Sounds like you guys have been misbehaving a little bit. :shock:
Of course, there was no chance you could have possibly overlooked that.
I may have been away for awhile today, but I read everything.
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So what's the verdict, current "Rival" being replaced with a different one? Maybe a different "Timeless Melody"?
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So what's the verdict, current "Rival" being replaced with a different one? Maybe a different "Timeless Melody"?
I'm not sure we've reached a verdict concerning Timeless Melody.
Rival gets to stay, I guess. It seems to be the consensus so far.
Basically, we haven't changed anything :
I'm not sure we've reached a verdict concerning Timeless Melody.
Rival gets to stay, I guess. It seems to be the consensus so far.
Basically, we haven't changed anything :
Do you think we should go with the London "TM"
It sucks that we are getting so good at this that our Rough Drafts are sounding like final versions.
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I have mixed feelings about that one - it's musically more uplifting but I find the vocals more pensive somehow.
As I understand it, the discussion still includes London, Oslo and Manchester (current).
I have mixed feelings about that one - it's musically more uplifting but I find the vocals more pensive somehow.
As I understand it, the discussion still includes London, Oslo and Manchester (current).
It sucks that we are getting so good at this that our Rough Drafts are sounding like final versions.
That's what I meant by *frustration* ! We won't have a week worth of fun there if we reach the final version so soon.
I say that tomorrow or later today for you (and the rest of my European Friends) We go with the Oslo version of "Timeless" and a different version of "Rival" and call it Version 1. I will put it together and send it out and then you and Tremors can decide if the Rough Draft is better than Version 1 or if Version 1 is better.
Get some rest, you've earned it.
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I say that tomorrow or later today for you (and the rest of my European Friends) We go with the Oslo version of "Timeless" and a different version of "Rival" and call it Version 1. I will put it together and send it out and then you and Tremors can decide if the Rough Draft is better than Version 1 or if Version 1 is better.
Get some rest, you've earned it.
Then we should go with the Stockholm version of Rival and see how it sounds.
I'm definitely going to bed now. It was time to go 4 hours ago already.
I say that tomorrow or later today for you (and the rest of my European Friends) We go with the Oslo version of "Timeless" and a different version of "Rival" and call it Version 1. I will put it together and send it out and then you and Tremors can decide if the Rough Draft is better than Version 1 or if Version 1 is better.
Get some rest, you've earned it.
Then we should go with the Stockholm version of Rival and see how it sounds.
I'm definitely going to bed now. It was time to go 4 hours ago already.
Cool, Stockholm and Oslo gonna rock it out tomorrow.
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I say that tomorrow or later today for you (and the rest of my European Friends) We go with the Oslo version of "Timeless" and a different version of "Rival" and call it Version 1. I will put it together and send it out and then you and Tremors can decide if the Rough Draft is better than Version 1 or if Version 1 is better.
Get some rest, you've earned it.
Then we should go with the Stockholm version of Rival and see how it sounds.
I'm definitely going to bed now. It was time to go 4 hours ago already.
Cool, Stockholm and Oslo gonna rock it out tomorrow.
The reason that these projects work out is that Cameron4President is so decisive! I concur with all of the above. I will listen to the changes on what is already an outstanding collection.
I also concur about Don't Be Shy - especially if we are to use that in the Riot Act project
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Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - Stockholm, Sweden (June 28, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000) Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
Do we need to make anymore changes before I send this copy out?
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - Stockholm, Sweden (June 28, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000) Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
Do we need to make anymore changes before I send this copy out?
Version 1 uploading now, link will be PM'd in a few moments. IMO, I think it sounds better than the "Rough Draft"
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Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - Stockholm, Sweden (June 28, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000) Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
Do we need to make anymore changes before I send this copy out?
Version 1 uploading now, link will be PM'd in a few moments. IMO, I think it sounds better than the "Rough Draft"
Have been listening to the changes in the mix today, and had a good listen right through a couple of times. I definitely think the new timeless melody is better here, and does work for me as an ending.
