Left-leaning media?

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edited August 2010 in A Moving Train
Okay, I'm confused about something and hopefully y'all can help me figure it out. I read/hear a lot about how the mainstream media leans to the left. (I especially read this on here and just read it again.) Can someone please explain to me exactly which media outlets are left-leaning and demonstrate how this is the case and how they represent the mainstream media as a whole?

I spent a good amount of time in airports recently, where CNN was on everywhere I went, and everything I saw indicated to me that they were not at all left-leaning. I've heard people say that Huffington Post is left-leaning, and I could buy that, but I don't really consider them to be the mainstream media. I certainly don't see any indication that the media as a whole leans to the left.

Also, while we're on the topic of the mainstream media.... MSM means Men who have Sex with Men. Just wanted to clear that up. ;)
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    I remember how many of us wer so pissed at NBC, CBS and ABC, etc. for not calling out or investigating the Bush admin and delving deeper into their exploits. Now it seems a lot of people claim these same outlets are in love with the new guys and are not critical enough of their shenanigans. The "mainstream media" sucks both ways and has become almost irrelevant. They just try not to step on their sponsor's or parent company's toes, pretty much. Also, for some reason, I think there is a misconception in the zeitgeist than links critical thinking and studies to the left. The same misconceptions that consider "following your gut" and "common sense" to be on the right. So, the media gets lumped into the "left leaning" column as they are supposed to be examining things critically.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    depends on standards set for defining left/right ... only in the US would the democrats be considered left-leaning ...

    the mainstream media is not left-leaning by any stretch based on anything i would consider left but this is a country where many still call Obama a socialist so ... I guess it's all relative ...

    the media much like gov't itself is a corporatized version of what it should be ...
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    That always cracks me up. The media doesn't lean. It bows.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,369
    scb wrote:
    Also, while we're on the topic of the mainstream media.... MSM means Men who have Sex with Men. Just wanted to clear that up. ;)
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    This is a fallacy begrudged by many on the right in order to skew public opinion. The mainstream media only leans one way, towards money.
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    The main point is that the media (as a whole) veers in both directions.. just as you or others hate CNN or MSN, the other side hate FOX and similar. As a whole, the media doesn't lean left, in fact, our entire media as a whole is privately run and managed by corporations which act in their own interest - which basically amounts to keep everyone on the snooze button.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    the primary proof the media does not lean left is the war in Iraq ... where was the media to ask the tough questions and to dig up the truth which would have spared so many innocent lives? ... they gave Bush a free pass and look at the result ...
  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/


    This site may have some valid points, but I scrolled down just a few entries and found two posts with the word "Obamacare" in the title. This only proves to me that this site is biased as well.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    polaris_x wrote:
    the primary proof the media does not lean left is the war in Iraq ... where was the media to ask the tough questions and to dig up the truth which would have spared so many innocent lives? ... they gave Bush a free pass and look at the result ...
    ...
    That was because of... MONEY.
    Remember the Persian Gulf War of 1991? It pretty much created Cable News. CNN Reoprters were the only ones reporting out of Baghdad. The war was depicted (in a slanted view) as a video game.
    In 2003, media outlets... especially television media... were drooling at the mouth to get another shot at another war. They were being told that their reporters would be embedded with frontline troops to report war in realtime. Newsroom editors were creaming their pants just thinking about the possible ratings.
    They passed on all information being fed by the Bush Administration because they knew it would be a 24 hour spectacle. Remember all of the red, white and blue graphic and wartime music that lead their new programs? And title graphics such as 'Showdow In The Sand' or 'Target: Saddam' that were more like Jean Calude Van Damme movie posters than newscasts. It was all advertisement for the upcoming war. The media wanted the war because they wanted to be next CNN.
    The mass media FAILED America. They are supposed to be our watchdog and alert us when our government fails us.
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    scb wrote:
    Okay, I'm confused about something and hopefully y'all can help me figure it out. I read/hear a lot about how the mainstream media leans to the left. (I especially read this on here and just read it again.) Can someone please explain to me exactly which media outlets are left-leaning and demonstrate how this is the case and how they represent the mainstream media as a whole?

    I spent a good amount of time in airports recently, where CNN was on everywhere I went, and everything I saw indicated to me that they were not at all left-leaning. I've heard people say that Huffington Post is left-leaning, and I could buy that, but I don't really consider them to be the mainstream media. I certainly don't see any indication that the media as a whole leans to the left.

