JFK conspiracy(Jesse Ventura)

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CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,189
edited November 2010 in A Moving Train
Dont know if this has been posted, I found it interesting and will check it out tonight

http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-t ... onfession/
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Dont know if this has been posted, I found it interesting and will check it out tonight

    http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-t ... onfession/
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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  • mikepegg44
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    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Dont know if this has been posted, I found it interesting and will check it out tonight

    http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-t ... onfession/


    if you see professor James Fetzer mentioned anywhere in this piece, turn it off. I had him in my UMD days and that man is as jack ass as they come.

    Also, is anyone surprised that a person hosting a show about how their were two shooters was unable to recreate the shooting? someone on the discovery channel did that i believe, it might have been NGC.
    I wish Jack Ruby had never shot him, then this story would just die already.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    he is a master marksman, to this day. Oswald was not. that means (IN THEORY) it would have been nearly impossible for Oswald to be the shooter. ALMOST. I'm pretty sure,though, at this point, nothing can be proven 100%.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Dont know if this has been posted, I found it interesting and will check it out tonight

    http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-t ... onfession/


    if you see professor James Fetzer mentioned anywhere in this piece, turn it off. I had him in my UMD days and that man is as jack ass as they come.

    Also, is anyone surprised that a person hosting a show about how their were two shooters was unable to recreate the shooting? someone on the discovery channel did that i believe, it might have been NGC.
    I wish Jack Ruby had never shot him, then this story would just die already.
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  • Shawshank
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    I've been to Dealey Plaza, and it's a fascinating place to me since it looks exactly like it did in the pictures and vid from that time. If I remember correctly there's actually a small section of curb that you can easily tell was cut out and replaced and it's right near where the fatal shot occurred. Theorists say that no one knows what happened to that section of curb and that it likely would have determined a shot came from somewhere other than the book depository. :roll:

    I don't mind the conspiracy part of it all. I find it interesting. Hell there's even a conspiracy that John Wilkes Booth escaped and lived out his life in Texas and Oklahoma. I think they will make conspiracies about anything.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    the Mafia did it, both John and Bobby pissed off the Godfathers and they set it up.
    conspiracy solved... ;)
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I watched this show last nite - and watch it regularly as well. Most of the shows state already known details and facts, but put them in a certain light with unproven certainty. Creating motive or potential guilt does not equate to fact or 100% guilt, but that seems to be an after thought of most who believe in all these theories. In terms of the JFK shooting, I don't think we'll ever find out for certain what really occurred mostly because there's way too much mis-information and facts which can be loosely connected. I personally believe Oswald either was a patsy or part of a great group that carried it out, the specifics is all grey and unclear.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,874
    i did not see the show, but the confessions of E Howard Hunt are quite interesting... george hw bush was in dealey plaza that day as well...

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Yeah they spoke to Hunt's son in the show and reference the confessions tapes... also show and talk bout Bush's possible involvement. The Bush picture to me isn't 100% definitive. Some of the features match up, but it's not clear to me to say 100% I believe it, also his clothing, haircut and look are common for the time, so it could simply be another person with similar features and such. Like I said before, I don't think we'll ever have a clear answer on all of this stuff, unless the government releases full details via old files and footage, etc... and even if that did happen - who believes what they say?
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i did not see the show, but the confessions of E Howard Hunt are quite interesting... george hw bush was in dealey plaza that day as well...

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... ession.htm
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I wish Jack Ruby had never shot him, then this story would just die already.

    Is that right? So you think Oswald was a lone gunman, and that a single bullet is able to pass through two people, after changing direction in mid-air, and then land intact on the side of the road?

    Not to mention the ton of other evidence pointing to multiple gunmen.

    Also, how do you explain away the Zapruder film? Kennedy was clearly shot from the front. He had an entrance wound in the front of his head and an exit wound at the back of his head. How do you explain that?
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Byrnzie wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I wish Jack Ruby had never shot him, then this story would just die already.

    Is that right? So you think Oswald was a lone gunman, and that a single bullet is able to pass through two people, after changing direction in mid-air, and then land intact on the side of the road?

    Not to mention the ton of other evidence pointing to multiple gunmen.

    Also, how do you explain away the Zapruder film? Kennedy was clearly shot from the front. He had an entrance wound in the front of his head and an exit wound at the back of his head. How do you explain that?


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,874
    wow, 47 years ago today he was taken from us. i would like to have seen what would have happened had he lived and served a full term or even two...

    RIP.

    i believe that we will never know all the answers of who murdered him and why. to me the fact is he is dead, the who and the why are lesser issues to the main issue that he died. and i lament that we will never realize the extent of what we lost that day in dallas.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I wish Jack Ruby had never shot him, then this story would just die already.

    Is that right? So you think Oswald was a lone gunman, and that a single bullet is able to pass through two people, after changing direction in mid-air, and then land intact on the side of the road?

    Not to mention the ton of other evidence pointing to multiple gunmen.