I was quite attached to the previous version of rival which I actually appreciated more than I've ever done with this song. The new version didn't hit the same spot, something about the vocal quality and emotion. But seeing as this is my least favourite pearl jam track I don't think my opinion should carry much weight on rival.
Overall I think it stands as a great collection, especially with an oslo tm ending. I would be hesitant about changing it too much from now, or losing some of the very affecting performances we have. So if people have strong feelings about replacing some of the key numbers, they better be able to come up with a scorching alternative!!
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
its a pitty...of the girl from Lisbon...is out :( :( :(
ill tell my mom..
The problem with the 2000 European Tour is that it is too good. Too many great performances!!! The band brings it, and the crowd does too!!
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1. Release - San Sebastian, 05-26-2000
2. Of The Girl - Katowice, 06-16-2000
3. Breakerfall – Nurnberg, 06-11-2000
4. Last Exit - Manchester, 06-04-2000
5. Brain Of J. – Katowice, 06-15-2000
6. Given to Fly – Paris, 06-08-2000
7. Faithfull – Hamburg, 06-26-2000
8. Red Mosquito – Cardiff, 06-06-2000
9. Nothing As It Seems – Nurnberg, 06-11-2000
10. Insignificance – Verona, 06-20-2000
11. Light Years – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
12. Untitled – Zurich, 06-23-2000
13. MFC – Berlin, 06-25-2000
14. Rearviewmirror – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
15. Garden – Manchester, 06-04-2000
16. Habit – Berlin, 06-25-2000
17. Once – Prague, 06-14-2000
18. State Of Love And Trust – London, 05-30-2000
19. Alive – Oslo, 06-29-2000
Disc 2 - North America Leg 1
1. Oceans – West Palm Beach, 08-09-2000
2. Corduroy – Camden, 09-01-2000
3. Hail, Hail – Camden, 09-02-2000
4. Evacuation – Tampa, 08-12-2000
5. Tremor Christ – Tampa, 08-12-2000
6. In My Tree – Pittsburgh, 09-05-2000
7. Rival – Boston, 08-29-2000
8. Do The Evolution – Virginia Beach, 08-03-2000
9. Even Flow – Camden, 09-01-2000
10. Daughter – Jones Beach, 08-24-2000
11. Not For You – Boston, 08-30-2000
12. Present Tense – Jones Beach, 08-25-2000
13. Sleight Of Hand – Saratoga Springs, 08-27-2000
14. Footsteps – Boston, 08-30-2000
15. Smile – Jones Beach, 08-25-2000
16. Indifference – Columbia, 09-04-2000
17. Yellow Ledbetter – Saratoga Springs, 08-27-2000
Disc 3 - North America Leg 3
1. Long Road – Phoenix, 10-21-2000
2. Go – Boise, 11-03-2000
3. Animal – Kansas City, 10-12-2000
4. God’s Dice – Mountain View, 10-31-2000
5. Grievance – Houston, 10-15-2000
6. Dissident – East Troy, 10-08-2000
7. I Got Id – Montreal, 10-04-2000
8. In Hiding – Chicago, 10-09-2000
9. Off He Goes – Houston, 10-15-2000
10. Nothingman – Seattle, 11-06-2000
11. Immortality – Toronto, 10-05-2000
12. Porch – East Troy, 10-08-2000
13. Black – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
14. Better Man – Seattle, 11-06-2000
15. Crown Of Thorns - Las Vegas, 10-22-2000
16. Parting Ways – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
Disc 4 – Bonus Disc
1. Sometimes – London, 05-30-2000
2. Spin The Black Circle - Camden, 09-01-2000
3. Whipping – Camden, 09-01-2000
4. Pilate – Prague, 06-14-2000
5. Thin Air – Detroit, 10-07-2000
6. Leatherman – Seattle, 11-06-2000
7. U – St. Louis, 10-11-2000
8. Small Town- Camden, 09-01-2000
9. Wishlist – West Palm Beach, 08-10-2000
10. Jeremy – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
11. Soon Forget – Zurich, 06-23-2000
12. Throw Your Arms Around Me – Noblesville, 08-18-2000
13. Don’t Be Shy – San Diego, 10-25-2000
14. Everyday – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
15. Timeless Melody – Manchester, 06-04-2000
16. Soldier Of Love – Chicago, 10-09-2000
17. The Kids Are Alright – Seattle, 11-06-2000
18. Crazy Mary – Boston, 08-29-2000
19. Sonic Reducer – St. Louis, 10-11-2000
20. Leaving Here – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
21. Baba O’Riley – Chicago, 10-09-2000
22. Fuckin’ Up – Portland, 11-02-2000
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its a pitty...of the girl from Lisbon...is out :( :( :(
ill tell my mom..
