This is a business. To reiterate, why on earth do we forgive this business for crap communication when we wouldn't take it from a non-music-related business? I personally don't get it when anyone feels the need to sit down and shut up, rather than bring up legitimate arguments, in order to... what, not make the band cry?
Nope! I didn't mean we were to be more patient not to make the band cry.
It's just I don't get it.
With a real company, such as Coca-Cola, would you guys interpret what they say? Obviously, we have to deal with more exacerbated feelings only because people here are fans.
Never seen coca-cola fans or Nike fans, at least in France.
good god I cant beleive the crap i'm reading in here. :shock:
You know what they'd probably say if they updated us right now? "We're working on it"
RELAX!
AND THATS ALL THAT WE ARE ASKING, ITS NOT THAT TOUGH!
Its not that tough, but at the same time, you'd be in the same place you were 2 minutes ago. You wouldnt know anything. I feel confident that they are working on something and the details arent settled yet. Once they know, they will throw that info to this rabid pack of wolves!
a little patience is all they ask ... knowing us 10 Clubbers have first dibs at almost all their shows and the best seats - isn't that enough?
you're not wrong. But I am not sure Coke would press release an annoucement, not make it and then not speak to the issue while their customers asked. It's called PR and spin. If there's an issue, they should spin it. If there's no issue, why the heck did they Tweet. It's not like this all started from a leak on the Crowded House forums.
ya ... exactly ... you will find out when everyone else finds out ... ask for the contents before the press release and they will tell you to wait ...
like i said before, it's likely they aren't sure when they can announce ... if they don't know exactly - what point is there to say? ... i would assume they are close to finalizing hence the tweet however, who knows what's holding it up and when it will be resolved ... could be in an hour ... could be in the next day or so ...
good god I cant beleive the crap i'm reading in here. :shock:
You know what they'd probably say if they updated us right now? "We're working on it"
RELAX!
exactly....you people with your panties in a wad should just pretend the message included "we'll let you know more when we can" and settle the fuck down
You still dont get it, its not about the tweet anymore. Its about the lack of courtesy toward its customers.
OH and one more thing while I'm still able to think this morning
If you put yourself in the 10 Club's shoes
youmight be thinking:
what is there to answer to?
we didn't promise them anything
we didnt even imply or offer anything
we just said its a good idea to update
and how can we give out info until we have it
we are not here to apologize
we are here to inform
when the time comes we will do our jobs
`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(just sayin' ....that's how i'd look at it if i were them)
WE just have to stop and look at ourselves and realize what spoiled rotten brats we really are...
its true..myself included
we're spoiled
we're impatient
we want what we want and we want it now
and many of us are not even the least bit polite about any of it
am i right?
i say...CHILL
when it comes down it will come down
its all fine and well and good to have fun and speculate
but some people are being rude and plain nasty and all that is going to get us is a lock
and then what? hmmm??
that is all
the great and powerful StillHere has spoken
peace,
jo
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good god I cant beleive the crap i'm reading in here. :shock:
You know what they'd probably say if they updated us right now? "We're working on it"
RELAX!
exactly....you people with your panties in a wad should just pretend the message included "we'll let you know more when we can" and settle the fuck down
You still dont get it, its not about the tweet anymore. Its about the lack of courtesy toward its customers.
oh I get it alright....it is YOUR perceived lack of courtesy. Obviously they can't say anything yet....and obviously they will when they can
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There is some exciting news for our fan club members. Unfortunately, due to contractual obligations - we are unable to announce the details until all aspects have been finalized. When that time comes - we will let everyone know via email and our website.
i put Binaural to listen,cos Breakerfall was the opener at Buenos Aires 1 ..
VAMOS PEARL JAM!!!!!!VENGA!!!!
p.s. just have fun people,everything happens for a reason..all will be great!!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
There was no time frame announced. These guys are probably home for the holiday relaxing with family, 10c office empty for the next few days. People feel like their playing a joke on us, feeling disrespected? Well friends, that's all a matter of personal perspective. I sure hope we all don't operate like this in other parts of our lives. Though as my yogi says.....hey Boo Boo, with attachment comes pain.
