Project #6 - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live

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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    tremors wrote:
    Morning all!

    Before breakfast I have listened to the project so far, and when I got to Light Years I went on a bit of a detour and listened to a range of different versions from the Euro boots. I have found two alternative versions, both of which I find work better for me in the spirit of this collection when placed within it - and wanted to know your thoughts. They are quite different performances I would say - a 'strong' one, and a 'softer' one.

    The strong one is Katowice, with a bit of talking before, which we might or might not include. Clear and powerful vocals.

    The second, which I do prefer, and it gives me goosebumps listening back, is Prague - a softer quite mournful tone, which I also think fits with the tone of our Nothing as it seems, and made me reflect more on the theme of our collection, a beautifully subtle and moving performance.

    Both of these I think work better than our current version of Light Years, which although it is a great and moving version sounds to me quite specific and 'personal', and has some extra lines added to the song, whereas the two versions I have highlighted here are very moving without any additions or extras which take the song into different places.

    So I my personal preference from the ones I have listened to this morning would be Prague, but I would also think Katowice would work well for our collection, now that I have been able to listen to the larger piece. What do you think?


    What do people think of my feedback about Light Years? I've been listening through with the Prague Light Years, and I think it fits better overall.....
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  • and still prefer london 2 thin air version
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  • tremors wrote:
    [I've been listening to Of the Girl from Lisbon - that sounds great!
    those fans make it all the way spacial..i promise my self not loose any portugal show in the future
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  • mocik wrote:
    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3

    There is no version of Thin Air from the Prague show.
    I thought that Of The Girl version has been chosen from that show.

    Sorry, I copied and pasted in the wrong place:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    and still prefer london 2 thin air version


    I think Cameron4President's latest tracklist has picked up a few errors, based on where we got to yesterday. My understanding was that we had settled on one song from Milan, and that being Thin Air, after we were weighing up Milan for Of the Girl too.

    We might need to reopen discussion on a few tracks maybe - Cameron4President is quite good at helping sort things out. Is he around?
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    mocik wrote:
    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3

    There is no version of Thin Air from the Prague show.
    I thought that Of The Girl version has been chosen from that show.

    Sorry, I copied and pasted in the wrong place:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3


    That is pretty much what I have been listening to today, and it sounds very good. I have been listening to the Lisbon Of the Girl in there, and that sounds amazing.

    Also, I am not sure about Evacuation - it seems to have quite a few lyrical slip ups especially at the beginning
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  • tremors wrote:
    and still prefer london 2 thin air version


    I think Cameron4President's latest tracklist has picked up a few errors, based on where we got to yesterday. My understanding was that we had settled on one song from Milan, and that being Thin Air, after we were weighing up Milan for Of the Girl too.

    We might need to reopen discussion on a few tracks maybe - Cameron4President is quite good at helping sort things out. Is he around?


    Track List is corrected (See Previous Post)

    I am not sure about two from Milan. How about "Of The Girl" from San Sebastian, Spain?
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    tremors wrote:
    and still prefer london 2 thin air version


    I think Cameron4President's latest tracklist has picked up a few errors, based on where we got to yesterday. My understanding was that we had settled on one song from Milan, and that being Thin Air, after we were weighing up Milan for Of the Girl too.

    We might need to reopen discussion on a few tracks maybe - Cameron4President is quite good at helping sort things out. Is he around?


    Track List is corrected (See Previous Post)

    I am not sure about two from Milan. How about "Of The Girl" from San Sebastian, Spain?


    I will try that now, also I am wondering if it would be good to finish the collection with a good 'improv' - I think that might fit after I Got You. Do we have a list of possible improvs to choose from?
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  • I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.
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  • Insignificance - Koln??

    Is this good for everybody??

    Of The Girl - San Sebastian??

    Is this good for everybody??
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.


    Good idea. I think finishing with Timeless Melody would make a lot of sense. So I prefer your first option.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
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    Insignificance - Koln??

    Is this good for everybody??

    Of The Girl - San Sebastian??

    Is this good for everybody??


    Definitely like the San Sebastian Of the Girl!

    We haven't had anything from London 2 yet, which was a good show - so I was thinking of trying that Insignificance, or alternatively listening to that show for another 'gap'

    EDIT: London 2 doesn't seem to have any Insignificance
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  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.

    There are two nice improvs :
    one is a bit bluesy, from San Sebastian and the other one, I tend to favor over the first one, is from the Rock Im Park show.

    I'm sure I don't want Alive on this compilation for various reasons, the first being that I don't see why Alive should be on it.

    If we don't go for an improv, there's also the alternative choice of picking Soldier of Love, either from London 1 or Katowice 2.
  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    tremors wrote:
    I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.


    Good idea. I think finishing with Timeless Melody would make a lot of sense. So I prefer your first option.

