Poster Questions

topaztopaz Posts: 301
edited August 2010 in The Porch
Dear kind PJ poster coolios,

I was just wondering how the PJ posters work, what is A/P? Artist's Print? Aren't they all prints? What is the difference between a signed/numbered print and one that looks exactly the same but with no number/sig? When 10c sell posters, do they sell them S/N?

In case it's not blindingly obvious, I am a newbie poster geek, just received my very first one in the mail today and am wondering wondering how the poster gig works. And no, I'm not trying to figure out the worth of my poster on ebay, I'm not ashamed to say that it bought a tear to my eye when I unrolled it, it's mine for as long as I am mine!! (see that what I did just there)

It's official, my first poster: Christchurch '09. Just. Epic.

Appreciate any answers, cheers
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  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    No, the 10C sales are not signed/numbered. Typically they are the same prints that the artist sells on their web sites, but the artist usually signs/numbers them increasing the value (and some people want them signed/numbered). Sometimes they use different inks (SLC 09) . Whatever you do, do not keep it rolled up in the tube, it will mess up the poster after time.

    and that poster you have is a great one, I have mine in a solid black frame and it looks good (for a very cheap frame)
  • dislocateddislocated Posts: 599
    How does keeping it rolled up in a tube ruin the poster? Unfortunatly, I still have ally of mine in tubes.
  • weekapaug19weekapaug19 Posts: 2,293
    Some of the more knowledgeable poster people can probably explain better, but over time they will be more fragile and the rolls in the poster may not come out very easily. I'm guessing they might turn into creases, I'm not sure about that. I just know everybody stresses do not keep them in tubes, they will get damaged over time.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,434
    Some of the more knowledgeable poster people can probably explain better

    Hoff, that's your cue! :D
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    edited August 2010
    not to step on hoffs toes here but
    Poster tubes are for mailing purposes only,
    ( * Roller Marks - from being rolled up in the tube for so long the poster board / paper literally gets rolls every half inch or so . )
    Definitely not for storage.
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  • CaptainBCaptainB Posts: 59
    i'm new to this too:) what's the best way to flatten posters while i wait to get them framed?
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    edited August 2010
    I Use 2 sheets of cardboard, craft paper and the security and safety that is under my bed.
    I also store all of my prints in a presentation portfolio case- the best 200 + bucks i have ever spent ( besides the actual costs of my prints ;) )


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  • heres a question for ya....

    I ordered two posters on Monday thru 10c - Hartford and Boston. I got 2 emails right after, confirming receipt of my order....I received one email on Tuesday, indicating my order would be shipped...

    I understand from the Goods section that the posters are mailed separately.....should I be receiving another email confirming the mailing...or should I consider the one email for both?? The second email did not specify what the order was that was being shipped
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    heres a question for ya....

    I ordered two posters on Monday thru 10c - Hartford and Boston. I got 2 emails right after, confirming receipt of my order....I received one email on Tuesday, indicating my order would be shipped...

    I understand from the Goods section that the posters are mailed separately.....should I be receiving another email confirming the mailing...or should I consider the one email for both?? The second email did not specify what the order was that was being shipped
    this was only for one poster,i guess you get the second mail shortly..
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  • heres a question for ya....

    I ordered two posters on Monday thru 10c - Hartford and Boston. I got 2 emails right after, confirming receipt of my order....I received one email on Tuesday, indicating my order would be shipped...

    I understand from the Goods section that the posters are mailed separately.....should I be receiving another email confirming the mailing...or should I consider the one email for both?? The second email did not specify what the order was that was being shipped
    this was only for one poster,i guess you get the second mail shortly..

    thanks D
    now i wonder if i should b worried...cus the two posters were ordered seconds apart....
    but i imagine 10c is busy these days w/ all the poster sales
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  • DE483DE483 Posts: 496
    I just bought that same presentation case and it is incredible. Great way to store posters so you can see them whenever you want. Nice thing is that you can add more pages to it down the road. Pages are $32 for 5. The binder holds up to 40 pages. I have an extra one- questions, send me a PM, I will provide details, and maybe we can work a trade.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    heres a question for ya....

    I ordered two posters on Monday thru 10c - Hartford and Boston. I got 2 emails right after, confirming receipt of my order....I received one email on Tuesday, indicating my order would be shipped...

    I understand from the Goods section that the posters are mailed separately.....should I be receiving another email confirming the mailing...or should I consider the one email for both?? The second email did not specify what the order was that was being shipped
    this was only for one poster,i guess you get the second mail shortly..

    thanks D
    now i wonder if i should b worried...cus the two posters were ordered seconds apart....
    but i imagine 10c is busy these days w/ all the poster sales
    i bought 3 european posters last week,2 shipping mails come together,the other the next day...think positive.. :) all will work fine..
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    JimmyV wrote:
    Some of the more knowledgeable poster people can probably explain better

    Hoff, that's your cue! :D


    Gotcha!

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    This is general art collecting info:
    -Limited editions are prints which are numbered, limited to that number that is designated by the artist. So each print will have consecutive numbers: 1/250 2/250 3/250 4/250 all the way up to 249/250 250/250.

    -Artist's proofs used to be a test run of prints for the artist, and then when they had a good test run, the artist approves the run for production, and the prints on-hand the artist would write "AP" or "Artist Proof" and number them out of a lower quantity. 1/25 2/25 3/25 and so on.

    -Open edition prints - most artists in the fine-art world will not offer open-edition prints (unsigned, unnumbered) if they are offering limited editions. But for these concert posters, to my knowledge, are only available as either Open editions or AP's.

