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I can't for the life of me figure out how Ed panders to anyone...
Because he feeds you liberal godless bullshit that makes you feel guilt free.
With that, I still love Pearl Jam, but he does pander.
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i dont see what the big deal is- hes a singer in a rock band, not our best friend. and im there to see the songs, not listen to his political rants anyway
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Putting people down...he's pissing,.. he's living...
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The townsfolk,... they all laugh
Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent
Seems the more you make, equals the loneliness you get
and it's fitting,... he's barely living,... a day he'll soon forget
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He's stiffening,... we're all whistling...
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Because he feeds you liberal godless bullshit that makes you feel guilt free.
With that, I still love Pearl Jam, but he does pander.
I was liberal and godless well before i heard of Eddie Vedder.
Ed's just speaking his mind and it just so happens i agree with him on some subjects. It's his stage. We all go there KNOWING what he's going to to talk about in between songs. I don't think he panders to anyone.
I think it has been proven, the impact that artists can have on politics, with John Lennon (almost got deported for speaking his mind)...And Dylan constantly being questioned if he is political in his songs (and hilarious that he regularly denies being "political").I believe that it is unfair to ask that Eddie does not speak of politics or other beliefs. We have all embraced this band for not only the music but also Eddie's words...which are many times very political in his songs....I love this about him. But, it makes me wonder...is it ok for Eddie to include these things in his songs..but, not without accompanying music?
If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
i dont see what the big deal is- hes a singer in a rock band, not our best friend. and im there to see the songs, not listen to his political rants anyway
Thats exactly how i feel, I know what to expect when I go to a show but Im going there for the music and the fans, nothing more. I am an educated adult who makes my own decisions without a "rock star's" influence. I would go to a VFC concert, enjoy the HELL out of it and then vote Republican the very next day, NO Big Whoop!
Sometimes "Majority" just means all of the Fools are in Agreement.
It would be better if he fed you Right Wing Wacko God Driven Bullshit that made you feel Guilty?
He's just stating his opinion. More power to him.
I have never cried on here about him giving his opinion. But Eddie does pander. I was just responding to the question of how he panders. OK with me. He is a musician. Of course, he is a lefty.
And no I don't need him to give me my Right wing Wacko fix. I have Sean Hannity for that.
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i dont see what the big deal is- hes a singer in a rock band, not our best friend. and im there to see the songs, not listen to his political rants anyway
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I was liberal and godless well before i heard of Eddie Vedder.
Ed's just speaking his mind and it just so happens i agree with him on some subjects. It's his stage. We all go there KNOWING what he's going to to talk about in between songs. I don't think he panders to anyone.
I think you defined pandering in there.
I'm glad this excited some people. Fun debate!
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He probably ran into Eddie somewhere....Eddie blew him off....and now he's heartbroken
Aw, a torn PJ lover.
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I fail to see how speaking one's mind = pandering. To pander would be for Eddie to only say things because it's what people want to hear. Neither of those things is true: he's shown that he is committed to what he says and isn't just saying it to gratify people, and, as is clear from these boards alone, a lot of people don't want to hear the things he has to say. His opinions may be more popular now, but he stuck to them even when they were unpopular (e.g., 2003 tour). You'd have a much stronger case for him pandering if he kept quiet just to please the public, or if he changed what he said based on the overriding sentiment at the time.
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That part kind of caught me off guard, actaully pretty funny.
I predict that he will be sorry one day.
But someone else will be happy!
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A: went to 50 shows and realized they are hypocrites. Eddie Vedder is a liar. He panders to you.
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What's ironic is I have heard this from a few fans now. :(
I can't for the life of me figure out how Ed panders to anyone...
"To is a preposition.
Come is a verb"
Because he feeds you liberal godless bullshit that makes you feel guilt free.
With that, I still love Pearl Jam, but he does pander.
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It would be better if he fed you Right Wing Wacko God Driven Bullshit that made you feel Guilty?
He's just stating his opinion. More power to him.
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Thinks he'll get the girl, he'll only get the mechanic
What's missing? He's living a day he'll soon forget
That's one more time around,... the sun is going down
The moon is out, but he's drunk and shouting,
Putting people down...he's pissing,.. he's living...
A day he'll soon forget
Counts his money every morning
The only thing that keeps him horny
Locked in a giant house, that's alarming
The townsfolk,... they all laugh
Sorry is the fool who trades his love for high-rise rent
Seems the more you make, equals the loneliness you get
and it's fitting,... he's barely living,... a day he'll soon forget
That's one more time around,... there is not a sound
He's lying dead clutching Benjamins,... never put the money down
He's stiffening,... we're all whistling...
A man we'll soon forget
They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
Let's go for three in a row, no sorry i can't think of anything thats not funny. - Paul Merton
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I was liberal and godless well before i heard of Eddie Vedder.
Ed's just speaking his mind and it just so happens i agree with him on some subjects. It's his stage. We all go there KNOWING what he's going to to talk about in between songs. I don't think he panders to anyone.
"To is a preposition.
Come is a verb"
If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
Thats exactly how i feel, I know what to expect when I go to a show but Im going there for the music and the fans, nothing more. I am an educated adult who makes my own decisions without a "rock star's" influence. I would go to a VFC concert, enjoy the HELL out of it and then vote Republican the very next day, NO Big Whoop!
I am LIBERAL & GODLESS, so I love Eddie.
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I have never cried on here about him giving his opinion. But Eddie does pander. I was just responding to the question of how he panders. OK with me. He is a musician. Of course, he is a lefty.
And no I don't need him to give me my Right wing Wacko fix. I have Sean Hannity for that.
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Minor League Park 8/18/18 - Minor League Park 8/20/18 - Los Angeles 4/16/20
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I think you defined pandering in there.
I'm glad this excited some people. Fun debate!
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Chicago 8/23/09 - St. Louis 5/4/10 - East Troy 9/3/11 - East Troy 9/4/11
Minor League Park 7/19/13 - Milwaukee 10-20-14 - Bonnaroo 6/11/16
Minor League Park 8/20/16 - Minor League Park 8/22/16
Minor League Park 8/18/18 - Minor League Park 8/20/18 - Los Angeles 4/16/20
He probably ran into Eddie somewhere....Eddie blew him off....and now he's heartbroken
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I fail to see how speaking one's mind = pandering. To pander would be for Eddie to only say things because it's what people want to hear. Neither of those things is true: he's shown that he is committed to what he says and isn't just saying it to gratify people, and, as is clear from these boards alone, a lot of people don't want to hear the things he has to say. His opinions may be more popular now, but he stuck to them even when they were unpopular (e.g., 2003 tour). You'd have a much stronger case for him pandering if he kept quiet just to please the public, or if he changed what he said based on the overriding sentiment at the time.
Ha! I bet someone couldn't get EV solo tickets.
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