There is some exciting news for our fan club members. Unfortunately, due to contractual obligations - we are unable to announce the details until all aspects have been finalized. When that time comes - we will let everyone know via email and our website.
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thanks Kat
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
There was no time frame announced. These guys are probably home for the holiday relaxing with family, 10c office empty for the next few days. People feel like their playing a joke on us, feeling disrespected? Well friends, that's all a matter of personal perspective. I sure hope we all don't operate like this in other parts of our lives. Though as my yogi says.....hey Boo Boo, with attachment comes pain.
hey,any newsfor the second cd?can wait to listen it
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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Yes, a business that's not required to tell us shit, and if they do, it's extra for us. So be thankful for what they do communicate.
Not looking to start an argument with this by any means but I think part of the problem is that some people have this particular response to things. I can guarantee you that if you asked 10 non-fan club members and explained what goes on here, 9 of them would say:
A. What? You are an adult in a fan club still?
B. WTF...that's no way to run a business or treat the fans.
I guarantee that. IMO we shouldn't be thankful for the little information they choose to share that will no doubt lead to us spending money. We would be much more thankful for information. I really can't fathom how some people can defend them with this issue but I won't fight about it. And I hate to be a broken record but we do pay to be here. They run things like it's the CIA for some reason. I'm not sure if it's an ego/power trip kind or thing or what. I don't know what else it could be. The fact that they patrol the boards locking threads while people are asking for info is just salt on the wound. I'm sure they are reading this very post. Hi guys! :wave:
There was no time frame announced. These guys are probably home for the holiday relaxing with family, 10c office empty for the next few days. People feel like their playing a joke on us, feeling disrespected? Well friends, that's all a matter of personal perspective. I sure hope we all don't operate like this in other parts of our lives. Though as my yogi says.....hey Boo Boo, with attachment comes pain.
hey,any newsfor the second cd?can wait to listen it
It's finished my friend! Gave it a listen last night all the way through on the big home stereo and it sounds HUGE. No time frame on release yet. The artwork is currently in development....
There was no time frame announced. These guys are probably home for the holiday relaxing with family, 10c office empty for the next few days. People feel like their playing a joke on us, feeling disrespected? Well friends, that's all a matter of personal perspective. I sure hope we all don't operate like this in other parts of our lives. Though as my yogi says.....hey Boo Boo, with attachment comes pain.
hey,any newsfor the second cd?can wait to listen it
It's finished my friend! Gave it a listen last night all the way through on the big home stereo and it sounds HUGE. No time frame on release yet. The artwork is currently in development....
nice!! :thumbup:
now you know anything about the announcement?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Yes, a business that's not required to tell us shit, and if they do, it's extra for us. So be thankful for what they do communicate.
Not looking to start an argument with this by any means but I think part of the problem is that some people have this particular response to things. I can guarantee you that if you asked 10 non-fan club members and explained what goes on here, 9 of them would say:
A. What? You are an adult in a fan club still?
B. WTF...that's no way to run a business or treat the fans.
I guarantee that. IMO we shouldn't be thankful for the little information they choose to share that will no doubt lead to us spending money. We would be much more thankful for information. I really can't fathom how some people can defend them with this issue but I won't fight about it. And I hate to be a broken record but we do pay to be here. They run things like it's the CIA for some reason. I'm not sure if it's an ego/power trip kind or thing or what. I don't know what else it could be. The fact that they patrol the boards locking threads while people are asking for info is just salt on the wound. I'm sure they are reading this very post. Hi guys! :wave:
I appreciate the civility on this issue... Your thoughts have been sound and understandable...
But for me, they could have waited till they were just ready to announce whatever it is they are going to announce... The tweet was to make sure that people's accounts were up to date and so there would not be bitching about being delinquent...