    ...since AP's are inherently more limited than the other two categories, they are typically more valuable.


    The longer a poster sits in a tube, the more the paper remembers that shape and the harder it is to get flat later on. Also, brown tubes are acidic. That means that they outgas and that can stain a poster yellow, and make them drier and more brittle. Short term it's negligible, but long term it's something to be concerned about. If tube storage is absolutely necessary for long term, don't use brown tubes, use clear or PVC tubes as those shouldn't have any acidity, though you'll still have the curl in the paper to deal with.

    JM9427 wrote:
    i'm new to this too:) what's the best way to flatten posters while i wait to get them framed?

    Buy some acid free foamboard (though regular "shiny" foamboard is ok short term) that is larger than the poster. Carefully unroll the poster and sandwich the poster between two sheets of AF Foamboard. Once the two foamboard pieces are holding the piece flat, you can lay on a table and put some books evenly around, and this should help press the poster flat to retain a flatter shape.





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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,434
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  • ElzarElzar Posts: 966
    the reason the curl is so hard to get out is because the paper fibers stretch and break over time (even in layers in the middle of the paper sheet where you cannot see), after many many years the paper will get brittle, some paint/ink may get damaged - but the structural damage to the sheet of paper will be pretty dramatic, some of those curls may never come out.

    Also - the importance of the "acid-free" storage as Hoff explained - those brown tubes are some of the worst storage devices you can use - almost instantly, those acid "bugs" will be crawling all over waiting to eat up the print.

    if portfolio and pages are too expensive, try using giant poly bags and acid-free backing board - cost is about $3 per storage page for bag and board at most places - art stores, packaging/shipping suppliers etc
  • thanks for all your storage tips guys...really helpful for someone whose about to geta shitload of posters at once and prob wont be able to afford framing them all at the same time.

    and, fyi...i just got my second email shipping confirmation....
    :D
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    thanks for all your storage tips guys...really helpful for someone whose about to geta shitload of posters at once and prob wont be able to afford framing them all at the same time.

    and, fyi...i just got my second email shipping confirmation....
    :D
    ;)
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  • Mikee JMikee J Posts: 1,323
    Excellent thread.. very helpful... you lot rule. :D
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  • topaztopaz Posts: 301
    CJMST3K wrote:

    -Open edition prints - most artists in the fine-art world will not offer open-edition prints (unsigned, unnumbered) if they are offering limited editions. But for these concert posters, to my knowledge, are only available as either Open editions or AP's.

    ...since AP's are inherently more limited than the other two categories, they are typically more valuable.

    Thanks so much for all handy information! So A/P stands for artists proof I get it now. I can't wait to get mine framed! Hoff I'd be looking in your direction if I didn't live on the bottom of the earth.... :)

    So, my poster is signed and numbered out of 205, but it's not a "proof" because it's out of 205! If I had have ordered it through 10c or bought at the concert, it would have been an "open edition" right? I think I get it!

    Thanks heaps for taking the time to look after poster geek girl everyone
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    topaz wrote:
    Dear kind PJ poster coolios,

    I was just wondering how the PJ posters work, what is A/P? Artist's Print? Aren't they all prints? What is the difference between a signed/numbered print and one that looks exactly the same but with no number/sig? When 10c sell posters, do they sell them S/N?

    In case it's not blindingly obvious, I am a newbie poster geek, just received my very first one in the mail today and am wondering wondering how the poster gig works. And no, I'm not trying to figure out the worth of my poster on ebay, I'm not ashamed to say that it bought a tear to my eye when I unrolled it, it's mine for as long as I am mine!! (see that what I did just there)

    It's official, my first poster: Christchurch '09. Just. Epic.

    Appreciate any answers, cheers
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  • Mikee JMikee J Posts: 1,323
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    I Use 2 sheets of cardboard, craft paper and the security and safety that is under my bed.
    I also store all of my prints in a presentation portfolio case- the best 200 + bucks i have ever spent ( besides the actual costs of my prints ;) )


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    Hey, just wondered what size this is.... and where you got it.. thanks :)
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,419
  • demetrios wrote:

    ooh..thanks for that...some good deals on there
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  • ardee84ardee84 Posts: 13
    Hey everyone,

    I know this is a stupid question but what size are most posters? Thanks a lot for your help.
  • ardee84 wrote:
    Hey everyone,

    I know this is a stupid question but what size are most posters? Thanks a lot for your help.


    Usually 18" x 24"... but every single stinking poster I own is a little bigger or a little smaller... Then there's the Berlin 2010's and SanFransisco 2009's which are their own odd sizes.
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  • ardee84 wrote:
    Hey everyone,

    I know this is a stupid question but what size are most posters? Thanks a lot for your help.


    Usually 18" x 24"... but every single stinking poster I own is a little bigger or a little smaller... Then there's the Berlin 2010's and SanFransisco 2009's which are their own odd sizes.


    …So I guess I should say 'approximately' 18" x 24"…
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  • ardee84ardee84 Posts: 13
    Same with me,! That's why I was asking. I thought it was odd how some of mine were measuring up. Thanks a lot for the reply.
  • ardee84 wrote:
    Same with me,! That's why I was asking. I thought it was odd how some of mine were measuring up. Thanks a lot for the reply.

    go check on expresso beans
    they have dimensions for most of them
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  • demetrios wrote:
    This is what I got. Works like a charm. Hey d, what are your thoughts on putting 2 posters in one sleeve? I just realized I need to order more sleeves, but in the meantime I need to store two posters in some of my sleeves. Think that's cool for storage? I made sure nothing got damaged while putting them both in?
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