The problem with the 2000 European Tour is that it is too good. Too many great performances!!! The band brings it, and the crowd does too!!
i told her already..now you are in trouble... :roll:
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
its a pitty...of the girl from Lisbon...is out :( :( :(
ill tell my mom..
The problem with the 2000 European Tour is that it is too good. Too many great performances!!! The band brings it, and the crowd does too!!
i told her already..now you are in trouble... :roll:
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2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
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On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - ???
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
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On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - ???
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
yay Oslo Timeless Melody - Love that one!
for Rival there is - Milan, Stockholm, Netherlands,Katowice and Germany
So if we don't want Stockholm (which is a shame, IMO it was pretty good )
There's still 4 others (Don't know if we need another German track but I'll listen to it)
Netherlands - Good version. I think there is one lyric mess up but it's not a big deal. Nice version.
Milan- Another solid version. Like it a lot.
Katowice - The version that we had in the rough draft, Messes up the lyrics. It's funny but then it becomes noticeable. Might not be so noticeable in amongst all the others though. IMO Milan and the Netherlands are stronger versions.
Germany - Solid start, a guitar cuts out - Mike's I think? - just after the beginning of the second verse so Ed's voice stands out really clear. Then he kinda messes up the lyrics, but the guitar comes back after a bit.
IMO
if we don't want Stockholm, either Milan or the Netherlands should be next. Just the better stronger versions of the songs IMO.
Katowice - like it, just not a lot, too many eff ups. Once I noticed them it kinda put me off listening to it.
On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - ???
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
yay Oslo Timeless Melody - Love that one!
for Rival there is - Milan, Stockholm, Netherlands,Katowice and Germany
So if we don't want Stockholm (which is a shame, IMO it was pretty good )
There's still 4 others (Don't know if we need another German track but I'll listen to it)
Netherlands - Good version. I think there is one lyric mess up but it's not a big deal. Nice version.
Milan- Another solid version. Like it a lot.
Katowice - The version that we had in the rough draft, Messes up the lyrics. It's funny but then it becomes noticeable. Might not be so noticeable in amongst all the others though. IMO Milan and the Netherlands are stronger versions.
Germany - Solid start, a guitar cuts out - Mike's I think? - just after the beginning of the second verse so Ed's voice stands out really clear. Then he kinda messes up the lyrics, but the guitar comes back after a bit.
IMO
if we don't want Stockholm, either Milan or the Netherlands should be next. Just the better stronger versions of the songs IMO.
Katowice - like it, just not a lot, too many eff ups. Once I noticed them it kinda put me off listening to it.
Good work electricxlovex, I say we go with the Netherlands next and if that doesn't work we can go back Katowice. I would like exclude Milan because "Thin Air" currently occupies that slot.
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Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000) Rival - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
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On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
:shock: Version 2 already ?! I just knew that going to work today and actually get some work done was a bad idea ...
Been listening to Version 1 and Oslo TM does fit better. It actually makes a difference. More so than I initially thought it would.
I didn't have an issue with Stockholm's rival, but since you raised the drum thing, I keep hearing it. And it is annoying.
