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Do you people still think of Ed as a Spokesman for Gen X?

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,117
edited July 2008 in The Porch
From what i have heard a part of the reason besides disliking commercialism, that the band shied away from the spotlight from 1993 until 2006 was because the band had problems with crazy fans.

back in the day, 1991-1994, ed was being called a spokeman for Gen X, and he obviously hated that. I remember reading how he got kids showing up at his house and kids writing to him for help, because they thought he had the answers. They saw him as some sort of leader. i think if we are honest alot of us felt that way. i did about Kurt and Eddie and I was only 7 in 1991.

Do you think people still think think of him as a spokesman? Certainly Gen X is still alive and kicking, but they are sort of silent it seems. Where are they? The boomers havent been out of the spotlight ever (the baby boom, the 60's, the 70, the 80's, yuppies etc...)


Do you think the band still attracts those types of fans?

Do you think they still have fans writing to them trying to get help?
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    faithful227faithful227 Posts: 352
    This is an interesting post. I know I sure thought of him that way back when I was a teen, Ed and Kurt both. I wonder if I still think of him that way? I don't think I do. Not for "answers" anyway. I look at Pearl Jam as a band that has always been there for me through good and bad times in my life. Certain songs and albums strike an emotional chord that remind me of certain times in my life. And i will always have an appreciation for that that most people don't and will never understand. But that is definitely my draw to them.

    Deep thoughts.... :)
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    LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    He's also a spokesman for some of us Gen-Yers too... ;)
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
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    alexersalexers Posts: 492
    I'm only eighteen years old, so I have to be honest and say that i'm kind of ignorant when it comes to the whole Generation X topic. But I can tell you that I'm not drawn to Pearl Jam because of their catchy tunes, it sure helps, but I really really dig the lyrics. I guess I just understand them better than I understand other people's music. I have found a few answers in some songs that i've heard. I find that when I listen to Pearl Jam, I'm not only looking up to the band but also to the generation before mine. People like me really look up to you guys (assuming you're a part of Gen X) and we base our decisions off of yours. Don't know if that answers your question, but I tried! :)
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    LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Gen x is middle aged now.. all their spokes people are going through middle age crissises.. :p
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,731
    for better or worse, the last major spokesman for this generation was Eminem


    "I take each individual degenerate's head and reach into it
    just to see if he's influenced by me if he listens to music
    And if he feeds into this shit he's an innocent victim
    and becomes a puppet on the string of my tennis shoe"
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden

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    LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    for better or worse, the last major spokesman for this generation was Eminem


    "I take each individual degenerate's head and reach into it
    just to see if he's influenced by me if he listens to music
    And if he feeds into this shit he's an innocent victim
    and becomes a puppet on the string of my tennis shoe"
    You're telling me that 30+year-old dudes were buying The Slim Shady LP in 1999 and The Marshall Mathers LP in 2000? :p

    Nah, he speaks for the early Gen-Yers (1977-1985). Not sure who's the spokesperson for the second wave of Gen-Yers though(1986-199*)
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
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    ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    I hate these gen tags . we are who we are. everyones different. it only defines when we were born.
    And ed speaks for himself, and sometimes the band. the songs may hold meaning for many but generally its not the reason why ed wrote each one.
    takke alive for instance.
    Id hate to be Ed with such pressure on him.
    dont get me wrong. The words have comforted me, help me vent at times. but he wrote these songs firstly for himself then shared them with all of us
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    LongRd. wrote:
    You're telling me that 30+year-old dudes were buying The Slim Shady LP in 1999 and The Marshall Mathers LP in 2000? :p

    Nah, he speaks for the early Gen-Yers (1977-1985). Not sure who's the spokesperson for the second wave of Gen-Yers though(1986-199*)
    Well I was 25 and plenty of my older friends listened to it, mostly because it was funny and a Dr. Dre product. Dr. Dre was big w/ us Gen-X ers :)
    NERDS!
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,054
    I am 33 now, married, 2 kids and Ed speaks almost to a T for me...our current administration, the war, economy, the earth, family/children...all things that I worry about each and every day
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,731
    LongRd. wrote:
    You're telling me that 30+year-old dudes were buying The Slim Shady LP in 1999


    I would have bought the Slim Shady LP if I was 60 years old when it came out.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Vitalogy was my bible thru my high school years...i never expected Ed, the man, to solve all my problem, but the music sure did give me an escape...even to this day

    seems like the band is always there when the world needs a spokesperson, whether you agree or disagree with their politics
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    Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    Certainly Gen X is still alive and kicking, but they are sort of silent it seems. Where are they?

    Ha. At Pearl Jam shows.

    Least that's how it looked to me! :)
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    LongRd. wrote:
    You're telling me that 30+year-old dudes were buying The Slim Shady LP in 1999 and The Marshall Mathers LP in 2000? :p

    Nah, he speaks for the early Gen-Yers (1977-1985). Not sure who's the spokesperson for the second wave of Gen-Yers though(1986-199*)

    Well I'm 47 and I bought the MM lp when I was 40.(I guess that actually puts me in with the baby boomers.) Of course he doesn't speak FOR me. No one does really.

    But, PJ(Eddie) does speak to me. And elequently endorses some subjects that I have a vested interest in. There aren't a whole lot of "involved" bands out there. Especially with the chops of PJ.

    With PJ it seems you can have your cake and eat it too.
    Great message with the great music.
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    pjalive21 wrote:
    seems like the band is always there when the world needs a spokesperson, whether you agree or disagree with their politics

    i mostly agree. i've heard some pj fans (not many, just a few) criticize others for ignoring ed when he gives his political speeches while rocking out to his songs which give a similar message. i don't see how that makes sense--correct me if i'm wrong but it sounds pretty different when the whole band is playing music and when ed is talking to the crowd in a normal voice.

    i think that at the end of the day pj just write terrific music, are extremely loyal to their fans, and put on terrific shows. not to say that there isn't meaning and escape in their music, but rather that everyone sees it in their own way and just really digs their music.

    also, i'm not saying that pjalive21 said anything about political speeches etc...i was just grouping a few random people that i'd heard say that.
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    Biggest WaveBiggest Wave Posts: 686
    I've never looked at Ed as a spokesperson for anything. He's a singer in a band. That's all he's ever been to me and that's all he ever will be.
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    ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    some things are said that i agree with......some things are said that i do not agree with. no bid deal......the same can be applied to my wonderful wife and our marriage of 13 years.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
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    fluff4ufluff4u Posts: 193
    Eddie and Pearl Jam were a huge influence on me growing up. I was 15 when I saw them in 1994, they were at there peak of power and seemed to mirror alot of what i was feeling and thinking at the time. I always looked to them at expressing some sort of truth.
    In there middle years after vitology i kinda lost touch with them and was into other types of music. A few years later I picked up with them again and found a renewed interest in there music intill today.
    Today they have changed alot, and thou I still mostly agree and like to listen to what they or Ed has to say it's quite differant from the past. The high ticket cost of Eddies solo tour and the whole verizion thing is nothing that Pearl Jam of the past would consider.
    - I would say thou that in essessence Ed really does represent even today that group of Gen Xers (about 30-40 years old) because I would guess the majority of there fans at shows are this age group and have these high paying jobs for big buissness same as Pearl Jam is today. So he really is just growing with them and vice versa, and forever will be Pearl Jam and eddie vedders core fan base. So, yes he is there spokes person in many ways.
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