    Also, while we're on the topic of the mainstream media.... MSM means Men who have Sex with Men. Just wanted to clear that up. ;)
    It doesn't lean left. Personally, I think that blaming the "left-leaning media" is easier for Republicans to do, than defending what's being reported on FOX News.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanwah wrote:
    scb wrote:
    Okay, I'm confused about something and hopefully y'all can help me figure it out. I read/hear a lot about how the mainstream media leans to the left. (I especially read this on here and just read it again.) Can someone please explain to me exactly which media outlets are left-leaning and demonstrate how this is the case and how they represent the mainstream media as a whole?

    I spent a good amount of time in airports recently, where CNN was on everywhere I went, and everything I saw indicated to me that they were not at all left-leaning. I've heard people say that Huffington Post is left-leaning, and I could buy that, but I don't really consider them to be the mainstream media. I certainly don't see any indication that the media as a whole leans to the left.

    Also, while we're on the topic of the mainstream media.... MSM means Men who have Sex with Men. Just wanted to clear that up. ;)
    It doesn't lean left. Personally, I think that blaming the "left-leaning media" is easier for Republicans to do, than defending what's being reported on FOX News.

    of course cause everyone knows the next step is communism and the downfall of our society. ;) :roll:
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  • Commy
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    FiveB247x wrote:
    This is a fallacy begrudged by many on the right in order to skew public opinion. The mainstream media only leans one way, towards money.
    indirectly sure, directly media serves the state. even anti-obama Fox supports the wars.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    But we only average a war everything 10-12 yrs.... so what does that mean for the rest of the time? The reality is something people don't care to acknowledge - that tv only exists for the commercials and bs inbetween shows, not information or (snooze)/s(news) reports.
    Commy wrote:
    indirectly sure, directly media serves the state. even anti-obama Fox supports the wars.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/

    I'm sorry, but I still don't get it. The "About" section of this website says it is "the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias," and then its first example is to "expose" a joke that Jay Leno told about Obama's age being higher than his approval rating. How is this left-leaning and how does it represent the mainstream media as a whole? I think I need you (or someone) to be more explicit, please.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/
    there is hardly anything that proves that the media leans left, their may be left leaning points or articles but what about all the other storys that are neutral or lean right, nothing said about that, if this site was a balanced and went after both sides of the media then fairenough, but it doesn't
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    FiveB247x wrote:
    But we only average a war everything 10-12 yrs.... so what does that mean for the rest of the time? The reality is something people don't care to acknowledge - that tv only exists for the commercials and bs inbetween shows, not information or (snooze)/s(news) reports.

    yep. theres a reason soap operas are called soap operas.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cosmo wrote:
    That was because of... MONEY.
    Remember the Persian Gulf War of 1991? It pretty much created Cable News. CNN Reoprters were the only ones reporting out of Baghdad. The war was depicted (in a slanted view) as a video game.
    In 2003, media outlets... especially television media... were drooling at the mouth to get another shot at another war. They were being told that their reporters would be embedded with frontline troops to report war in realtime. Newsroom editors were creaming their pants just thinking about the possible ratings.
    They passed on all information being fed by the Bush Administration because they knew it would be a 24 hour spectacle. Remember all of the red, white and blue graphic and wartime music that lead their new programs? And title graphics such as 'Showdow In The Sand' or 'Target: Saddam' that were more like Jean Calude Van Damme movie posters than newscasts. It was all advertisement for the upcoming war. The media wanted the war because they wanted to be next CNN.
    The mass media FAILED America. They are supposed to be our watchdog and alert us when our government fails us.

    yup ... either way - the mainstream media definitely does not lean left ...
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited August 2010
    Please man.. I hear democrats refer to Hillary Clinton's healtcare as Hillarycare all the time. You shouldn't let petty semantics cloud your brain. The facts are every single news entity except fox leans left and you have MSNBC that is way left and out right nasty somtimes.

    edit for spelling: :oops:


    markin ba卜 ll wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Here's your proof...
    http://newsbusters.org/


    This site may have some valid points, but I scrolled down just a few entries and found two posts with the word "Obamacare" in the title. This only proves to me that this site is biased as well.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    You're missing the point. Yes, there are some media that veers to the left and some to the right in their biases, but as a whole, the whole media for our nation is not skewed to the left, it's actual far from it.. it's big business interests and nothing more. Solely because MSNBC or CNN veers left does not mean the whole media is skewed that ways just as FOX's right does not represent the whole media. Those are singular examples of specific stations. If you want to read some good books about media and ownership in our nation and how it is skewed, read this Media Monopoly by Ben Bagdikian: http://benbagdikian.net/
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Please man.. I hear democrates refer to Hillary Clinton's healtcare as Hillarycare all the time. You shouldn't let petty scamantics cloud your brain. The facts are every single news entity except fox leans left and you have MSNBC that is way left and out right nasty somtimes.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis

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