Will Obama apologize

WaveCameCrashin · July 2010

This lawsiut is a absurd. It makes no mention of anyones civil rights being violated,and what was Obama saying the whole time ? That Families were going to be stopped for the color of their skin while they were going out for ice cream. :roll:

Supremacy- No one is disputing that the feds broadly get to set immigration policy. Arizona is not setting immigration policy and It does not conflict with U.S. law. So the supremacy issue really is not an issue at all.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch ... n-law.html

Justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"
July 06, 2010 3:47 PM

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As widely anticipated, Attorney General Eric Holder today filed a lawsuit against Arizona and Gov. Jan Brewer over the state’s immigration law. The suit seeks a preliminary injunction to stop the law from being implemented.

The court filing states that Arizona law is pre-empted by federal law and therefore violates the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The filing makes no assertion that the law is discriminatory or risks being applied in a discriminatory fashion, as the president and other officials said they feared would be the case. Interestingly, this suit makes no civil rights charges against the Arizona law.

You can read the complaint HERE and the preliminary injunction brief HERE.

“The State of Arizona has crossed this constitutional line,” write Assistant Attorney General Tony West, United States Attorney Dennis K. Burke and others. “In acknowledged disagreement with the manner in which the federal government has regulated immigration and in contravention of these constitutional principles…The states are not permitted to set their own independent immigration policies, with varying and potentially conflicting enforcement systems and priorities. Were a number of states to act as Arizona has and strike out on their own, federal immigration policy and enforcement efforts would be crippled.”

The suit states that the Arizona law pursues only the goal of “attrition” while ignoring other objectives Congress has established for the federal immigration system.

You can read more about the lawsuit in THIS PIECE by Senior Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas.

-Jake Tapper

UPDATE: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, released a statement saying: “Suing the people of Arizona for attempting to do a job the federal government has utterly failed to execute will not help secure our borders. If the President wants to make real progress on this issue, he can do so by taking amnesty off the table and focus his efforts on border and interior security. It is long past time for this administration to prioritize solving a crisis over imposing an agenda and the first step is to recognize that attorneys and amnesty are not acceptable alternatives to border security and job creation.”

Gov. Brewer, meanwhile, is soliciting donations to help defend the state from the Justice Department lawsuit, tweeting: "We will be very aggressive in defending our law. Donate to help keep AZ safe.”

EvoLukin · July 2010

SolarWorld · July 2010

The federal government doesnt want states to make up their own immigration laws so we end up with a mishmash of laws regarding entry in the country. It makes sense if you think about it for two seconds from a non partisan view. But whatever, what did these idiot law makers think was going to happen passing this racist ass law? Bunch of idiots.

BTW where was Mitchy boy at when Bush was trying to get immigration reform done? Amnesty was Bushes idea. Mitch is a bought and paid for senate whore, like most of them, and clearly is just trying to score cheap political points by blaming Obama. Like there aren't enough fucking fires to deal with right now, now the fact there are a bunch of racists ass law makers in power, it's Obamas fault. Pathetic.... The Empire is falling, can't wait until it all comes crashing down.

_ · July 2010

Apologize for what?? :?

Smellyman · July 2010

bizzare thread.....

WaveCameCrashin · July 2010

No one is arguing that the federal gov and congress gets to set immigration policy. Arizona is simply enforcing it. If it's such a racist bill then why doesn't the brief make any such argument? Also federal law says that they the Feds don't even have to have a reason to ask someone if they are here legally or not. So I guess the federal law must be racist to then huh?
As far as M.Mconell goes I don't know what his stance was then. This lawsuit is a waste of time. Obama should be focused on creating jobs not suing the state of Arizona. Besides I thought he said he and his administration weren't going to rest until Americans were working again,then again he says that everytime he speaks.

SolarWorld wrote:

The federal government doesnt want states to make up their own immigration laws so we end up with a mishmash of laws regarding entry in the country. It makes sense if you think about it for two seconds from a non partisan view. But whatever, what did these idiot law makers think was going to happen passing this racist ass law? Bunch of idiots.

