how did the general consensus that this will be an Austrialian tour come about?
From the tweet references to the Wizard of 'Oz'. I'm undecided, but people have posted that this common abbreviation for Australia has been used in the past by 10C
Has there been 2 tweets didnt see this in the 1st one?
As far as I know the consensus is there are two cryptic references to the Wizard of Oz in the one tweet on page 1 - the man behind the curtain, and the scarecrow. Post 1 is all any of us have to go on!!
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Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
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anyway - i really am off to work this time - the nurses are on strike in nsw - one here plans on wearing her scrubs all day, so the country hospital visitors know why she doesnt care if they have the sniffles .... should be an entertaining day!!
now - all the o/s 10clubbers - just remember .... deep breaths .... relaxing thoughts ..... channel your zen ....
Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
People have been going on the standard practice for previous tweets, tours and timings
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i don't believe the membership dues says you will get information whenever you want ... there is nothing in writing that says there will be an annoucenment today nor yesterday nor tomorrow ... you will get it when they see fit to announce ...
what most people are experiencing here is what is now known as the "age of entitlement" ... a generation of people who think that the only thing that matters is "me, me and me" ...
there are no legitimate complaints on this thread ...
I don't see all of this as entitlement, I see it as blatant teasing. 10C could have the courtesy to explain whatever, but they choose to rather tease and then pretend nothing's going on. It is funny to watch...but completely unnecessary.
anyway - i really am off to work this time - the nurses are on strike in nsw - one here plans on wearing her scrubs all day, so the country hospital visitors know why she doesnt care if they have the sniffles .... should be an entertaining day!!
now - all the o/s 10clubbers - just remember .... deep breaths .... relaxing thoughts ..... channel your zen ....
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yes, my dear. it'll be back to shared hotel rooms, late nites in bars, and .... oh i guess this time there will be no lists ....
shame that - i liked the list
Damn! I liked the list too! We had fun with that list....especially in Sydney and you bossing everyone around! "Hey you, back of the line!!!"
I don't see all of this as entitlement, I see it as blatant teasing. 10C could have the courtesy to explain whatever, but they choose to rather tease and then pretend nothing's going on. It is funny to watch...but completely unnecessary.
they have contractual obligations to a plethora of business partners ... i'm sure they have there reasons for announcing information when it comes ... the reason why they aren't responding to all these fanatics is because of what i said - they owe no one anything ... to act on it is to reward it ... if people choose to spend hours here refreshing - that is their choice ... anytime something like this comes up - i've always gotten an email giving me the information ...
I don't see all of this as entitlement, I see it as blatant teasing. 10C could have the courtesy to explain whatever, but they choose to rather tease and then pretend nothing's going on. It is funny to watch...but completely unnecessary.
they have contractual obligations to a plethora of business partners ... i'm sure they have there reasons for announcing information when it comes ... the reason why they aren't responding to all these fanatics is because of what i said - they owe no one anything ... to act on it is to reward it ... if people choose to spend hours here refreshing - that is their choice ... anytime something like this comes up - i've always gotten an email giving me the information ...
You're right, and that's why I've been checking email before even opening the web browser. But Kat could just say that nothing is coming...
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Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
People have been going on the standard practice for previous tweets, tours and timings
People have concluded that there's an impending Australian tour announcement from previous tweets, tours and timings? That doesn't make much sense...PJ just played Aussie shows in 2009 and the 10c posts a message to presumably ALL 10c members (of which, Aussies likely compose but a fraction of) about having their memberships/addresses current...why would someone conclude that an impending announcement (of which all 10c members are now awaiting) is an Australian tour (of which just a fraction will be able to attend)?
Given all that, IF there's an impending announcement, it's safe to assume that the announcement will impact all 10c members, not just Aussie ones (or US/Euro ones for that matter).
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You're right, and that's why I've been checkig email before even opening the web browser. But Kat could just say that nothing is coming...
but who knows what's going on? ... maybe there is one date left to confirm with one promoter in one city and he just needs to have his lawyer read over the final agreement and sign it ... so, it could come today but if it doesn't ... it could be tomorrow ... who knows? ... i understand people want to know instantly ... it's part of our nature i guess ...
Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
per the tweet, the thought is that it would be an Ed Solo tour, not Pearl Jam.
It is assumed that it would be in AUS due to the info we are working on.
The hope of the rabid US folks is that there would be a few US dates as well or that we are reading into it wrong and it is in fact US dates (not likely at this point)
also, in regards to your first question, they always precurse tour date announcements with the heads up tweet. Generally nothing else. At least since i started coming here many years ago.