So I guess we have to resort to the Pinkpop version where the lyrics are messed up too (we just can't use the Hamburg one where he actually states that he fucked up and the sound is not so good). Or go back to the Katowice version.
I figured that since we have to go with a version where the lyrics are messed up anyway, we could go back to the Katowice one ? I mean, at least this one was fun.
On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
:shock: Version 2 already ?! I just knew that going to work today and actually get some work done was a bad idea ...
Been listening to Version 1 and Oslo TM does fit better. It actually makes a difference. More so than I initially thought it would.
I didn't have an issue with Stockholm's rival, but since you raised the drum thing, I keep hearing it. And it is annoying.
So I guess we have to resort to the Pinkpop version where the lyrics are messed up too (we just can't use the Hamburg one where he actually states that he fucked up and the sound is not so good). Or go back to the Katowice version.
I figured that since we have to go with a version where the lyrics are messed up anyway, we could go back to the Katowice one ? I mean, at least this one was fun.
Tremors and Myra,
PM sent with Version 2 link. Listen to Rival with its surrounding songs, see how it fits. Then listen to Rough Draft Rival with its surrounding songs. Let me know which one sounds better, and that might just be Version 3/Final Version.
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PM sent with Version 2 link. Listen to Rival with its surrounding songs, see how it fits. Then listen to Rough Draft Rival with its surrounding songs. Let me know which one sounds better, and that might just be Version 3/Final Version.
That makes sense.
Currently waiting for a completed download and will report back (whatever that means. I don't think that's correct though... ).
On second thought, I am not happy with the Stockholm version of "Rival". Drums at the beginning annoy me. Let's either put back the Katowice version or try a different version of "Rival".
:shock: Version 2 already ?! I just knew that going to work today and actually get some work done was a bad idea ...
Been listening to Version 1 and Oslo TM does fit better. It actually makes a difference. More so than I initially thought it would.
I didn't have an issue with Stockholm's rival, but since you raised the drum thing, I keep hearing it. And it is annoying.
So I guess we have to resort to the Pinkpop version where the lyrics are messed up too (we just can't use the Hamburg one where he actually states that he fucked up and the sound is not so good). Or go back to the Katowice version.
I figured that since we have to go with a version where the lyrics are messed up anyway, we could go back to the Katowice one ? I mean, at least this one was fun.
Tremors and Myra,
PM sent with Version 2 link. Listen to Rival with its surrounding songs, see how it fits. Then listen to Rough Draft Rival with its surrounding songs. Let me know which one sounds better, and that might just be Version 3/Final Version.
Brilliant - will listen right through in the next hour or so. I think we've made excellent progress with this one. Is very hard to do it justice, but the Euro boots and Euro performances, and fellow board members make certain things work as well as possible. I have been getting a lot of emotion and a lot out of listening to the collection. Thanks.
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Of course, there was no chance you could have possibly overlooked that.
I may have been away for awhile today, but I read everything.
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I'm not sure we've reached a verdict concerning Timeless Melody.
Rival gets to stay, I guess. It seems to be the consensus so far.
Basically, we haven't changed anything :
Do you think we should go with the London "TM"
It sucks that we are getting so good at this that our Rough Drafts are sounding like final versions.
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I have mixed feelings about that one - it's musically more uplifting but I find the vocals more pensive somehow.
As I understand it, the discussion still includes London, Oslo and Manchester (current).
That's what I meant by *frustration* ! We won't have a week worth of fun there if we reach the final version so soon.
I say that tomorrow or later today for you (and the rest of my European Friends)
Get some rest, you've earned it.
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Then we should go with the Stockholm version of Rival and see how it sounds.
I'm definitely going to bed now. It was time to go 4 hours ago already.
Cool, Stockholm and Oslo gonna rock it out tomorrow.
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The reason that these projects work out is that Cameron4President is so decisive! I concur with all of the above. I will listen to the changes on what is already an outstanding collection.