    +1
  • tremors wrote:
    Insignificance - Koln??

    Is this good for everybody??

    Of The Girl - San Sebastian??

    Is this good for everybody??


    Definitely like the San Sebastian Of the Girl!

    We haven't had anything from London 2 yet, which was a good show - so I was thinking of trying that Insignificance, or alternatively listening to that show for another 'gap'

    Cool.
    Changes I am going to make to the Track List:

    Ending:
    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    Insignificance - London 2
    Of The Girl - San Sebastian

    Evacuation - change??
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    myra wrote:
    I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.

    There are two nice improvs :
    one is a bit bluesy, from San Sebastian and the other one, I tend to favor over the first one, is from the Rock Im Park show.

    I'm sure I don't want Alive on this compilation for various reasons, the first being that I don't see why Alive should be on it.

    If we don't go for an improv, there's also the alternative choice of picking Soldier of Love, either from London 1 or Katowice 2.


    That Rock Im Park Improv is great (just listened!) -

    I think a great ending might well be

    Improv (Rock Im Park)
    I Got You (Verona)
    Timeless Melody (Manchester?)
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    tremors wrote:
    Insignificance - Koln??

    Is this good for everybody??

    Of The Girl - San Sebastian??

    Is this good for everybody??


    Definitely like the San Sebastian Of the Girl!

    We haven't had anything from London 2 yet, which was a good show - so I was thinking of trying that Insignificance, or alternatively listening to that show for another 'gap'

    Cool.
    Changes I am going to make to the Track List:

    Ending:
    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    Insignificance - London 2
    Of The Girl - San Sebastian

    Evacuation - change??


    Cool - I don't think London 2 has Insignificance though!
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  • TheRealDanPatchTheRealDanPatch Posts: 1,854
    edited January 2011
    Comments?

    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation
    Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Improv.
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
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  • tremors wrote:
    Cool - I don't think London 2 has Insignificance though!

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  • Insignificance -koln or cardiff
    Of The Girl - katowice 2
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  • tremors wrote:
    Cool - I don't think London 2 has Insignificance though!

    :oops: :oops: :oops:

    How about Koln or Cardiff??
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Comments?

    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation
    Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Improv.
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)


    Looks good!

    I think we have had a few votes for insignificance Koln.

    Myra and I like the Rock im Ring Improv a lot too
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  • tremors wrote:
    myra wrote:
    I am thinking the last three should go something like this:

    Improv. - ???
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

    or

    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Yellow Ledbetter - ???

    I am not sure that I want "Alive" on this set for a few reasons.

    If we go with an Improv., lets place it after "Parting Ways", it will be a good transition from album to bonus material.

    There are two nice improvs :
    one is a bit bluesy, from San Sebastian and the other one, I tend to favor over the first one, is from the Rock Im Park show.

    I'm sure I don't want Alive on this compilation for various reasons, the first being that I don't see why Alive should be on it.

    If we don't go for an improv, there's also the alternative choice of picking Soldier of Love, either from London 1 or Katowice 2.


    That Rock Im Park Improv is great (just listened!) -

    I think a great ending might well be

    Improv (Rock Im Park)
    I Got You (Verona)
    Timeless Melody (Manchester?)

    Rock Im Park slot already taken for NAIS ;)
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  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    tremors wrote:

    What do people think of my feedback about Light Years? I've been listening through with the Prague Light Years, and I think it fits better overall.....

    Oups.
    Have been away for a while and am trying to catch up. You guys worked fast when I was away !
    Been listening to a lot of different versions of Light Years this morning, before realising I was running late to go to the train station and left it there.
    The funny thing about this song is that, according to the show, it is totally different in mood and atmosphere. You've got 'rock-ish' light years, 'energetic' light years, even 'laid back' light years and 'softer', more intimate light years, like Prague's and Lisbon's. Katowice 2's is rather intense, all the opposite from Paris', where, as often, there's a slight lack of commitment.
    This being said, I do agree that Prague's Light years works best and has the right mood for that compilation.
  • dont have to put alive from lisbon,,but just listen it to tell me your thoughts.. :)
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  • revised, revised, revised...

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation
    Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
    Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Improv.
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
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  • We need a new "Evacuation" and a new "Improv" or a "Soldier of Love".
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  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    dont have to put alive from lisbon,,but just listen it to tell me your thoughts.. :)

    I will in a minute ;)
  • myramyra Posts: 1,257
    tremors wrote:

    I think we have had a few votes for insignificance Koln.

    Yep, and a vote for Oslo too if I recall correctly.

    I had a tie between Cardiff and Oslo yesterday night and that's where I left it.

    Might be worth it to check this Oslo version again too.
  • Hamburg or berlin - evacuation
    i prefer Hamburg
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