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You're right, and that's why I've been checkig email before even opening the web browser. But Kat could just say that nothing is coming...
but who knows what's going on? ... maybe there is one date left to confirm with one promoter in one city and he just needs to have his lawyer read over the final agreement and sign it ... so, it could come today but if it doesn't ... it could be tomorrow ... who knows? ... i understand people want to know instantly ... it's part of our nature i guess ...
I'm just thinking that a little common courtesy on their part would be nice. If there's details they're waiting on, it's all understandable. But I have a feeling they enjoy everyone here chasing their own tails out of frustration, for the entertainment factor.
Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
People have been going on the standard practice for previous tweets, tours and timings
People have concluded that there's an impending Australian tour announcement from previous tweets, tours and timings? That doesn't make much sense...PJ just played Aussie shows in 2009 and the 10c posts a message to presumably ALL 10c members (of which, Aussies likely compose but a fraction of) about having their memberships/addresses current...why would someone conclude that an impending announcement (of which all 10c members are now awaiting) is an Australian tour (of which just a fraction will be able to attend)?
Given all that, IF there's an impending announcement, it's safe to assume that the announcement will impact all 10c members, not just Aussie ones (or US/Euro ones for that matter).
I was referring to your points 1 and 2
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Back from work and had to spend a long time catching up on all the posts....I think we could turn this thread into a great book on the study of human behavior....very entertaining...far from informative (no announcement) but a brilliant read non the less
Theories and speculation abound...I'm having fun seeing the rotation of 'regulars' as the world turns, night falls, people sleep, and others wake up for their new morning...joined by one common denominator...no bloody clue!!!!! How fun!
Well i am about to leave work / my computer for the day so if anything happens can someone please........
oh wait, nothing is going to happen - who am i kidding.
See you guys bright and early tomorrow - have a good evening.
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This will be the first stage announcement of a bigger thing I believe. And stage 1 will be for Oz, stage 2 for somewhere else, stage 3.....?
The ticket sales will follow this sequence, and I believe the first announcement, first tickets and first people needing their addresses up to date etc (whatever, cutoffs, credit cards ready.... it's late here man) will be the Aussies, with the rest of us to follow (hopefully)
I am basing this on what has happened in the past. I am basing the Oz thing on the Wizard of Oz thing
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All they have to say is sorry, no news today. That's it. When they post a Tweet on Friday to say be up to date at the end of the weekend, and historically they release news immediately after that then yeah, people have a right to feel entitled to at least an update as to when we will hear something. Not entitled to news but entitled to at least an update when they know people are begging for information and refreshing for hours. Of course no one is pointing a gun at people's heads and forcing them to do that but I completely understand that the band means a ton to some of you and you don't want to risk missing tickets going on sale immediately or something. The 10C/Management have that little amount of respect for the fans that they cause people to do that?
It's an endless cycle around here. The same thing happens all of the time. They either tease us with something or newsbreaks elsewhere....then people ask questions/complain.....then people are yelled at for bitching and feeling entitled....then arguments ensue and people are unhappy....i chime in and complain ....then they finally release the news or just ignore it completely and never say a word about it. Remember just a few short weeks ago when people shelled out money for the LOTL box set as a pre-order and the 10 Club wouldn't so much as say it's real or we are working on it? This has been going on for so long and part of me feels as though they love doing this to the members. I have fiercely defended the 10 Club and the mods the past year regarding them not being allowed to release news and I stand by that. But there is zero reason they can't chime in at some point and give some sort of update but they can lock a thread because it's "rude" to discuss that not everyone appreciates the music of Brad. Doing this to your fans/customers isn't rude?
And to those who get mad that people complain and feel entitled, I understand you feel that way and your mind won't be changed. You don't have to respond to this. I'm not looking to start an argument with you and I respect your opinion on the matter. Please respect the opinion of those who feel differently. Can't we all just get along? :thumbup:
All they have to say is sorry, no news today. That's it. When they post a Tweet on Friday to say be up to date at the end of the weekend, and historically they release news immediately after that then yeah, people have a right to feel entitled to at least an update as to when we will hear something. Not entitled to news but entitled to at least an update when they know people are begging for information and refreshing for hours. Of course no one is pointing a gun at people's heads and forcing them to do that but I completely understand that the band means a ton to some of you and you don't want to risk missing tickets going on sale immediately or something. The 10C/Management have that little amount of respect for the fans that they cause people to do that?
