Phil Collins

Patrick Bateman wrote:

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

Christy, take off your robe.

Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

Sabrina, remove your dress.

In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism.

Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little.

Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds.

Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it.

But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

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Cob wrote:

Phil Collins as a singer is okay, but anyone who knows anything about rock and roll knows he was a very good drummer, he not only played with Genesis, but as a session musician Brand X, Brian Eno, John Cale, Robert Fripp, he is/was a very good drummer.

Get_Right wrote:

phill collins
his first two solo records are fantasic
and I really liked lamb lies down, seconds out, abacab, studio disc on three sides live and a couple of tracks from genesis-invisible touch was terrible

I think it was when he did against all odds, that his music turned poppy and mushy
If he is maligned, it is because a lot of younger folks remember him for the work he did after 1985-which was not as good (IMHO) as his earlier work

I saw him back in 85 and it was a fantastic show-chester thompson and phil dueling drums, the power of "I dont care anymore" and the tower of power horns kicking but on "I cannot believe its true"

Saw him again in like 89 and it was more like a dick clark production

But the man is immensely talented-if you were around in 85 and you saw him play BOTH live aid shows, then you know what I am talking about.

Favorite songs:
"I missed again" and all of face value-terrific record
"through these walls"
"I dont care anymore"
"cannot believe its true"

I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.