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my ONLY complaint with PJ
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im sure some of you, or all of you are sick of hearing "tour everywhere possible PJ!!!" and all these other small complaints, but im sure some may agree on this one:
PJ writes tooo many 3 minute songs. anytime i listen to a boot, soo many of there songs are 3 minutes. they play 30+ songs per concert, but alot of those songs are not long at all. i think for PJ's next album they should write some 5-7 minute songs, experiment a little.
anyone feel the same?
PJ writes tooo many 3 minute songs. anytime i listen to a boot, soo many of there songs are 3 minutes. they play 30+ songs per concert, but alot of those songs are not long at all. i think for PJ's next album they should write some 5-7 minute songs, experiment a little.
anyone feel the same?
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This was particularily noticeable with the RHCP album coming out at the same time as PJ's latest. The Peppers put out a double album where you are hard pressed to find a song where they don't let Fusciante shine. Pearl Jam fans seem to worship Mike, and I think he's great, but why doesn't he get his props?
Just to back up my point a bit, look at the first singles off the last couple albums. I Am Mine & WWS barely have anything you can call a "solo" and what is there is all too brief. I'm aware we've gotten tracks like 'All or None' and 'Life Wasted' off the last two as well, but with Ed playing increasingly more guitar as the band has evolved, I would think Mike would get leads in greater quantity. I'm not saying all the tracks have to have Alive or Immortality solos on them, but it just seems like McCready gets gipped.
Sorry to kind of hijack your thread with my McCready rant, but I think this has a direct relation to the length of some of the songs. Particularily the news ones.
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True.. they also play everything so fast though in concert. They like to have the 30+ song count per show i think. That is their thing... they wouldn't have time to do that if they slowed down and or played longer songs. I would love some on a new record though. Inside Hand Job is long... but i dont love it. I know I'm in the minoity hear but its no Layla. If its going to be long it better be awesome.
nah your kinda right about that. there hasnt been a PJ song where mike really shines for awhile, or since vitalogy. i mean i LOVE his solo in severed hand and life wasted. and his song writing is great, but there hasnt been a song where mike has jammed out for awhile. the only songs he solos out on is the old ones, or covers. they need to write a song that allows a great extended solo, or great outro. big wave has potential for a sick outro but they wont do it, they just end the song at even less then 3 minutes, id like the outro to extend to at about 3:30.
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I wouldn't want them to play any less short songs, but I would like to see them play more long songs, or extend some short songs once in a while, definitely.
Coming from a jam-band / progressive rock background, I don't think PJ concerts are particularly long either.
I'd like to see them take on a more 2-set show than 1 set + 2 long encores. Maybe they'll do that at Bonnarroo!
But other than that, I think 3 minute songs are fine. Don't make a long song just so it can be long - it's gotta be justifiably long, if that makes any sense! Although if they're going to be creating 7 minute epics like Inside Job, then I'm not complaining.
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Eddie's punk influenced ruined everything. :(
I know people here already knew about my hate for punk.
But they did end the self-titled CD with a 7-minute epic song.
still hopes for more that in the future.
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Not to divert the thread again, but I feel the same way, but about Jeff. I think he is highly underutilized.. look at RHCP and other great bands who have more rockin out-there bass lines... forget "let Stone sing"... I say "give us more Jeff!"
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I miss Mike with His solo, I wish He will play in some PJ songs like in "Reach Down". It was so amazing!!!!
And... recently i was thinking why so rarely I can hear bass. Maybe someday Jeff will take a chance to show us the real power of bass?
BTW. I heard that in music business is a standard to play 3 minutes songs. This is the best time for song - people are not bored os sth. Well, i guess there is some thuth in it...
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to the op, i like longer songs. and they play the songs TOO DAMN FAST!
couldn't agree with you more. I worship McCready and would love to see him soloing on songs like he used to back in the day.
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Wow, you must have run out of stuff to bitch about. I never really gave much thought to the length of their songs. I will say, that's one of the things I can't stand about jam bands, their songs are too fucking long, it's musical masturbation. I went to a Lenny Kravitz show a few weeks ago and he did like a 15-20 minute version of "Let Love Rule" and after about 10 minutes I was like..."I get it we've got to let love rule, now let's move it along."
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Not bashing at all, but it's ironic that your screenname is from a song that's less than 3 minutes long...
Anyways, I love their music just the way it is.
This is something I have never noticed before.
Nor does it bother me...
I love the ITW soundtrack...very short tunes, just wish there were more...
Love Mike but the idea of adding more solo stuff turns me off...it starts to become like METAL posing...lost interest in that by age 15. All the solos in Even Flow lead to a pee break lately.
All that said, PJ has the talent to make a longer song work...many haven't worked for me although.
Ed's punk influence is very cool by the way
I agree....
Interesting jams I'm all for...extended soloing not so much
Yep. I love Mikey but it seems like every other song he's got an extended solo for way to long.
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You should check out this album called "Yield." I don't know about "rockin' out-there bass lines" -- I don't even know what that means -- but Jeff plays his ass off on that album. His fingerprints are all over it.
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I don’t know though, it seems awful knit-picky to make that criticism!
Probably the first time I was truly blown away by McCready was with his work in “Mad Season”. Probably the song, “November Hotel” in particular. He just takes you on a ride in that one! I would like to hear some songs that really let McCready shine. The same can be said for Jeff. However, I don’t think that Jeff is underutilized. I think his work often goes under-appreciated. But, every song can’t be like “Go” or “Jeremy”!
The band has never been about the conventional “rock band” traditions. They’ve always been an amazing mix of styles that are familiar, yet somehow completely unique. Pearl Jam’s music is so difficult to categorize or pigeon hole into one genre or “type” of music. That’s probably a big part of what kept them around for so long.
With all of that being said, some of my favorite songs are well over three minutes! Hell, I could listen to their studio jam sessions for hours and not get bored with it!
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