Is this Authentic??

Strangest Tribe · September 2008

http://cgi.ebay.com/EDDIE-VEDDER-Of-PEARL-JAM-Signed-CUBS-JERSEY-Psa-Dna_W0QQitemZ350095097831QQihZ022QQcategoryZ27264QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

any opinions that this is a real or fake autograph???

Ignorant-Indian · September 2008

this is 100% authentic no doubts about it.....i know this because i have several eddie signatures and i know the dude thats selling this....

IamMine · September 2008

I don't know the whole story here...but what bothers me is that the guy getting autograph from eV, not as a fan, but with intention to sell to make profit.

I don't think EV would have went for that if he knew this person's real intention. :S

He prefers that his items go for causes. That is what I have been observing over the years.

I wonder what this guy told EV when he asked to sign this t-shirt?

*shakes head*

I'd email 10c if I were you, Strangest Tribe and maybe you'd get an answer straight from them?

I wouldn't bid on it myself. :P

restlesssoul · September 2008

hitchhiker.

that sig looks nothing like the one i have, not doubting this guy, just saying that ed's sig has sure changed.

dangerboy · September 2008

looks real to me. the "E" is different from usual signings, but if you were faking it, why would you make such an obvious alteration to the sig? also, psa/dna is well-respected, not a homemade COA. if it's got their hologram or cert number on it, you can verify it through psa....

dangerboy · September 2008

restlesssoul wrote:

hitchhiker.

that sig looks nothing like the one i have, not doubting this guy, just saying that ed's sig has sure changed.

it absolutely has changed over the years.

i'm looking at this one and wondering why he used that "E". looks almost like he made a "C" (like for Cubs), and then crossed it to make it an "E"....

Hard2IMAGINE2007VIC · September 2008

I have seen a few recent EV autos that Ed has changed his "E" to look like the "E" used on the Gibson Epiphone Guitar logo. Looks pretty legit to me.

vedderfan10 · September 2008

restlesssoul wrote:

hitchhiker.

that sig looks nothing like the one i have, not doubting this guy, just saying that ed's sig has sure changed.

Ed's signature has changed....He does his E quite a bit differently now....just saying....

youngster · September 2008

some guy was selling a baseball signed by eddie a few weeks ago and this looks like the same autograph. (The sellers were different) I would say it is authentic. My signature has changed a bit over the years so I wouldn't doubt it's Ed's.

wolfbear · September 2008

Looks and sounds legit to me.

walkunafraid · September 2008

PSA is a very reliable authentication company, so I would say, yes, it is legit.

If only I had the money...that would be a BADASS jersey to own!

Edit: Just placed a bid on it, but highly doubt I'll be the winner.

IamMine · September 2008

I'm not here to tell anyone what to do at all... but hope you don't mind me sharing my feelings about this individual.

I don't have any respect for this individual at all - I looked at his other items for sale...

He has a poster signed by all five members "that took him some time" during the WWS tour in 06. He's selling this for 349 bucks.

He had intentions of selling them and making profits.

You know how fans who have this exciting feeling of getting their favorite person(s) signing something that will forever be something special to them?

This individual isn't one of them. Boo to him.

Okay, thanks for letting me sharing my feelings and you can go ahead and roll eyes at me.

Feel free to ignore me, really!

Carry on...*bows out*

flyinwhole313 · September 2008

PSA DNA is the authority in third party authentication. It will hold the highest resale value because of this Certification. All major auction houses use and trust PSA DNA for Authentication, and their market is far too large to Certify fraudulent signatures. Just check the Cert # on their website before buying.

100 Pacer · September 2008

IamMine wrote:

I don't think EV would have went for that if he knew this person's real intention. :S

He prefers that his items go for causes. That is what I have been observing over the years.

