Project #6 - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live

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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Am listening right through to the working tracklist. It's very good, but I am not entirely satisfied with the current version of Light Years as it fits with the overall piece- for reasons that it would be hard for me to explain right now. I'm wondering about setting electricxlovex the challenge of finding some alternative versions to choose from - so we can listen to them alongside the others in the mix. And I'm going to have to go to bed in the next hour or so too. So I'll have a further listen with a fresh ear tomorrow.
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  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    electricxlovex wrote:
    listening to Oslo now, liked that one a lot.


    Yep, Oslo's a good one.
    It's a tie between Cardiff and Oslo for me.
    But I'm not even sure which version I'm listening to right now, they all seem to sound the same after a while. :yawn:
  • PilateOfTheStorm
    PilateOfTheStorm Posts: 4,319
    myra wrote:
    electricxlovex wrote:
    listening to Oslo now, liked that one a lot.


    Yep, Oslo's a good one.
    It's a tie between Cardiff and Oslo for me.
    But I'm not even sure which version I'm listening to right now, they all seem to sound the same after a while. :yawn:


    yep that happened to me too so i've stopped

    i'm going to bed now, can't believe it's already 1 am :shock:
    but tomorrow i'll listen again, and i'll listen to all the other ones too

    love being a part of this :) thanks again
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    myra wrote:
    electricxlovex wrote:
    listening to Oslo now, liked that one a lot.


    Yep, Oslo's a good one.
    It's a tie between Cardiff and Oslo for me.
    But I'm not even sure which version I'm listening to right now, they all seem to sound the same after a while. :yawn:


    Yeah, it will soon be time for us Europeans to go to bed, and reconvene in the daylight. A very good start though, and some good work by all!
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    tremors wrote:
    Am listening right through to the working tracklist. It's very good, but I am not entirely satisfied with the current version of Light Years as it fits with the overall piece- for reasons that it would be hard for me to explain right now. I'm wondering about setting electricxlovex the challenge of finding some alternative versions to choose from - so we can listen to them alongside the others in the mix. And I'm going to have to go to bed in the next hour or so too. So I'll have a further listen with a fresh ear tomorrow.


    Actually electricxlove - it's a bit much and would be a bit heavy expecting you to listen to so many versions of Light Years. I am going to bed now, but in the morning I will listen to a range of versions and try and make some suggestions that I think might work. Goodnight everybody, and thanks for all the input today. The collection is sounding great!

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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Morning all!

    Before breakfast I have listened to the project so far, and when I got to Light Years I went on a bit of a detour and listened to a range of different versions from the Euro boots. I have found two alternative versions, both of which I find work better for me in the spirit of this collection when placed within it - and wanted to know your thoughts. They are quite different performances I would say - a 'strong' one, and a 'softer' one.

    The strong one is Katowice, with a bit of talking before, which we might or might not include. Clear and powerful vocals.

    The second, which I do prefer, and it gives me goosebumps listening back, is Prague - a softer quite mournful tone, which I also think fits with the tone of our Nothing as it seems, and made me reflect more on the theme of our collection, a beautifully subtle and moving performance.

    Both of these I think work better than our current version of Light Years, which although it is a great and moving version sounds to me quite specific and 'personal', and has some extra lines added to the song, whereas the two versions I have highlighted here are very moving without any additions or extras which take the song into different places.

    So I my personal preference from the ones I have listened to this morning would be Prague, but I would also think Katowice would work well for our collection, now that I have been able to listen to the larger piece. What do you think?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    i just woke up...cardiff show plays in the cd player..how awesome to start with nais as opener,breakerfall-gods dice to follow...brilliant..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    i just woke up...cardiff show plays in the cd player..how awesome to start with nais as opener,breakerfall-gods dice to follow...brilliant..
    Yeah, I really enjoy that boot. Even though God's Dice is a pointless song to me.


    How come you chose the Katowice Rival over Milan or Sweden? Curious.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    i just woke up...cardiff show plays in the cd player..how awesome to start with nais as opener,breakerfall-gods dice to follow...brilliant..
    Yeah, I really enjoy that boot. Even though God's Dice is a pointless song to me.


    How come you chose the Katowice Rival over Milan or Sweden? Curious.

    Guess you were asking Dimitris about this, but as far as I'm concerned, I thought Stockholm & Katowice 1 had equally good Rival, yet Katowice had this little 'wild' thing that Stockholm didn't have, although Stockholm is really tight. Was tough to pick one over another though.
    As for Milan, such a great show, but we try, as much as possible and when it's relevant, to pick performances from different shows.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    Yep, Oslo's a good one.
    It's a tie between Cardiff and Oslo for me.
    But I'm not even sure which version I'm listening to right now, they all seem to sound the same after a while.

