Pearl Jam Radio comes to Sirius/XM

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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    just checking to see if you mailed my plane ticket for the PJ Fan round table discussions. :P :wave: :lol:


    keep spreading the jam.
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  • Synapses Flashing
    Synapses Flashing Ventura, CA Posts: 86
    NHiding wrote:
    That is where the difference between the online PJ Radio and the Sirius/XM comes in, especially as the Sirius one gets off the ground in these first few weeks. The online PJ Radio explores more vastness of the live catalog, while Sirius/XM is a bit more streamlined for the average fan, as well as the hardcore. An interesting balance to achieve. But I hear you on the versions and we're working on getting more and different versions of things into their system, which also can't hold every version of every song at the same time. We are dealing with some technical limitations, but give it a bit more time and more versions will be making their way in.

    That is interesting info. Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't certain if the online and Sirius versions were the same, but I suspected that space would be a limiting factor due to the huge number of recordings in the PJ catalog (live and studio). I can appreciate the challenge in trying to appeal to both hardcore and casual fans. A friend of mine who is a casual fan observed this repetitiveness as well, which was part of my motivation in digging a little deeper. He first noticed it after a full length concert was played, when a song that had just been played in the concert was followed pretty quickly (within an hour) by the same song. It may have been a different version but he was sort of turned off by hearing the same song so quickly. Does the program that determine the playlist consider previously played song titles as well as song versions in determining which song to play next?
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  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,909
    That is interesting info. Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't certain if the online and Sirius versions were the same, but I suspected that space would be a limiting factor due to the huge number of recordings in the PJ catalog (live and studio). I can appreciate the challenge in trying to appeal to both hardcore and casual fans. A friend of mine who is a casual fan observed this repetitiveness as well, which was part of my motivation in digging a little deeper. He first noticed it after a full length concert was played, when a song that had just been played in the concert was followed pretty quickly (within an hour) by the same song. It may have been a different version but he was sort of turned off by hearing the same song so quickly. Does the program that determine the playlist consider previously played song titles as well as song versions in determining which song to play next?

    That is my #1 pet peeve and steps have been taken to make sure that doesn't happen again. There is definitely a song hour separation in effect, and when he heard that it might have been in the very early going before some programming rules were in place.
  • Veddernarian
    Veddernarian Posts: 1,924
    NHiding wrote:
    by Synapses Flashing » Nov 10th, '10, 12:18
    Really been enjoying PJ radio on Sirius. The only criticism I would have is that the playlist seems to be a bit repetitive at times. Given the hundreds of live recordings available and the vastness of their catalog it would seem that the chances for hearing the same exact track from a specific show in the same day, or even the same week, would be remote. Yet I've observed this on multiple occasions over the last week or so. Take a cover like Kick Out The Jams for example, which according to PJ's official web site has been played live 16 times over the last 6 years. But if you look at the playlist stats from PJ radio, of the 9 times the song has been played on the radio in the last week, all but one of them comes from the MSG show this year. And on a few of those days the exact same track was played more than once. I find that odd. I checked several other random songs and discovered the same sort of repetitiveness with many of them. I can see how you could play the same song more than once a day, but if they do that wouldn't it better to pull from different shows?

    That is where the difference between the online PJ Radio and the Sirius/XM comes in, especially as the Sirius one gets off the ground in these first few weeks. The online PJ Radio explores more vastness of the live catalog, while Sirius/XM is a bit more streamlined for the average fan, as well as the hardcore. An interesting balance to achieve. But I hear you on the versions and we're working on getting more and different versions of things into their system, which also can't hold every version of every song at the same time. We are dealing with some technical limitations, but give it a bit more time and more versions will be making their way in.

    It would be cool if we had in this forum, a thread where people nominated their favorite versions of songs performed live. Coming from this forum, it would be considered as fan picks given we're all fan enough to join this forum and participate and go to countless shows and buy zillions of bootlegs. So maybe those could be a priority. Or possibly have a fan-picks hour or something like that where these are featured. Maybe a 15 second soundbite intro from the fan as to why this was a pick. Or the DJ reads why this was a fan's pick. I'd pick "Know your rights Melbourne 2003" for example as that 1st airing was so raw and angry. "Black Pittsburgh 2000", what an incredible Mike solo, and one of the only long Beeeeee's of 2000. Or the Wash umbrella incident during that show. Or the fan singing Lukin in St Paul(I believe) 2003 where Ed was too sick to sing it himself and then the fan absolutely nailed it. Long Road Mountain view 2003 was such a powerful version!
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Veddernarian wrote:
    NHiding wrote:
    by Synapses Flashing » Nov 10th, '10, 12:18
    Really been enjoying PJ radio on Sirius. The only criticism I would have is that the playlist seems to be a bit repetitive at times. Given the hundreds of live recordings available and the vastness of their catalog it would seem that the chances for hearing the same exact track from a specific show in the same day, or even the same week, would be remote. Yet I've observed this on multiple occasions over the last week or so. Take a cover like Kick Out The Jams for example, which according to PJ's official web site has been played live 16 times over the last 6 years. But if you look at the playlist stats from PJ radio, of the 9 times the song has been played on the radio in the last week, all but one of them comes from the MSG show this year. And on a few of those days the exact same track was played more than once. I find that odd. I checked several other random songs and discovered the same sort of repetitiveness with many of them. I can see how you could play the same song more than once a day, but if they do that wouldn't it better to pull from different shows?

