Project #6 - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

We need a new "Evacuation" and a new "Improv" or a "Soldier of Love".

Or ..... we make an exception to the unwritten rule of having one song per show and keep our improv from Rock Im Park ....
Soldier of love doesn't help solving the dilemma, since it's either from London 1 or Katowice 2, and both slots are already taken.

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

We need a new "Evacuation" and a new "Improv" or a "Soldier of Love".

Or ..... we make an exception to the unwritten rule of having one song per show and keep our improv from Rock Im Park ....
Soldier of love doesn't help solving the dilemma, since it's either from London 1 or Katowice 2, and both slots are already taken.

Good point. You make a great argument for this.

TheRealDanPatch

revised, revised, revised, revised...

Track List:

Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

dimitrispearljam

i have to say it..final list ,with no lisbon song inside isnt the perfect list..

myra

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i have to say it..final list ,with no lisbon song inside isnt the perfect list..

And no Berlin :shock: and no Paris ..... nah, jk, this one's a given. :?

myra

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Hamburg or berlin - evacuation
i prefer Hamburg

Hamburg over Berlin, I agree.

Currently in the process of listening to the other ones ...

TheRealDanPatch

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i have to say it..final list ,with no lisbon song inside isnt the perfect list..

Far from final, just a rough draft. Usually goes like this:

Sat + Sun = working track list
Mon + Tue = Rough Draft
Wed = Version 1
Thurs = Version 2
Fri = Version 3/Final Version
Sat = Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

We need a new "Evacuation" and a new "Improv" or a "Soldier of Love".

I realised that France doesn't seem to have been represented so far, so I listened to the Paris version of Evacuation - and whilst it wasn't the most 'rocky' aggressive version, it does have an interesting and more unique feel and and sound that works very well, and has a slightly dark element to it - so I would be interested to see what people think about this as a possible inclusion.

As for the Improv - seeing as we have more limited choices, and we want to get the right improv from a smaller selection, I think we should consider waiving the 'one show' rule for this track, and including the Rock Im Park version, which is easily the best improv of the ones I have been listening, and one that I think will stand up longer term on a compilation like this, because the lyrics are so good.

Just my two pennies!!

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

We need a new "Evacuation" and a new "Improv" or a "Soldier of Love".

I realised that France doesn't seem to have been represented so far, so I listened to the Paris version of Evacuation - and whilst it wasn't the most 'rocky' aggressive version, it does have an interesting and more unique feel and and sound that works very well, and has a slightly dark element to it - so I would be interested to see what people think about this as a possible inclusion.

As for the Improv - seeing as we have more limited choices, and we want to get the right improv from a smaller selection, I think we should consider waiving the 'one show' rule for this track, and including the Rock Im Park version, which is easily the best improv of the ones I have been listening, and one that I think will stand up longer term on a compilation like this, because the lyrics are so good.

Just my two pennies!!

Evacuation: Paris, Hamburg, or Berlin??? Place your votes now.

Goatboy

man, i need to go back and listen to those 2000 shows, especially europe. good thing I went ahead and bought that whole tour. I remember the poland shows and the UK shows sticking out for some reason. It's been awhile since I've listened.

tremors

myra wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Hamburg or berlin - evacuation
i prefer Hamburg

Hamburg over Berlin, I agree.

Currently in the process of listening to the other ones ...

Hamburg Evacuation sounds good!

myra

tremors wrote:

I realised that France doesn't seem to have been represented so far, so I listened to the Paris version of Evacuation - and whilst it wasn't the most 'rocky' aggressive version, it does have an interesting and more unique feel and and sound that works very well, and has a slightly dark element to it - so I would be interested to see what people think about this as a possible inclusion.
!

I'm listening to it right now! Funny though, because I was thinking 'wait. It sounds odd.'

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

Hamburg Evacuation sounds good!

Hamburg v. Paris ??? Somebody call it.

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I realised that France doesn't seem to have been represented so far, so I listened to the Paris version of Evacuation - and whilst it wasn't the most 'rocky' aggressive version, it does have an interesting and more unique feel and and sound that works very well, and has a slightly dark element to it - so I would be interested to see what people think about this as a possible inclusion.
!

I'm listening to it right now! Funny though, because I was thinking 'wait. It sounds odd.'

It's not a typical sounding version. It might be a bit odd! Hamburg was sounding more typically aggressive to me. I'm happy to go with the consensus

myra

Hamburg had my vote up till now.
But Paris, the more I listen to it, the more sense it makes.
So I'd go for Paris.

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

tremors wrote:

Hamburg Evacuation sounds good!

