Mother Nature

Nice! For a second, I thought this might be some kind of anti-mother nature thread and I was preparing to rip that flimsy proboscis right off your little mozzie face!

I’m all better now…

Great photos. Volcanoes, floods, tsunamis, earthquakes... they make us realise just how insignificant we are.

HeidiJam wrote:

:roll: I am pretty sure man caused that... Its called Climate Change...

i guess god is responsible for everything ... volcanoes, earthquakes, flooding ... man can't possibly have any influence ... :?

HeidiJam wrote:

Isn't that your answer for every natural disaster??? MAN, MAN, MAN... No god is not responsible for anything, I don't see what that has to do with anything. But you do know these kinds of disasters were happening before man ever stepped foot on this earth, don't you???

soo ... because there was a flood before there was man - man cannot influence the occurence of floods ...

is that your understanding?

polaris_x wrote:

HeidiJam wrote:

Isn't that your answer for every natural disaster??? MAN, MAN, MAN... No god is not responsible for anything, I don't see what that has to do with anything. But you do know these kinds of disasters were happening before man ever stepped foot on this earth, don't you???

soo ... because there was a flood before there was man - man cannot influence the occurence of floods ...

is that your understanding?

Man is better at preventing floods through civil engineering projects. There is documentation to support that.

As for influencing floods, I think COBRA tried this once but they ended up getting stopped by the Joe's.

HeidiJam wrote:

Nope, your the one linking every natural disaster to man with out any proof. Show me one disaster that has been linked directly to man.

first of all - i've never linked every disaster to man ... the fact you think i have is a clear indication that you have not really been reading the words i type ...

again - i ask ... do you believe that man cannot contribute to natural disasters either through cause or impact? ... what is your assertation if you mock the notion that global warming could have caused some events? ...

what is your point in saying there were natural disasters before man other than to say that man can not influence disasters?

polaris_x wrote:

HeidiJam wrote:

Nope, your the one linking every natural disaster to man with out any proof. Show me one disaster that has been linked directly to man.

first of all - i've never linked every disaster to man ... the fact you think i have is a clear indication that you have not really been reading the words i type ...

again - i ask ... do you believe that man cannot contribute to natural disasters either through cause or impact? ... what is your assertation if you mock the notion that global warming could have caused some events? ...

what is your point in saying there were natural disasters before man other than to say that man can not influence disasters?

Man's actions today, I do not think that they can cause/contribute to natural disasters today, Now in years and years to come yes/possibly. But I don't think todays weather patterns and disasters have anything to do with man. Future, yes I can see the contribution. I mock AGW because after every single event that a disaster someone links it to humans... I think we are a long ways from that. Hell that volcano eruption has probably produced more toxin to the enviroment then we ever have. My point of saying that about natural disasters was because i have seen some on here (maybe you, or not, I can't remember) think that when an event like this happens that its due to human activity. Natural disasters have happend before us, and will happen after us, we may contribute alot, a little, but we certinly can NOT stop natural disasters like this volcano that harm the enviroment.

polaris_x wrote:

HeidiJam wrote:

Man's actions today, I do not think that they can cause/contribute to natural disasters today, Now in years and years to come yes/possibly. But I don't think todays weather patterns and disasters have anything to do with man. Future, yes I can see the contribution. I mock AGW because after every single event that a disaster someone links it to humans... I think we are a long ways from that. Hell that volcano eruption has probably produced more toxin to the enviroment then we ever have. My point of saying that about natural disasters was because i have seen some on here (maybe you, or not, I can't remember) think that when an event like this happens that its due to human activity. Natural disasters have happend before us, and will happen after us, we may contribute alot, a little, but we certinly can NOT stop natural disasters like this volcano that harm the enviroment.

ok ... in the first sentence you say that you don't think we can cause/contribute to natural disasters and in the last you say we may contribute alot or a little ... which is it?

would you say drought is a natural disaster?

Try reading all the words. In the first sentence i said mans actions today, I do not think that they can cause/contribute to natural disasters today. Meaning the weather we are having today, snow/rain ect, I don't think we are having an effect on that, but weather in the future, yes/possibly.

polaris_x wrote:

HeidiJam wrote:

Try reading all the words. In the first sentence i said mans actions today, I do not think that they can cause/contribute to natural disasters today. Meaning the weather we are having today, snow/rain ect, I don't think we are having an effect on that, but weather in the future, yes/possibly.

then what does this mean? ... we are talking natural disasters ... just as you wrote ...

Natural disasters have happend before us, and will happen after us, we may contribute alot, a little, but we certinly can NOT stop natural disasters like this volcano that harm the enviroment

again ... do you think drought is a natural disaster?

I guess so, i would think the only things with droughts are is you never really know how bad they will be. Since they are dependant on rainfall.