    That is where the difference between the online PJ Radio and the Sirius/XM comes in, especially as the Sirius one gets off the ground in these first few weeks. The online PJ Radio explores more vastness of the live catalog, while Sirius/XM is a bit more streamlined for the average fan, as well as the hardcore. An interesting balance to achieve. But I hear you on the versions and we're working on getting more and different versions of things into their system, which also can't hold every version of every song at the same time. We are dealing with some technical limitations, but give it a bit more time and more versions will be making their way in.

    It would be cool if we had in this forum, a thread where people nominated their favorite versions of songs performed live. Coming from this forum, it would be considered as fan picks given we're all fan enough to join this forum and participate and go to countless shows and buy zillions of bootlegs. So maybe those could be a priority. Or possibly have a fan-picks hour or something like that where these are featured. Maybe a 15 second soundbite intro from the fan as to why this was a pick. Or the DJ reads why this was a fan's pick. I'd pick "Know your rights Melbourne 2003" for example as that 1st airing was so raw and angry. "Black Pittsburgh 2000", what an incredible Mike solo, and one of the only long Beeeeee's of 2000. Or the Wash umbrella incident during that show. Or the fan singing Lukin in St Paul(I believe) 2003 where Ed was too sick to sing it himself and then the fan absolutely nailed it. Long Road Mountain view 2003 was such a powerful version!


    Sounds like a very good idea!

    Am I right that tonight on Sirius is the Vic show from Chicago 2007?

    edit: or was that last night in the early hours!!? I'm not great at timezones!! :lol:
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  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,909
    The Vic show played already. And we'll certainly be incorporating fan input and favorites on the channel. All in the works. The All Encompassing Trip fan roundtable call in show will premier on Wed. the 17th at 5pm Eastern/2pm pacific. More details soon.
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    NHiding wrote:
    TThe All Encompassing Trip fan roundtable call in show will premier on Wed. the 17th at 5pm Eastern/2pm pacific. More details soon.


    Great news!! Thanks for that - will put a note in my diary and try not to miss this one!
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  • Synapses Flashing
    Synapses Flashing Ventura, CA Posts: 86
    Just curious but did the Vic recording come from the band or was it an audience recording? I remember hearing snippets from that show but the quality was pretty poor and I don't recall there being an official boot. Sorry I missed it on the radio. Is there a replay planned or are the individual songs part of the rotation?
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  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,909
    Vic is an audience at this point. Songs from that are in current rotation as well.
  • DD10798
    DD10798 San Francisco Posts: 46
    i've heard mad season's "november hotel" a few times now. i forgot how cool that song is.
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  • northjersey78
    northjersey78 Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 80
    Is this station permanent?
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  • The Juggler
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    NHiding wrote:
    Vic is an audience at this point. Songs from that are in current rotation as well.

    so you are "The Rob," eh?
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  • Vedder_Girl77
    Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,341
    NHiding wrote:
    The Vic show played already. And we'll certainly be incorporating fan input and favorites on the channel. All in the works. The All Encompassing Trip fan roundtable call in show will premier on Wed. the 17th at 5pm Eastern/2pm pacific. More details soon.

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    san jose from '95 today was tops. play more old school stuff like that!

    i heard red mosquito and brain of j before those albums even came out.

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  • gndcd402
    gndcd402 Posts: 2,576
    I'm buying Sirius pretty much solely for this (and Lithium)...it better be permanent!!!
  • d1witdafunk
    d1witdafunk Posts: 226
    hey rob i was wondering how long is the all encompasing trip gonna be? 1 hour show or 2?....i will be tuning in tomorrow at 5pm eastern should be interesting keep the good work up
  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,909
    Call in show is gonna be one hour to start with. The number to call in tomorrow is 888-897-4748. Should be fun!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    NHiding wrote:
    Call in show is gonna be one hour to start with. The number to call in tomorrow is 888-897-4748. Should be fun!


    will this be replayed at anytime?

    what does it consist of too?
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  • SM228170
    SM228170 Posts: 24
    My wife is still complaining that there are other channels besides PJ... I just say "shut up and listen honey". :evil:
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  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,909
    there will be several replays through the week. what's it consist of? we'll be winging it and opening it up to you guys for the first one, then we'll have topics to focus on from there on out. Philly Spectrum will be the focus on 11/24 as they're currently tearing the place down.

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