I'd email 10c if I were you, Strangest Tribe and maybe you'd get an answer straight from them?

in all honesty, depending on eV's mood on any given day, if an individual approached in a polite manner and eV felt like signing an autograph he absolutely would. it's pretty easy to spot the autograph sellers in a crowd waiting for eV at the airport/hotel/venue, but eV will still sign autographs for everyone once he starts signing.

as for getting 10C's authentication, which 10C is more than happy and willing to do for ANYONE by the way, it will require having the item mailed to 10C's office where the 10C staffer will just ask the band member in question to confirm the signature.

restlesssoul wrote:

hitchhiker.

that sig looks nothing like the one i have, not doubting this guy, just saying that ed's sig has sure changed.

dangerboy wrote:

it absolutely has changed over the years.

i'm looking at this one and wondering why he used that "E". looks almost like he made a "C" (like for Cubs), and then crossed it to make it an "E"....

here's a recent (obtained at Massey Hall in Toronto during eV's recent solo stop last month) example of the LATEST version of the signature for your consideration:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/BeerBaron78/EV%20Poster/EastCoast2287.jpg

the most obvious change that's already been mentioned in this thread is the way eV know signs the letter E in his 1st name, as opposed to way he signed it pre-solo tour, an example of which is the signature i obtained from eV September/'07:

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/100Pacer/?action=view&current=Tambourine005.jpg

IamMine wrote:

I'm not here to tell anyone what to do at all... but hope you don't mind me sharing my feelings about this individual.

I don't have any respect for this individual at all - I looked at his other items for sale...

He has a poster signed by all five members "that took him some time" during the WWS tour in 06. He's selling this for 349 bucks.

the same seller selling the Cubs jersey AND the poster you mentioned above also has the following Telecaster for sale, "signed" by eV:

http://cgi.ebay.com/EDDIE-VEDDER-Pearl-Jam-Signed-Fender-Guitar-PSA-DNA_W0QQitemZ230288721092QQihZ013QQcategoryZ53267QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

flyinwhole313 wrote:

PSA DNA is the authority in third party authentication. It will hold the highest resale value because of this Certification. All major auction houses use and trust PSA DNA for Authentication, and their market is far too large to Certify fraudulent signatures. Just check the Cert # on their website before buying.

the guitar mentioned above comes with said PSA DNA certification, but i've got to tell you i have NEVER trusted and will NEVER trust that type of authentication, if for no other reason than the signature on the guitar is 100% fake!

in this day and age where PJ fans are doing exactly what's being done in this thread, which is to post images of legitimate eV/PJ signatures, individuals who make a living knocking out fake signatures have an invaluable source from which to draw on examples of real autographs which they will then attempt to duplicate, in most cases quite poorly. tossing in the infamous "eV wave" in a signature might fool the casual fan into believing the signature is real but even the wave signed on the guitar is bogus.

ultimately, when it comes to purchasing signatures one thing is certain: buyer beware. sorry for the long post, just my $0.02

dangerboy · September 2008

100 Pacer wrote:

the guitar mentioned above comes with said PSA DNA certification, but i've got to tell you i have NEVER trusted and will NEVER trust that type of authentication, if for no other reason than the signature on the guitar is 100% fake!

in this day and age where PJ fans are doing exactly what's being done in this thread, which is to post images of legitimate eV/PJ signatures, individuals who make a living knocking out fake signatures have an invaluable source from which to draw on examples of real autographs which they will then attempt to duplicate, in most cases quite poorly. tossing in the infamous "eV wave" in a signature might fool the casual fan into believing the signature is real but even the wave signed on the guitar is bogus.

ultimately, when it comes to purchasing signatures one thing is certain: buyer beware. sorry for the long post, just my $0.02

psa dna is above reproach imho. they have been the standard bearer in baseball and other sport card grading for over 20 years. their authentication service is second to none. i agree that 99.9% of coa's are worthless, but the psa/dna is about the only one i'd trust.

although, i'd point out that ed did not sign the guitar. he obviously signed a pick guard that was later attached. and i disagree with you about its authenticity. looks real to me. and yes, i've obtained ed's auto in person myself. kinda funny that the "real" one on the tambourine that you posted is almost identical to the one you say is "bogus" on the guitar. the curve in the center of the "E", the arc of the "V" into the smaller "e", the trailing "r", the period at the end...all identical. the fact that the guitar one is a little sloppier and only has one "d" in each word tells me that he signed this quickly, maybe even begrudgingly knowing that this was a pro autograph hound...

however, on the caveat emptor, we agree

100 Pacer · September 2008

dangerboy wrote:

although, i'd point out that ed did not sign the guitar. he obviously signed a pick guard that was later attached. and i disagree with you about its authenticity. looks real to me. and yes, i've obtained ed's auto in person myself.

however, on the caveat emptor, we agree

what i should have said is eV signed the pick guard, and not the actual guitar.

i suppose the best position to be in is to obtain a signature yourself from someone whose signature you'd like to receive. obviously, that's not possible for everyone and it's upsetting to know PJ fans spend serious $$$ on signatures that are in fact fakes (some, not all, in all fairness).

but the case can be aruged that it really doesn't matter to some whether a signature is 100% legitimate. if someone believes a signature is real and that brings him/her joy, then by all means enjoy it. if someone doubts whether a signature is real or fake but buys the signed item anyway because it's a representation of the actual signature, again to them i say enjoy it and display it proudly if it means that much.