    Also, how do you explain away the Zapruder film? Kennedy was clearly shot from the front. He had an entrance wound in the front of his head and an exit wound at the back of his head. How do you explain that?


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  • MK1980
    MK1980 Nottingham, UK Posts: 291
    Bobby K pissed off the likes of Carlos Marcello, Sam Giancana, et al during his tenure as AG, the boys ordered Jack clipped and hey presto it was done...there shouldn't be a person alive today that actually believes L H oswald acted 1) on his own 2) off his own back. Oswald was the fall guy...J Ruby (a night club owner who himself had mob ties) was ordered to kill oswald so he wouldn't be able to talk/id anyone else involved in the assassination...LBJ didn't care about getting to the truth, J E Hoover hated the kennedy clan, the warren commission was an exercise in promoting what the govm't wanted the public to believe.
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  • Byrnzie
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    MK1980 wrote:
    there shouldn't be a person alive today that actually believes L H oswald acted 1) on his own 2) off his own back.

    Unfortuantely there are. Some people will believe whatever those in power tell them to believe, even when the facts are right in front of them.
  • OutOfBreath
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    Byrnzie wrote:
    Unfortuantely there are. Some people will believe whatever those in power tell them to believe, even when the facts are right in front of them.

    Unfortunately, there is ample quantities of people that will believe the exact opposite of what they perceive "those in power" say on that basis alone as well. Dupes go both ways.

    As for the JFK assasination, i find it hard to believe Oswald was all on his own in that one. Just thought I'd point out that many (not you necessarily) are as easily susceptible to conspiracy hacks as they claim "regular folks" are to official statements.

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  • pandora
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  • Pepe Silvia
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    Byrnzie wrote:
    MK1980 wrote:
    there shouldn't be a person alive today that actually believes L H oswald acted 1) on his own 2) off his own back.

    Unfortuantely there are. Some people will believe whatever those in power tell them to believe, even when the facts are right in front of them.


    this came up in another thread a while back (jfk's assassination, not the show) and some here argued people have recreated the exact scenario with a lone gunman..... :roll: :lol:

    i especially liked this claim:
    "you clearly see an exit wound on his forehead as his body slumps to the side. this back and to the left olver stone shit is a bit overblown"

    as for ventura's show....i've only seen 2 or 3 episodes and it seems more about hype than substance. take his 9/11 episode for instance where a good bit of the show was spent on some random shmuck who claimed he knew people that had inside information and would go on camera, then they were too afraid to be interviewed and he couldn't tell him what they knew, then he could tell him what they knew but not on camera, then ok he can say it on camera afterall.....what a complete waste. my favorite scene, though, was when he showed up at night to the location where they have 9/11 debris and for some odd reason he seemed shocked the doors were locked and no one would let him in and he said things like "why won't they let me inside? what don't they want me to see!?" did he really expect to just stroll into the place picking shit up and inspecting it at night??
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  • FredFlintstone
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    MK1980 wrote:
    Bobby K pissed off the likes of Carlos Marcello, Sam Giancana, et al during his tenure as AG, the boys ordered Jack clipped and hey presto it was done...there shouldn't be a person alive today that actually believes L H oswald acted 1) on his own 2) off his own back. Oswald was the fall guy...J Ruby (a night club owner who himself had mob ties) was ordered to kill oswald so he wouldn't be able to talk/id anyone else involved in the assassination...LBJ didn't care about getting to the truth, J E Hoover hated the kennedy clan, the warren commission was an exercise in promoting what the govm't wanted the public to believe.


    So the "Mob" sends Jack Ruby (one of the biggest chatterboxes in Dallas and completely unreliable) to "silence" Oswald. Yet they wait until 2 days after the shooting (thereby allowing LHO to say whatever secrets he may have had without interruption to police for TWO DAYS) even though documented photographic evidence and film places Ruby at the Dallas Police headquarters on the day Oswald was arrested. Why not rub him out there? Why not rub him out before LHO is arrested? It's stupid nonsense.

    Jack Ruby wasn't involved in some grand conspiracy. He is the LAST guy they would have wanted keeping a secret of this magnitude.

    His dying words were "There was no one else. Just me". Look it up.

    THERE IS ZERO DOUBT that Oswald shot JFK. ZERO.
    Now whether others were involved we will never ever know. EVER.
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  • Shawshank
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    They just honored Temple Bowley here the other day. He was the one who found officer Tippet and called for help. I'm actually surprised he didn't get more wrapped up in this conspiracy crap. He not only found officer Tippet, but he had a couple of high powered rifles in the trunk of his car (supposedly going deer hunting), AND he worked as a doorman for Jack Ruby for years.

    If you really want to twist it around Hollywood style, you would have him and LHO working together. They both got into the same getaway vehicle. They are pulled over by Tippet. The officer gets suspicious, so they take him out (3 in the chest and one to the head). Bowley tells LHO to move it, and stays behind to cover for him while he gets away. He uses Tippet's police radio to call for assistance. He puts together a cover story that he just happened across the body and was trying to help. 47 years later he gets a medal for it. I'm just saying. ;)

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