It's an endless cycle around here. The same thing happens all of the time. They either tease us with something or newsbreaks elsewhere....then people ask questions/complain.....then people are yelled at for bitching and feeling entitled....then arguments ensue and people are unhappy....i chime in and complain ....then they finally release the news or just ignore it completely and never say a word about it. Remember just a few short weeks ago when people shelled out money for the LOTL box set as a pre-order and the 10 Club wouldn't so much as say it's real or we are working on it? This has been going on for so long and part of me feels as though they love doing this to the members. I have fiercely defended the 10 Club and the mods the past year regarding them not being allowed to release news and I stand by that. But there is zero reason they can't chime in at some point and give some sort of update but they can lock a thread because it's "rude" to discuss that not everyone appreciates the music of Brad. Doing this to your fans/customers isn't rude?
And to those who get mad that people complain and feel entitled, I understand you feel that way and your mind won't be changed. You don't have to respond to this. I'm not looking to start an argument with you and I respect your opinion on the matter. Please respect the opinion of those who feel differently. Can't we all just get along? :thumbup:
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I'm just thinking that a little common courtesy on their part would be nice. If there's details they're waiting on, it's all understandable. But I have a feeling they enjoy everyone here chasing their own tails out of frustration, for the entertainment factor.
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As far as I know the consensus is there are two cryptic references to the Wizard of Oz in the one tweet on page 1 - the man behind the curtain, and the scarecrow. Post 1 is all any of us have to go on!!
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Why are we all so convinced 1) that there is any announcement, 2) that said announcement is about a tour, and 3) that said tour is going to be in Australia?
IF there's a tour, why would it be in Australia? Didn't they just play there last year? And why would they post a cryptic message about everyone having their memberships current etc, if the announcement was about a tour that truly only impacted a fraction of their fans? Let's be honest, Aussie fans are just as passionate as the rest of us, but for sure far less numerous. IF there's an impending big announcement, then my guess is that is has to do with far more than just Australia...
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People have been going on the standard practice for previous tweets, tours and timings
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Damn! I liked the list too! We had fun with that list....especially in Sydney and you bossing everyone around! "Hey you, back of the line!!!"
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they have contractual obligations to a plethora of business partners ... i'm sure they have there reasons for announcing information when it comes ... the reason why they aren't responding to all these fanatics is because of what i said - they owe no one anything ... to act on it is to reward it ... if people choose to spend hours here refreshing - that is their choice ... anytime something like this comes up - i've always gotten an email giving me the information ...
You're right, and that's why I've been checking email before even opening the web browser. But Kat could just say that nothing is coming...
EDA: Instead she would rather just lock threads... :roll:
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People have concluded that there's an impending Australian tour announcement from previous tweets, tours and timings? That doesn't make much sense...PJ just played Aussie shows in 2009 and the 10c posts a message to presumably ALL 10c members (of which, Aussies likely compose but a fraction of) about having their memberships/addresses current...why would someone conclude that an impending announcement (of which all 10c members are now awaiting) is an Australian tour (of which just a fraction will be able to attend)?
Given all that, IF there's an impending announcement, it's safe to assume that the announcement will impact all 10c members, not just Aussie ones (or US/Euro ones for that matter).
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but who knows what's going on? ... maybe there is one date left to confirm with one promoter in one city and he just needs to have his lawyer read over the final agreement and sign it ... so, it could come today but if it doesn't ... it could be tomorrow ... who knows? ... i understand people want to know instantly ... it's part of our nature i guess ...
per the tweet, the thought is that it would be an Ed Solo tour, not Pearl Jam.
It is assumed that it would be in AUS due to the info we are working on.
The hope of the rabid US folks is that there would be a few US dates as well or that we are reading into it wrong and it is in fact US dates (not likely at this point)
also, in regards to your first question, they always precurse tour date announcements with the heads up tweet. Generally nothing else. At least since i started coming here many years ago.
I was referring to your points 1 and 2
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The ticket sales will follow this sequence, and I believe the first announcement, first tickets and first people needing their addresses up to date etc (whatever, cutoffs, credit cards ready.... it's late here man) will be the Aussies, with the rest of us to follow (hopefully)
I am basing this on what has happened in the past. I am basing the Oz thing on the Wizard of Oz thing
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It's an endless cycle around here. The same thing happens all of the time. They either tease us with something or newsbreaks elsewhere....then people ask questions/complain.....then people are yelled at for bitching and feeling entitled....then arguments ensue and people are unhappy....i chime in and complain
And to those who get mad that people complain and feel entitled, I understand you feel that way and your mind won't be changed. You don't have to respond to this. I'm not looking to start an argument with you and I respect your opinion on the matter. Please respect the opinion of those who feel differently. Can't we all just get along? :thumbup:
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that could be it too ... it is quite amusing! ...
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