ACCBootlegGoddess · September 2008

I agree....the autograph on that guitar is soooooo fake.
Since its the same seller thats selling the Cubs jersey, I'd shy away from purchasing it (the Jersey) if I were you. The V on the Jersey looks WAY bigger than any V I've seen Eddie do. Even if some of this guys sigs look legit...the fact that he has even one fake autograph up for sale calls all his auctions into question for me....no matter how close to the legit Ed signature I do have they may be.
Good luck

IamMine · September 2008

100 Pacer wrote:

in all honesty, depending on eV's mood on any given day, if an individual approached in a polite manner and eV felt like signing an autograph he absolutely would. it's pretty easy to spot the autograph sellers in a crowd waiting for eV at the airport/hotel/venue, but eV will still sign autographs for everyone once he starts signing.

that sounds about right...

100 Pacer wrote:

as for getting 10C's authentication, which 10C is more than happy and willing to do for ANYONE by the way, it will require having the item mailed to 10C's office where the 10C staffer will just ask the band member in question to confirm the signature.

they'd be more than happy to help, no doubt about it...but I don't think they'd be willing to have items mailed out to them, though - photos would suffice.

I know, because I was one of these suckers who wanted to purchase a signed guitar from "all the members of PJ" back in 2003 - when the board was down for months (remember these days where we hung out at RM?)

I really wish I asked 10c...but around that time I didn't get the impression that they were willing to help out with ebay questions, esp the autographs.

I however did ask people and some say yes while others say no...

After some time has passed and I had a question about the auction (Benoraya Hall Vinyl LP signed) 10c had put up and I asked 10c about the guitar (it had been bugging me in the back of my head).

Rob from 10c answered with regrets that it was not real when I sent him pictures.

I never told my hubby that it was fake - don't have the heart....it was his first guitar he had ever owned and he did play that thing to death.

It's still in good shape today.

But I spent 800 something on it that they "promised" was "authentic" (even have some fake certificate saying it was real - I wish I still had it but threw it away after 10c told me it was fake) and even defended themselves when I later confronted them via email after what 10c had told me. If I had asked earlier before the 30 days was up, I'd gladly return it.

They wouldn't admit it. I wish I still had that ebay link but I don't have it anymore.

I learned my lesson and I'd really much prefer that I had gotten it personally signed by PJ themselves in person instead of 3rd parties. It doesn't mean as much, does it?

It was nice to see my husband's face light up on x-mas.

dangerboy · September 2008

psa dna is what it is. they are professionals. if the number on the cert from them is real, punch it into their website. if that coa was from anyone else, i wouldn't defend it. all of us looking at a pic on ebay don't come close to highly paid professional handwriting authenticators who have had the item in their hands and have examined it with magnifiers against known samples, whether we have obtained autos in person or not.

dangerboy · September 2008

just out of curiosity, i'd be interested to know what y'all think of these...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/edsig5dollarbill.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/PJSIGSED.jpg

Gardenparty · September 2008

IamMine wrote:

I'm not here to tell anyone what to do at all... but hope you don't mind me sharing my feelings about this individual.

I don't have any respect for this individual at all - I looked at his other items for sale...

He has a poster signed by all five members "that took him some time" during the WWS tour in 06. He's selling this for 349 bucks.

He had intentions of selling them and making profits.

You know how fans who have this exciting feeling of getting their favorite person(s) signing something that will forever be something special to them?

This individual isn't one of them. Boo to him.

Okay, thanks for letting me sharing my feelings and you can go ahead and roll eyes at me.

Feel free to ignore me, really!

Carry on...*bows out*

I hear what you're saying and agree with your opinion but it's not illegal to sell an autograph. I don't put it in the same class as selling tickets.

Also, sure it's a nice jersey and it would be cool to own but it's just a fricking signature. I would think somebody would rather get the signature themselves than pay $400 for somebody else's work. I laugh at whoever shells out that kind of money for it.

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