Hamburg v. Paris ??? Somebody call it.

Myra and Dimi like Hamburg. I like Hamburg. What about Hamburg??

myra

tremors wrote:

I'm happy to go with the consensus

What consensus ?

tremors

myra wrote:

Hamburg had my vote up till now.
But Paris, the more I listen to it, the more sense it makes.
So I'd go for Paris.

Cameron4President - what do you think on this one? They are quite different things. I like both

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm happy to go with the consensus

What consensus ?

Would be much easier if we were all in the same room! The 3 minute 'lag' makes quite a difference!

PilateOfTheStorm

woah you've done a lot today. just caught up

Yay of the girl from spain. Loved that one.

Will there be a Solider of Love in there somewhere?

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

Hamburg had my vote up till now.
But Paris, the more I listen to it, the more sense it makes.
So I'd go for Paris.

Cameron4President - what do you think on this one? They are quite different things. I like both

Unfortunately I am at work today so I can't listen to either version

I would prefer that we go with the more traditional/punkier version of the two, which sounds like Hamburg.

but...

I also realize that we do not have Paris or Berlin represented. :shock:

I think that by the time we finish this project, the representation issue will have worked itself out (if not, oh well, that's the breaks )

I say we go with Hamburg.

TheRealDanPatch

Is this Rough Draft material or do we need to address some more issues?

Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

Track List:

Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
Evacuation - Hamburg, Germany (June 26, 2000)
Light Years - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
Thin Air - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
Insignificance - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
Of The Girl - San Sebastian, Spain (May 26, 2000)
Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
Improv. - Koln, Germany (June 9, 2000)
I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)

myra

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm happy to go with the consensus

What consensus ?

Would be much easier if we were all in the same room! The 3 minute 'lag' makes quite a difference!

Of course, this has nothing to do with me being * a bit * indecisive.

tremors wrote:

Oh, so now you want it in again now eh?!! :roll:

:?

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

Hamburg had my vote up till now.
But Paris, the more I listen to it, the more sense it makes.
So I'd go for Paris.

Cameron4President - what do you think on this one? They are quite different things. I like both

Unfortunately I am at work today so I can't listen to either version

I would prefer that we go with the more traditional/punkier version of the two, which sounds like Hamburg.

but...

I also realize that we do not have Paris or Berlin represented. :shock:

I think that by the time we finish this project, the representation issue will have worked itself out (if not, oh well, that's the breaks )

I say we go with Hamburg.

Agreed! I just listened through with the two next to each other in the mix, and I think Paris is much too subdued for this point of the 'album' - especially as we have more low key versions of some songs coming in later. Hamburg has quite an edge to it - and is punkier, no doubt about it.

TheRealDanPatch

I am not to concerned with Berlin not being on here because Germany is represented well, but I am shocked not to see anything from Paris (France) on here. Thoughts, comments, and opinions??

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

What consensus ?

Would be much easier if we were all in the same room! The 3 minute 'lag' makes quite a difference!

Of course, this has nothing to do with me being * a bit * indecisive.

tremors wrote:

Oh, so now you want it in again now eh?!! :roll:

:?

Don't bring up the nothingman! We lost 30% of our fans with that single decision.... (joke!)

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

I am not to concerned with Berlin not being on here because Germany is represented well, but I am shocked not to see anything from Paris (France) on here. Thoughts, comments, and opinions??

Honestly ?

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

I am not to concerned with Berlin not being on here because Germany is represented well, but I am shocked not to see anything from Paris (France) on here. Thoughts, comments, and opinions??

I'm not too familiar with the Paris show, but the Evacuation version makes me think it must be 'interesting' at least. Why don't we settle on the working tracklist for now - which we have progressed well today, and then a few of us can listen to Paris / Lisbon etc and then at the next stage we can look for moments where they might fit in, if it makes sense when we hear the first draft through

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

I am not to concerned with Berlin not being on here because Germany is represented well, but I am shocked not to see anything from Paris (France) on here. Thoughts, comments, and opinions??

Honestly ?

Well with all of the German we have on this compilation maybe we should call it: "Lights Become Das Boot"

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

I am not to concerned with Berlin not being on here because Germany is represented well, but I am shocked not to see anything from Paris (France) on here. Thoughts, comments, and opinions??

I'm not too familiar with the Paris show, but the Evacuation version makes me think it must be 'interesting' at least. Why don't we settle on the working tracklist for now - which we have progressed well today, and then a few of us can listen to Paris / Lisbon etc and then at the next stage we can look for moments where they might fit in, if it makes sense when we hear the first draft through

Sounds good to me.