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Vitalogy Remastered - Review

Kurtman44Kurtman44 Posts: 161
edited March 2011 in The Porch
http://www.musicrooms.net/rock/rock-rev ... alogy.html

found this, not sure if this has been posted...

i found it interesting that the review mentions that the songs were "re-mixed" cause i though they were just remastered but basically the same...cool that the songs might be tweaked a little bit
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Interesting.

    I was hoping the Corduroy outtake would be the slower version.
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  • WaveRyderWaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    sweet. thanks for posting
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  • Kurtman44Kurtman44 Posts: 161
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Interesting.

    I was hoping the Corduroy outtake would be the slower version.


    yeah me too, i love the bridge school 94 version
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,418
    2 different things guys. Don't expect something brand new like the Ten "remix"
    Do a little more research on remix vs. remaster.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Interesting.

    I was hoping the Corduroy outtake would be the slower version.

    don't think that was "written" until 2 years later
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  • jimbojones1138jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    Kurtman44 wrote:
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Interesting.

    I was hoping the Corduroy outtake would be the slower version.


    yeah me too, i love the bridge school 94 version


    i think that was 96
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  • Kurtman44Kurtman44 Posts: 161
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    Kurtman44 wrote:
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    Interesting.

    I was hoping the Corduroy outtake would be the slower version.


    yeah me too, i love the bridge school 94 version


    i think that was 96


    ah yes, you're right, slight mental lapse there
  • Dr.BrainwaveDr.Brainwave Posts: 139
    Just curious, anyone find a review of the whole set or at least the VS remaster?
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Kurtman44 wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    Kurtman44 wrote:


    yeah me too, i love the bridge school 94 version


    i think that was 96


    ah yes, you're right, slight mental lapse there
    No, you were right, they did that slowed version at both the 94 and 96 BSC
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  • TunnelThroughDenialTunnelThroughDenial Posts: 769
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    2 different things guys. Don't expect something brand new like the Ten "remix"
    Do a little more research on remix vs. remaster.

    The article does imply that some songs were remixed, like Corduroy...

    "Unfortunately, other songs have suffered from over-mixing and have lost some of their charm compared to the original versions. ‘Corduroy’ for example, has an improved intro, with bass notes ringing out, but as the song ends, the multiple guitar tracks are lost in the mix, and many of the nuances that make the song what it is are drowned out, to the detriment of an otherwise great re-mix. In the same vein, the verses in ‘Immortality’ border on becoming a mush of noise, with only Vedder’s vocals cutting through clearly"
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  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    TunnelThroughDenial wrote:
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    2 different things guys. Don't expect something brand new like the Ten "remix"
    Do a little more research on remix vs. remaster.

    The article does imply that some songs were remixed, like Corduroy...

    "Unfortunately, other songs have suffered from over-mixing and have lost some of their charm compared to the original versions. ‘Corduroy’ for example, has an improved intro, with bass notes ringing out, but as the song ends, the multiple guitar tracks are lost in the mix, and many of the nuances that make the song what it is are drowned out, to the detriment of an otherwise great re-mix. In the same vein, the verses in ‘Immortality’ border on becoming a mush of noise, with only Vedder’s vocals cutting through clearly"


    That doesn't sound good at all. I hope they haven't ruined the songs
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    the real question is did either album need to be remastered?...

    you're paying for the trinkets and packaging and what not... the albums were perfect the way they were

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  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    the real question is did either album need to be remastered?...

    you're paying for the trinkets and packaging and what not... the albums were perfect the way they were

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    I agree here, I don't believe they needed remastering. I don't think any album does really. Re-issues/re-masters are basically a cash cow aren't they? Anyone who thinks differently is naive in my view.
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  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,496
    boyo79 wrote:
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    the real question is did either album need to be remastered?...

    you're paying for the trinkets and packaging and what not... the albums were perfect the way they were

    PERFECT :D


    I agree here, I don't believe they needed remastering. I don't think any album does really. Re-issues/re-masters are basically a cash cow aren't they? Anyone who thinks differently is naive in my view.
    I do think Ten needed it, please don't kill me....
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    boyo79 wrote:
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    the real question is did either album need to be remastered?...

    you're paying for the trinkets and packaging and what not... the albums were perfect the way they were

    PERFECT :D


    I agree here, I don't believe they needed remastering. I don't think any album does really. Re-issues/re-masters are basically a cash cow aren't they? Anyone who thinks differently is naive in my view.
    i think the recent pretty hate machine remaster was well needed and worthwhile... granted, at the volume i listen to most music the subtleties in the mix are usually lost :D

    a lot of stuff from the 80's and 90's just have a dated sound by today's recording standards... i actually like it on most stuff... but some albums could benefit from the treatment
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  • Dr.BrainwaveDr.Brainwave Posts: 139
    I think that the early pressings of cds in the 80s and 90s suffered from a subpar sound and am always glad to hear those albums remastered. However, you are correct that for many albums it is just a gadget to get money. Honestly though, I still have the original versions of vs and vitalogy so why not have new versions of them to listen to as well? I love the albums so much that I think it's really cool for the hardcore fan.
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  • fox_mulderXfox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    as long as they're not fucking around with the dynamic range they can remaster as many as they want.

    but i disagree with some posts on here, cds from the 80s and 90s sound so much better than they do today.
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Spoken wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    the real question is did either album need to be remastered?...

    you're paying for the trinkets and packaging and what not... the albums were perfect the way they were

    PERFECT :D


    I agree here, I don't believe they needed remastering. I don't think any album does really. Re-issues/re-masters are basically a cash cow aren't they? Anyone who thinks differently is naive in my view.
    I do think Ten needed it, please don't kill me....
    :-?


    I think the alternative Ten 'reduxed' mix was a completely different kind of project to these latest remasters - it had some very distinctive studio production that the band wanted to alter. Not so for Vs. and Vitalogy.

    I fear what is being described in the review may be the effects of the much debated current trends in digital mixing and mastering: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

    Still, I will listen to these with an open mind
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  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,496
    Oops, yes, I meant Ten Redux...
    :-?
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    fox_mulderX wrote:
    as long as they're not fucking around with the dynamic range they can remaster as many as they want.

    That's what the review kinda sounds like to me. :(
  • PilateOfTheStormPilateOfTheStorm Posts: 4,319
    even more excited to listen to it now, not long til it's released now :D

    After listening to the Ten Remix/Redux it sounds great, definitely benifitted from it.

    As to vs and vitalogy - they seemed perfect to me, but that's what I thought about original Ten too
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