston & MSG II.
atlanta 94 porch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xbV0IG51g
vegas 93 tremor christ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAHmpnncmT8
Dave may have been good, but there were no small cymbal crashes "here and there". They were everywhere
Whoa!!! Thanks for posting those . . .
vegas 93 w/ Dave temor christ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAHmpnncmT8
Japan 95 w/ Jack temor christ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L00xXKL ... re=related
Italy 2006 w/ Matt tremor christ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3ODLhFj ... re=related
Interesting to watch/listen to each Tremor Christ in a row starting with 93 . . . Poor Jack has hardly anything to hit, his drum kit is 1/3 of Dave and Matt's.
Oh man, that Vegas 93 w/ dave sounds sooo good.
:ugeek:
2000: Saratoga, Mansfield I & II; 2003: West Palm, Tampa, Mansfield I & II & III; 2004: Boston I & II; 2005: Montreal; 2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I & II, East Rutherford; 2007: Lolla
2008: Tampa, MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield I & II; 2009: Chicago I & II, Philly I, III & IV; 2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford, Boston & MSG II.
Love the Rats/Blood/Release ending to the main set.
The drums were the first thing that stood out for me on this album. Absolutely amazing. This is fast becoming my favourite live PJ recording.
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dave is the sh**t!!! i love his drumming, he is a hard hitter and plays along with the guitar, so unique! cymbal-wise he is outstanding - timing is terrific. i love the unplugged drumming too, he plays as it is his last time on stage - like i said a hard hitter!!!
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Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22