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GOING TO CALIFORNIA

Pitbull PeterPitbull Peter Posts: 115
edited November 2010 in The Porch
Wouldn't you love to hear PJ cover the Led Zepplin song "Going To California"?

This is perfect PJ music, please oh PJ Gods add this to one of your playlists.

I am sure you all know it, but, If you haven't heard the song, paste this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVLlnQ08OA

let me know your thoughts?
...and now i rub my eyes, for he has returned
seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned
for he still smiles...
and he's still strong
nothing's changed, but the surrounding bullshit that has grown
and now he's home
and we're laughing like we always did
my same old, same old friend...
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  • High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    They do cover it... Given to Fly! :)
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  • jimbojones1138jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    High Fidelity 2000 wrote:
    They do cover it... Given to Fly! :)



    Yeah, what he said!!!
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  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california
    Whoa I did not know this....Did they not dig Given to fly then? I agree with my brother Peter (Pitbull Peter) that I would love to hear PJ cover Going to California, we have had this convo a few times...great to see the pit have at er.
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  • hard2imagine121hard2imagine121 Posts: 67
    They have....October 5, 2005 in Chicago. They did it with Robert Plant along with other Led Zeppelin songs.

    http://www.pearljam.com/show/house-blues-oct-05-2005
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.
  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    marcos wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.
    I think the general thought pattern behind both songs are similar...similar to a vast majority of material out there. They didnt make up rebirth and self rejuivenation...or longing and sorrow. Its a story....That Pearl Jam tells better in my subjective mind:)
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  • GratefulJamGratefulJam Posts: 1,803
    marcos wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.

    I would have to say that Led Zep will always be relevant. :D:D:D
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  • Mitch8415Mitch8415 Posts: 227
    Was listening to PJ radio, and I don't remember which boot it was, but Ed introduced G2F with something like...

    "Here's one of the most beautiful melodies ever created... "Given to Fly to California!"
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  • Pitbull PeterPitbull Peter Posts: 115
    Perhaps taking this one step further, I think this would be a fantastic song for hmmmm lets say an Eddie Solo Event?
    ...and now i rub my eyes, for he has returned
    seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned
    for he still smiles...
    and he's still strong
    nothing's changed, but the surrounding bullshit that has grown
    and now he's home
    and we're laughing like we always did
    my same old, same old friend...
  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    Mitch8415 wrote:
    Was listening to PJ radio, and I don't remember which boot it was, but Ed introduced G2F with something like...

    "Here's one of the most beautiful melodies ever created... "Given to Fly to California!"
    hey seriously why wouldnt Ed draw off a song like Going To California...he probably identified with it like millions of others out there....and its a great song. I for one would love to see Ed sing it.

    The vast majority if not all writters and singers etc...draw from the works of others, simply even just to learn.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    marcos wrote:
    especially when they are no longer relevant.

    Most absurd statement in the history of the internet.
  • Mitch8415Mitch8415 Posts: 227
    Cardinal wrote:
    Mitch8415 wrote:
    Was listening to PJ radio, and I don't remember which boot it was, but Ed introduced G2F with something like...

    "Here's one of the most beautiful melodies ever created... "Given to Fly to California!"
    hey seriously why wouldnt Ed draw off a song like Going To California...he probably identified with it like millions of others out there....and its a great song. I for one would love to see Ed sing it.

    The vast majority if not all writters and singers etc...draw from the works of others, simply even just to learn.


    McCready wrote it, and even said addressed the idea that G2C influenced him when writing G2F.
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  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    GratefulJam wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.

    I would have to say that Led Zep will always be relevant. :D:D:D

    Agree, but Robert Plant looks really disturbing now and I he does circus music now, it's just sad, but I too break out a Zep record every so often and Zep will always be relevant, I just wish Plant would stop.
  • Mitch8415Mitch8415 Posts: 227
    marcos wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.

