Kurt.....did Courtney do it?

facepollution wrote:

Since his death was initially investigated as a possible murder, any inconsistencies in forensic aspects of the death scene would have been heavily scrutinised - yet nothing inconsistent was found.

facepollution wrote:

The scientific or factual evidence would be the death scene. The police say it was initially investigated as a murder - no surprise there, I would imagine that it is quite routine in the case of an apparent suicide, to rule out any foul play. Presumably the the forensic aspects all overwhelmingly pointed towards suicide, i.e the position of the body and gun, trajectory of the blood spatter, no voids in that spatter which would indicate another person was in the room at the time of death. Again, these would be quite routine observations and the exact things they would be looking for when investigating the possibility of murder.

Now your question about police reliability. It's not so much a case as taking what they say as the truth, so much as there not being ANY real factual evidence to the contrary, particularly relating to the physicality of his death. There were no reported signs of struggle, which you would imagine there would be if someone was forceably injected with a potentially lethal amount of heroin. Think about it, he would have had to have been pinned down whilst somebody found a vein to inject him in, whilst he was struggling. Then he would have had to have been held in position by the alleged killers whilst they put the gun in his mouth, in such a way that it would still look like suicide.

See it's all very well to be suspicious about the details of his death, but THIS is essentially what people are proposing, and it just doesn't seem very plausible. Add into that, that Kurt bought the gun that killed him, and that he went awol which meant nobody knew exactly where he would be anyway, and the proposal becomes even more far fetched, in that at least two if not more people would have had to have been waiting with this perfectly planned murder, people with forensic knowledge who would know how to throw the police off. Really, it just doesn't stack up.

Let's look at what we do know to be true about Kurt.

1. He had talked about suicide before, and from a very young age.

2. According to a family member he was diagnosed as bipolar - statistically speaking there is a significantly increased risk of suicide amongst sufferers.

3. His family and friends were so concerned by his mental condition and drug addiction that they staged an intervention to get him into rehab.

4. He had a documented fascination with guns.

5. He Bought the gun that killed him

6. He left rehab of his own volition, what were his options at that point? Return to the family and friends who essentially put him in rehab and just refuse to get off the heroin? The pressure on him was immense, a lot of people relied on him - Courtney, Frances, his band mates, his mother, his fans - but he was consumed by his addiction.

To me, the above is pretty compelling stuff, and certainly far more COMMON SENSE than a conspiracy theory built on circumstantial evidence which has never even been varified.

facepollution wrote:

Strangely enough I actually came at it from the same direction as you a few years back. I read Tom Grant's site and my heart sank - I really didn't know what to believe. At some point I looked into it again, and given time to think it occured to me that I had been a bit naive. And as I read through it all again, I realised I had absolutely no reason to believe that this guy was necessarily telling the truth. He could have created this stuff up literally out of thin air for all I know.

As a side note, I find it almost amusing that the source of the information on the lethal heroin dose was apparently the coroner, via a journalist no less! This being one of the corner stones of the conspiracy argument - so it's ok to take the word of an investigator when it supports the argument, but when they say that their investigation was thorough and that they were content with the suicide verdict, suddenly it's questionable.