I also concur about Don't Be Shy - especially if we are to use that in the Riot Act project
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Project #6 - "Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live" **Version 1**
Track List:
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
Rival - Stockholm, Sweden (June 28, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
Do we need to make anymore changes before I send this copy out?
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Version 1 uploading now, link will be PM'd in a few moments. IMO, I think it sounds better than the "Rough Draft"
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Have been listening to the changes in the mix today, and had a good listen right through a couple of times. I definitely think the new timeless melody is better here, and does work for me as an ending.
I was quite attached to the previous version of rival which I actually appreciated more than I've ever done with this song. The new version didn't hit the same spot, something about the vocal quality and emotion. But seeing as this is my least favourite pearl jam track I don't think my opinion should carry much weight on rival.
Overall I think it stands as a great collection, especially with an oslo tm ending. I would be hesitant about changing it too much from now, or losing some of the very affecting performances we have. So if people have strong feelings about replacing some of the key numbers, they better be able to come up with a scorching alternative!!
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The problem with the 2000 European Tour is that it is too good. Too many great performances!!! The band brings it, and the crowd does too!!
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Here is a great compilation of that tour that fellow Ten Club member "ManOfTheHour75" put together.
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... ation.html
Track List:
Disc 1- Europe
1. Release - San Sebastian, 05-26-2000
2. Of The Girl - Katowice, 06-16-2000
3. Breakerfall – Nurnberg, 06-11-2000
4. Last Exit - Manchester, 06-04-2000
5. Brain Of J. – Katowice, 06-15-2000
6. Given to Fly – Paris, 06-08-2000
7. Faithfull – Hamburg, 06-26-2000
8. Red Mosquito – Cardiff, 06-06-2000
9. Nothing As It Seems – Nurnberg, 06-11-2000
10. Insignificance – Verona, 06-20-2000
11. Light Years – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
12. Untitled – Zurich, 06-23-2000
13. MFC – Berlin, 06-25-2000
14. Rearviewmirror – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
15. Garden – Manchester, 06-04-2000
16. Habit – Berlin, 06-25-2000
17. Once – Prague, 06-14-2000
18. State Of Love And Trust – London, 05-30-2000
19. Alive – Oslo, 06-29-2000
Disc 2 - North America Leg 1
1. Oceans – West Palm Beach, 08-09-2000
2. Corduroy – Camden, 09-01-2000
3. Hail, Hail – Camden, 09-02-2000
4. Evacuation – Tampa, 08-12-2000
5. Tremor Christ – Tampa, 08-12-2000
6. In My Tree – Pittsburgh, 09-05-2000
7. Rival – Boston, 08-29-2000
8. Do The Evolution – Virginia Beach, 08-03-2000
9. Even Flow – Camden, 09-01-2000
10. Daughter – Jones Beach, 08-24-2000
11. Not For You – Boston, 08-30-2000
12. Present Tense – Jones Beach, 08-25-2000
13. Sleight Of Hand – Saratoga Springs, 08-27-2000
14. Footsteps – Boston, 08-30-2000
15. Smile – Jones Beach, 08-25-2000
16. Indifference – Columbia, 09-04-2000
17. Yellow Ledbetter – Saratoga Springs, 08-27-2000
Disc 3 - North America Leg 3
1. Long Road – Phoenix, 10-21-2000
2. Go – Boise, 11-03-2000
3. Animal – Kansas City, 10-12-2000
4. God’s Dice – Mountain View, 10-31-2000
5. Grievance – Houston, 10-15-2000
6. Dissident – East Troy, 10-08-2000
7. I Got Id – Montreal, 10-04-2000
8. In Hiding – Chicago, 10-09-2000
9. Off He Goes – Houston, 10-15-2000
10. Nothingman – Seattle, 11-06-2000
11. Immortality – Toronto, 10-05-2000
12. Porch – East Troy, 10-08-2000
13. Black – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
14. Better Man – Seattle, 11-06-2000
15. Crown Of Thorns - Las Vegas, 10-22-2000
16. Parting Ways – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
Disc 4 – Bonus Disc
1. Sometimes – London, 05-30-2000
2. Spin The Black Circle - Camden, 09-01-2000
3. Whipping – Camden, 09-01-2000
4. Pilate – Prague, 06-14-2000