Now saying that they did say by the weekend... so I understand the frustration..
Kat I am begging you to lock this forum. These "fans" are out of control!!! Seriously, over 160 pages of
complaining?!! Don't people have work,school, families, lives??!!! PJ and the 10 club have always been great to us. If I recall, we will get an email notifying us of any tour announcements. So stop your bitching and
whining and be thankful that we will know before the general public.
Oh yeah, it's not a business, its a FAN CLUB!
Yes, a business that's not required to tell us shit, and if they do, it's extra for us. So be thankful for what they do communicate.
Not looking to start an argument with this by any means but I think part of the problem is that some people have this particular response to things. I can guarantee you that if you asked 10 non-fan club members and explained what goes on here, 9 of them would say:
A. What? You are an adult in a fan club still?
B. WTF...that's no way to run a business or treat the fans.
I guarantee that. IMO we shouldn't be thankful for the little information they choose to share that will no doubt lead to us spending money. We would be much more thankful for information. I really can't fathom how some people can defend them with this issue but I won't fight about it. And I hate to be a broken record but we do pay to be here. They run things like it's the CIA for some reason. I'm not sure if it's an ego/power trip kind or thing or what. I don't know what else it could be. The fact that they patrol the boards locking threads while people are asking for info is just salt on the wound. I'm sure they are reading this very post. Hi guys! :wave:
I'm not trying to argue either, and I understand yours and others position, but this is truly a matter of perspective -- like 2-feign-reluctance said.
Whatever thay have to tell us is being worked on, and for all we know it might have to go through a chain of 5-6 people before it is fed to the wolves. Someone above this message board moderators might have told them to just keep quite until everything is solid. No big deal really. it is being blown waaaay out of proportion.
people like to compare this to corporations like Coke and Nike... bad idea. I see it like a msg board that tells us info when they get it. simple really.
Not looking to start an argument with this by any means but I think part of the problem is that some people have this particular response to things. I can guarantee you that if you asked 10 non-fan club members and explained what goes on here, 9 of them would say:
A. What? You are an adult in a fan club still?
B. WTF...that's no way to run a business or treat the fans.
I guarantee that. IMO we shouldn't be thankful for the little information they choose to share that will no doubt lead to us spending money. We would be much more thankful for information. I really can't fathom how some people can defend them with this issue but I won't fight about it. And I hate to be a broken record but we do pay to be here. They run things like it's the CIA for some reason. I'm not sure if it's an ego/power trip kind or thing or what. I don't know what else it could be. The fact that they patrol the boards locking threads while people are asking for info is just salt on the wound. I'm sure they are reading this very post. Hi guys! :wave:
sooo ... you do not accept the reasoning that there are things beyond their control and that an exact timing of the official announcement is not possible!? ... even tho you spoke to them last year and they told you that directly?
Kat I am begging you to lock this forum. These "fans" are out of control!!! Seriously, over 160 pages of
complaining?!! Don't people have work,school, families, lives??!!! PJ and the 10 club have always been great to us. If I recall, we will get an email notifying us of any tour announcements. So stop your bitching and
whining and be thankful that we will know before the general public.
Oh yeah, it's not a business, its a FAN CLUB!
yeah, i was thinking the same thing... How ironic would it be if the 'tweet' thread needed to be locked? Sad.
ok so i'm not gonna read the last 60 pages of this nonsense especially since it seems like the usual suspects are sharing there expert opinions on how to run a rock band's fan club so can someone update me here...there has been no announcement? any word from 10c as to what happened? and why do i really give a shit?
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Nope! I didn't mean we were to be more patient not to make the band cry.
It's just I don't get it.
With a real company, such as Coca-Cola, would you guys interpret what they say? Obviously, we have to deal with more exacerbated feelings only because people here are fans.
Never seen coca-cola fans or Nike fans, at least in France.