    Is it me, or does Oslo have a little bit more "punch" in the later half of the song?

    But I bet they are sort of equal :)But to my ear Oslo has a slight edge.
    yet Katowice had this little 'wild' thing that Stockholm didn't have
    Ok, cool. Will listen to it again.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    i just woke up...cardiff show plays in the cd player..how awesome to start with nais as opener,breakerfall-gods dice to follow...brilliant..
    Yeah, I really enjoy that boot. Even though God's Dice is a pointless song to me.


    How come you chose the Katowice Rival over Milan or Sweden? Curious.
    from eddie voice..he is singing it more angry..ok he speaks and say this "before..eh,he.." when drums start but its better in my ears..the sweden one is better in the solos mike doing..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Yep, Oslo's a good one.
    It's a tie between Cardiff and Oslo for me.
    But I'm not even sure which version I'm listening to right now, they all seem to sound the same after a while.

    Is it me, or does Oslo have a little bit more "punch" in the later half of the song?

    But I bet they are sort of equal :)But to my ear Oslo has a slight edge.

    Oh great ! Fresh ear on Insignificance, thanx!
    Giving it a new listen in a short while.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    myra wrote:
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    i just woke up...cardiff show plays in the cd player..how awesome to start with nais as opener,breakerfall-gods dice to follow...brilliant..
    Yeah, I really enjoy that boot. Even though God's Dice is a pointless song to me.


    How come you chose the Katowice Rival over Milan or Sweden? Curious.

    Guess you were asking Dimitris about this, but as far as I'm concerned, I thought Stockholm & Katowice 1 had equally good Rival, yet Katowice had this little 'wild' thing that Stockholm didn't have, although Stockholm is really tight. Was tough to pick one over another though.
    As for Milan, such a great show, but we try, as much as possible and when it's relevant, to pick performances from different shows.
    that, u got it..wild is the right word..btw milan one has some miscophonizm issue 2 times on guitar parts..if u understasnd the english word i just made :lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    myra wrote:

    Oh great ! Fresh ear on Insignificance, thanx!
    Giving it a new listen in a short while.
    Koln-Hahnn for Insignificance...the sound of the drums is amazing.. :)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • TheRealDanPatch
    TheRealDanPatch Posts: 1,854
    Wow, I see that everything is coming along nicely. How are our remaining tracks going? This what I see so far:

    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3
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  • TheRealDanPatch
    TheRealDanPatch Posts: 1,854
    Questions:

    Insignificance = Oslo, Koln, or other?

    Bonus Song #3 is ???

    IMO I am not a fan of adding one of these as a bonus: Last Kiss, Leaving Here, RitFW.

    Could see another cover, YL, or an Improv. (Improv would not close the set though)
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    bonus..ALIVE - LISBON....one of the 3-4 best version ever..trust me... ;)
    Insignificance = Koln
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • uninvited chromosome
    uninvited chromosome Posts: 169
    Cameron4President wrote:
    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3

    There is no version of Thin Air from the Prague show.
    I thought that Of The Girl version has been chosen from that show.
    Darkness comes in waves,... tell me, why invite it to stay?
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    mocik wrote:
    Cameron4President wrote:
    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3

    There is no version of Thin Air from the Prague show.
    I thought that Of The Girl version has been chosen from that show.
    no thin air at prague,true
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    mocik wrote:
    Cameron4President wrote:
    Project #6 - "Lights Become Stars: Binaural Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Breakerfall - Ljubljana, Slovenia (June 19, 2000)
    Gods' Dice - Salzburg, Austria (June 18, 2000)
    Evacuation - Lisbon, Portugal (May 23, 2000)
    Light Years - Landgraaf, Netherlands (June 12, 2000)
    Nothing As it Seems - Nurnburg, Germany (June 11, 2000)
    Thin Air - Prague, Czech Republic (June 14, 2000)
    Insignificance
    Of The Girl - Milan, Italy (June 22, 2000)
    Grievance - London, UK (May 29, 2000)
    Rival - Katowice, Poland (June 15, 2000)
    Sleight Of Hand - Katowice, Poland (June 16, 2000)
    Soon Forget - Zurich, Switzerland (June 23, 2000)
    Parting Ways - Seattle, Washington (November 6, 2000)
    Timeless Melody - Manchester, UK (June 4, 2000)
    I Got You - Verona, Italy (June 20, 2000)
    Bonus Song #3

    There is no version of Thin Air from the Prague show.
    I thought that Of The Girl version has been chosen from that show.
    no thin air at prague,true

    I think we had Thin Air from Milan. I've been listening to Of the Girl from Lisbon - that sounds great!
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