5. Thin Air – Detroit, 10-07-2000
6. Leatherman – Seattle, 11-06-2000
7. U – St. Louis, 10-11-2000
8. Small Town- Camden, 09-01-2000
9. Wishlist – West Palm Beach, 08-10-2000
10. Jeremy – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
11. Soon Forget – Zurich, 06-23-2000
12. Throw Your Arms Around Me – Noblesville, 08-18-2000
13. Don’t Be Shy – San Diego, 10-25-2000
14. Everyday – Lubbock, 10-18-2000
15. Timeless Melody – Manchester, 06-04-2000
16. Soldier Of Love – Chicago, 10-09-2000
17. The Kids Are Alright – Seattle, 11-06-2000
18. Crazy Mary – Boston, 08-29-2000
19. Sonic Reducer – St. Louis, 10-11-2000
20. Leaving Here – Landgraaf, 06-12-2000
21. Baba O’Riley – Chicago, 10-09-2000
22. Fuckin’ Up – Portland, 11-02-2000
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Version 2:
Project #6 - "Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live" **Version 2**
Track List:
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
Rival - ???
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
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yay Oslo Timeless Melody - Love that one!
for Rival there is - Milan, Stockholm, Netherlands,Katowice and Germany
So if we don't want Stockholm (which is a shame, IMO it was pretty good )
There's still 4 others (Don't know if we need another German track
Netherlands - Good version. I think there is one lyric mess up but it's not a big deal. Nice version.
Milan- Another solid version. Like it a lot.
Katowice - The version that we had in the rough draft, Messes up the lyrics.
Germany - Solid start, a guitar cuts out - Mike's I think? - just after the beginning of the second verse so Ed's voice stands out really clear. Then he kinda messes up the lyrics, but the guitar comes back after a bit.
IMO
if we don't want Stockholm, either Milan or the Netherlands should be next. Just the better stronger versions of the songs IMO.
Katowice - like it, just not a lot, too many eff ups. Once I noticed them it kinda put me off listening to it.
Good work electricxlovex, I say we go with the Netherlands next and if that doesn't work we can go back Katowice. I would like exclude Milan because "Thin Air" currently occupies that slot.
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Project #6 - "Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live" **Version 2**
Track List:
Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
Rival - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Oslo, Norway (June 29, 2000)
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:shock: Version 2 already ?! I just knew that going to work today and actually get some work done was a bad idea ...
Been listening to Version 1 and Oslo TM does fit better. It actually makes a difference. More so than I initially thought it would.
I didn't have an issue with Stockholm's rival, but since you raised the drum thing, I keep hearing it. And it is annoying.
So I guess we have to resort to the Pinkpop version where the lyrics are messed up too (we just can't use the Hamburg one where he actually states that he fucked up and the sound is not so good). Or go back to the Katowice version.
I figured that since we have to go with a version where the lyrics are messed up anyway, we could go back to the Katowice one ? I mean, at least this one was fun.
Tremors and Myra,
PM sent with Version 2 link. Listen to Rival with its surrounding songs, see how it fits. Then listen to Rough Draft Rival with its surrounding songs. Let me know which one sounds better, and that might just be Version 3/Final Version.
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That makes sense.
Currently waiting for a completed download and will report back (whatever that means. I don't think that's correct though... ).
Brilliant - will listen right through in the next hour or so. I think we've made excellent progress with this one. Is very hard to do it justice, but the Euro boots and Euro performances, and fellow board members make certain things work as well as possible. I have been getting a lot of emotion and a lot out of listening to the collection. Thanks.
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I agree
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me too
love that version