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simple enough right lol
Its not that tough, but at the same time, you'd be in the same place you were 2 minutes ago. You wouldnt know anything. I feel confident that they are working on something and the details arent settled yet. Once they know, they will throw that info to this rabid pack of wolves!
ya ... exactly ... you will find out when everyone else finds out ... ask for the contents before the press release and they will tell you to wait ...
like i said before, it's likely they aren't sure when they can announce ... if they don't know exactly - what point is there to say? ... i would assume they are close to finalizing hence the tweet however, who knows what's holding it up and when it will be resolved ... could be in an hour ... could be in the next day or so ...
You still dont get it, its not about the tweet anymore. Its about the lack of courtesy toward its customers.
If you put yourself in the 10 Club's shoes
you might be thinking:
what is there to answer to?
we didn't promise them anything
we didnt even imply or offer anything
we just said its a good idea to update
and how can we give out info until we have it
we are not here to apologize
we are here to inform
when the time comes we will do our jobs
`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(just sayin' ....that's how i'd look at it if i were them)
WE just have to stop and look at ourselves and realize what spoiled rotten brats we really are...
its true..myself included
we're spoiled
we're impatient
we want what we want and we want it now
and many of us are not even the least bit polite about any of it
am i right?
i say...CHILL
when it comes down it will come down
its all fine and well and good to have fun and speculate
but some people are being rude and plain nasty and all that is going to get us is a lock
and then what? hmmm??
that is all
the great and powerful StillHere has spoken
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
oh I get it alright....it is YOUR perceived lack of courtesy. Obviously they can't say anything yet....and obviously they will when they can
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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p.s. just have fun people,everything happens for a reason..all will be great!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
Not looking to start an argument with this by any means but I think part of the problem is that some people have this particular response to things. I can guarantee you that if you asked 10 non-fan club members and explained what goes on here, 9 of them would say:
A. What? You are an adult in a fan club still?
B. WTF...that's no way to run a business or treat the fans.
I guarantee that. IMO we shouldn't be thankful for the little information they choose to share that will no doubt lead to us spending money. We would be much more thankful for information. I really can't fathom how some people can defend them with this issue but I won't fight about it. And I hate to be a broken record but we do pay to be here. They run things like it's the CIA for some reason. I'm not sure if it's an ego/power trip kind or thing or what. I don't know what else it could be. The fact that they patrol the boards locking threads while people are asking for info is just salt on the wound. I'm sure they are reading this very post. Hi guys! :wave:
It's finished my friend! Gave it a listen last night all the way through on the big home stereo and it sounds HUGE. No time frame on release yet. The artwork is currently in development....
now you know anything about the announcement?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
But for me, they could have waited till they were just ready to announce whatever it is they are going to announce... The tweet was to make sure that people's accounts were up to date and so there would not be bitching about being delinquent...
Now saying that they did say by the weekend... so I understand the frustration..
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complaining?!! Don't people have work,school, families, lives??!!! PJ and the 10 club have always been great to us. If I recall, we will get an email notifying us of any tour announcements. So stop your bitching and
whining and be thankful that we will know before the general public.
Oh yeah, it's not a business, its a FAN CLUB!
Thx VinylGirl.
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I'm not trying to argue either, and I understand yours and others position, but this is truly a matter of perspective -- like 2-feign-reluctance said.
Whatever thay have to tell us is being worked on, and for all we know it might have to go through a chain of 5-6 people before it is fed to the wolves. Someone above this message board moderators might have told them to just keep quite until everything is solid. No big deal really. it is being blown waaaay out of proportion.
people like to compare this to corporations like Coke and Nike... bad idea. I see it like a msg board that tells us info when they get it. simple really.
sooo ... you do not accept the reasoning that there are things beyond their control and that an exact timing of the official announcement is not possible!? ... even tho you spoke to them last year and they told you that directly?
yeah, i was thinking the same thing... How ironic would it be if the 'tweet' thread needed to be locked? Sad.