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The term "Grunge"
ForceofNature101
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A lot of people I have talked to are against the term "grunge" because it was coined by journalists to market the style and music of bands coming from Seattle in the early nineties.
But it's hard to deny that the bands coming out at the time did have a similar vibe to them. Sure the bands sounded different from each other, but you can feel the Seattle vibe to it.
What is your reason for being either for it or against the term?
But it's hard to deny that the bands coming out at the time did have a similar vibe to them. Sure the bands sounded different from each other, but you can feel the Seattle vibe to it.
What is your reason for being either for it or against the term?
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What it is then?
For me it represents a time in my life when I lived it... 1990-1995 was the time I even called myself a grunger... long hair, knee length shorts, checked shirt and playing in a band that wholeheartedly wanted to be in Seattle.... which at the time was a long way from London England. I can actually remember telling people Grunge meant simply getting up in the morning and putting the same clothes on I wore the day before! I am sure that can also be applied to many other eras of music too......
Very few, if any, musical movements coined their own genres or names to separate them from the rest... This period of time was no different.
I would not worry about what other people think, just decide what it means to you and enjoy it.
Is it still alive today? well, in my opinion not really. I put clean clothes on daily.
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So the term Grunge Music has been around at least since the late 1970's
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Grunge= Nirvana,Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Sound Garden,Screaming Trees, Etc.
Music and Lyrics from the soul, about real emotions and real people, it was mostly ugly, angry, and pissed about the world, So was i.
it was Rock, but not Heavy Metal, more like that deep soulful 70's Rock, before Kiss existed.
and Most importantly, it was Death to the Hair Bands!!! No more Winger, Cinderella, Britney Fox, Nelson Twins or Warrent.
I'd like to Thank REM and Tom Petty for holding me over in those horrible years between 1988 and 1991.
So that's my Grunge Experiance, Really wish i went to that 94' Nirvana Show, thought there would be time enough in the future.
Thank God for PJ, may not have been grunge since 10, but been the greatist band of my life time.
Some say it unfairly pigeonholed a lot of bands. You could say it also exponentially helped a lot of bands. You can't deny that there was a definite "sound" during that time period, and that's what grunge means. Are all the bands that came from that era and/or area grunge? Did all grunge bands have to come from Seattle? No. As grunge is defined, I don't believe that PJ necessarily fit. PJ was blues rock at the time. Neither did AIC. They were what I'd call sludge metal. Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, Soundgarden, among many others, I'd call grunge.
There were bands from my area, Winnipeg, that also laid claim to a lot of bands that were considered grunge; The Watchmen, The New Meanies, Leaderhouse, etc.
Grunge is the correct term for a certain sound in that era.
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I personally think the term theoretically could be used to describe a genre of music, but as the 90s wore on the term was thrown around far to often to the point where it was basically comparing bands whose sound wasnt even close to being similar.
The term is probably better suited to describe a short era of music rather than the genre itself.
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Someone brought up Neil young, he is credited as the father of grunge, and yes there was some influence.
I always loved how Krist Noveselec described "grunge." I paraphrase, he said something like it "sounded like a mildew on shower tile walls and curtains."
I always loved that explanation.
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They wore flannel because of the weather in Seattle. 99 percent of rock musicians have long hair atleast at sometime. Everyone has wore ripped jeans.
By the way did you notice you named things that have nothing to do with music? You are talking about an image not a music style.
The 80's transformation musically inspired the whole new wave thing.
All bands in the "grunge" era had a distinctive sound and that to me is what defines a "genre." I agree that they dress a certain way according to the weather, but from a media, and trend standpoint in music it was part of the whole package. Music genres and images go hand in hand.
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I only really liked PJ and Soundgarden out of that 'scene' at the time really - alongside lots of other bands artists and genres around in the early 90s. I like hearing it today though as it makes me a bit nostalgic. I can enjoy Nirvana more nowadays, but it's all just rock and roll isn't it? Even never mind the bollocks just sounds more and more like a rock n roll album as time passes I think!!
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I was gonna reply, but then I read this and concluded I'd only change 3 or 4 words in all of it.
So please let me borrow your words, lad!