BTW where was Mitchy boy at when Bush was trying to get immigration reform done? Amnesty was Bushes idea. Mitch is a bought and paid for senate whore, like most of them, and clearly is just trying to score cheap political points by blaming Obama. Like there aren't enough fucking fires to deal with right now, now the fact there are a bunch of racists ass law makers in power, it's Obamas fault. Pathetic.... The Empire is falling, can't wait until it all comes crashing down.

WaveCameCrashin · July 2010

Uh maybe for all of the rable rousing he.
and his administration is guilty of.

scb wrote:

Apologize for what?? :?

blackredyellow · July 2010

prfctlefts wrote:

Uh maybe for all of the rable rousing he.
and his administration is guilty of.

scb wrote:

Apologize for what?? :?

Any administration (or any politician for that matter) apologizing for rabble rousing? good one...

WaveCameCrashin · July 2010

What would you call it then? Uniting Americans?

blackredyellow · July 2010

prfctlefts wrote:

What would you call it then? Uniting Americans?

Who's changing the subject? the subject is "will obama apologize", I'm trying to figure out for what (or to whom) he should be apologizing.

Godfather. · July 2010

EvoLukin wrote:

HA HA another president and more lies....who's next ? and I have never heard one say "I'm sorry" for not doing my job as I should or said I would.

imagine this, a candidate steps up the podium and says "I'm going to raise tax's spend more money then we have or you the American people thought possible,I might get a little tail in the oval office from a hot young intern then I'm going to go on T.V and try and make you feel as good as possible about the screwing I'm giving you the American people and a lot of you will fall for my bullshit and the rest will be written off as trouble makers and even if I am not reelected for a second term...who cares cause the checks and protection I get after my term in office will be more then enough to take care of my family and I, I might be crooked but at leased I'm honest....kinda.

Godfather.

unsung · July 2010

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

Pepe Silvia · July 2010

unsung wrote:

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

and we still have the patriot act and warantless wiretapping and there's still meetings over energy policy and regulations with the affected industries which are closed and secret because of.....national security. because we all know america would collapse if al qaeda or iran knew what they talked about over coal regulations.... :roll:

OnTheEdge · July 2010

Apologize? He's probably going to team up with the Mexican Drug Cartel.

_ · July 2010

prfctlefts wrote:

No one is arguing that the federal gov and congress gets to set immigration policy. Arizona is simply enforcing it.

If they were simply enforcing an existing law then they wouldn't have had to make their own law, would they?

prfctlefts wrote:

If it's such a racist bill then why doesn't the brief make any such argument?

Because it's not necessary to make that argument. You don't argue (and shouldn't waste your time arguing) the merits of a law that shouldn't have been made to begin with. Once it's established that they had no right to make any law, the content of the law is irrelevant. The question of whether or not Arizona is allowed to make immigration law trumps the question of whether or not the law is racist.

Godfather. · July 2010

maybe he should....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... uit-toxic/

Godfather.

inmytree · July 2010

unsung wrote:

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

unsung · July 2010

Pepe Silvia wrote:

unsung wrote:

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

and we still have the patriot act and warantless wiretapping and there's still meetings over energy policy and regulations with the affected industries which are closed and secret because of.....national security. because we all know america would collapse if al qaeda or iran knew what they talked about over coal regulations.... :roll:

Oh yeah the PATRIOT Act how could I have forgotten that? Didn't Bush get a standing ovation from the Democrats during one SOTU speech when he mentioned that parts of the PATRIOT Act were about to expire?

unsung · July 2010

inmytree wrote:

unsung wrote:

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

I'm glad you also find humor in this Obama administration, I too think it is a joke.

BinauralJam · July 2010

unsung wrote:

inmytree wrote:

unsung wrote:

Are we still in Iraq?

Is Gitmo still open?

Is oil still leaking?

I'm glad you also find humor in this Obama administration, I too think it is a joke.

I had such Hopes!!!, i feel so used. first time i ever voted in my life, what a fuckin waste of my time.

he also sent 30,000 more troops to afganistan, over 100 American's died last month, i think i read were up to 70 so far month.

MotoDC · July 2010

Doesn't AZ already have a couple state laws related to immigration? And weren't they unsuccessfully challenged as unconstitutional when they were first enacted? I would be really suprised if this case had any legs.

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