    The guy that runs Kingston Mines here in Chicago brought up the fact that Zep stole a bunch of blues riffs from Chicago artists the last time I went there and caught some bands... See: Waters, Muddy.
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  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlbeXeYSFDM
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • PilateOfTheStormPilateOfTheStorm Posts: 4,319
    well ive heard of the comparisons but i've never listened to the led zeppelin song.
    gotta say i really like it :)
    had them on my "listen to" list, but never got round to it.
    thanks
  • Mitch8415Mitch8415 Posts: 227
    electricxlovex wrote:
    well ive heard of the comparisons but i've never listened to the led zeppelin song.
    gotta say i really like it :)
    had them on my "listen to" list, but never got round to it.
    thanks

    A guy from the UK had never listened to Going to California.

    wut
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  • Pitbull PeterPitbull Peter Posts: 115
    electricxlovex wrote:
    well ive heard of the comparisons but i've never listened to the led zeppelin song.
    gotta say i really like it :)
    had them on my "listen to" list, but never got round to it.
    thanks


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    ...and now i rub my eyes, for he has returned
    seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned
    for he still smiles...
    and he's still strong
    nothing's changed, but the surrounding bullshit that has grown
    and now he's home
    and we're laughing like we always did
    my same old, same old friend...
  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    I don't think it's any secret that Going To California inspired, to some degree at least, the music to Given To Fly. It's not a ripoff, but a great tribute. Listen to The Who's 'I Can See For Miles' then Breakerfall back to back and you could start the same discussion. Musicians regularly pull from their influences.

    Oh, and to answer the original question, YES I would love to see the full band do a Going To California cover (just PJ, not with Plant and company).
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  • Pitbull PeterPitbull Peter Posts: 115
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    I don't think it's any secret that Going To California inspired, to some degree at least, the music to Given To Fly. It's not a ripoff, but a great tribute. Listen to The Who's 'I Can See For Miles' then Breakerfall back to back and you could start the same discussion. Musicians regularly pull from their influences.

    Oh, and to answer the original question, YES I would love to see the full band do a Going To California cover (just PJ, not with Plant and company).


    You hit it right on the head, I am talking a true cover, not with Plant. :D:D:D
    ...and now i rub my eyes, for he has returned
    seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned
    for he still smiles...
    and he's still strong
    nothing's changed, but the surrounding bullshit that has grown
    and now he's home
    and we're laughing like we always did
    my same old, same old friend...
  • jimbojones1138jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    Pitbull Peter wrote:
    Citizen Zack wrote:
    I don't think it's any secret that Going To California inspired, to some degree at least, the music to Given To Fly. It's not a ripoff, but a great tribute. Listen to The Who's 'I Can See For Miles' then Breakerfall back to back and you could start the same discussion. Musicians regularly pull from their influences.

    Oh, and to answer the original question, YES I would love to see the full band do a Going To California cover (just PJ, not with Plant and company).


    You hit it right on the head, I am talking a true cover, not with Plant. :D:D:D

    yeah, mike mentioned in an interview i have, its prolly disc 4 or 5 of the tv appearances dvd set...where mike said that gtc directly influenced... stone says something along the lines of " great now they can use this clip in court" and than went on to say, " i have only one thing to say ... MUDDY WATERS!"
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    Plant refuses to rest on his past and refuses to be a jukebox of old hits. Can't fault him for that. Some like and dislike the direcetions he's taken, he's doing this for his own interests.

    As for Going to California, HOB was great. Encore #2, PJ comes out and dedicates Given to Fly to Robert Plant. Then, as GTF fades out, Plant and his band come on stage while PJ sits there like at a campfire and Plant does Going to California. Obviously all of this is sort of tongue in cheek. So you can read into this what you want. I read that GTF was inspired by GTC and a bunch of people got upset but the two bands (Plant and PJ) really don't give a crap and are sort of laughing at all the people who are getting upset.

    Following GTC, they played Little Sister(Xmas single), Money, Fool in the Rain, and Thank you. For me personally, that was a pinnacle in "music". My two favorites on stage together doing that stuff.

    Listen to "Heartbreaker" on Led Zeppelin II, and then the solo in "All or none" Boston 2003, night 3. So what?!?!? I think the HOB thing, the R&R HOF performances, Neil Young, Doors, Who... All of this constitutes the old timers recognising PJ as the ones to help carry the baton of rock.
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  • PilateOfTheStormPilateOfTheStorm Posts: 4,319
    Mitch8415 wrote:
    A guy from the UK had never listened to Going to California.

    wut

    Haha yeah it is wierd for a guy from the UK...









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  • joe2468joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    DewieCox wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    especially when they are no longer relevant.

    Most absurd statement in the history of the internet.

    a
    im with you on that ..... ZEP was ..IS...and ALWAYS WILL BE one of the best rock bands to ever walk the face of the planet .... and im not even a die hard zep fan .. but i do own a bunch of cds i just found AN 8 TRACK in a house i was doing work on
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 917
    Mitch8415 wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    jimbojones1138 wrote:
    according to certain members of led zep, given to fly was a direct ripoff of going to california

    Yeah, according to many early blues artists, Led Zep ripped off all there songs, there was even a book written about how they ripped off so much music that they had to go back and change credits in their records. It's funny for them to accuse someone of ripping them off, especially when they are no longer relevant.

    The guy that runs Kingston Mines here in Chicago brought up the fact that Zep stole a bunch of blues riffs from Chicago artists the last time I went there and caught some bands... See: Waters, Muddy.


    Same can be said for the Stones. They have a lot of tunes that are that way. Same as Zeppelin. They loved those old blues guys.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    ^^^Alot of it had to do with lyric changes. Most of the stuff that was "stolen" isn't immediately recognizable, but when paired with the lyrics it puts it over the edge.

    Hendrix, Clapton, ABB and really every other rock band did similar stuff musically with old blues numbers, they just credited or disguised it better.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    joe2468 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    especially when they are no longer relevant.

    Most absurd statement in the history of the internet.

    a
    im with you on that ..... ZEP was ..IS...and ALWAYS WILL BE one of the best rock bands to ever walk the face of the planet .... and im not even a die hard zep fan .. but i do own a bunch of cds i just found AN 8 TRACK in a house i was doing work on
    just cause they are one of the best rock bands doesn't mean they are relevant. look at the who, aerosmith and many other rock artist of the 70's that aren't relevant in todays music landscape.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    metsfan wrote:
    just cause they are one of the best rock bands doesn't mean they are relevant. look at the who, aerosmith and many other rock artist of the 70's that aren't relevant in todays music landscape.


    They're influence is immense. If they release an album(live, greatest hits, whatever) today it's gonna be sittin somewhere close to the top of the charts. Outside of the Beatles nobody touches them.

    They will be relevant as long as popular music exists. To say otherwise is pretty ignorant.


    None of those band you mention are Led fuckin Zeppelin.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    DewieCox wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    just cause they are one of the best rock bands doesn't mean they are relevant. look at the who, aerosmith and many other rock artist of the 70's that aren't relevant in todays music landscape.


    They're influence is immense. If they release an album(live, greatest hits, whatever) today it's gonna be sittin somewhere close to the top of the charts. Outside of the Beatles nobody touches them.

    They will be relevant as long as popular music exists. To say otherwise is pretty ignorant.


    None of those band you mention are Led fuckin Zeppelin.
    being an influence in today's music landscape doesn't mean you are relevant at all

    i hate led zep with a passion




    and if led zep released another greatest hits album i highly doubt it will chart #1. go look at the number of greatest hits albums the who have put out and look at how poorly they sold. shit back in 06 their first new album in 24 years only peaked at number 9 in their own damn fucking country.
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