Will Obama apologize
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This lawsiut is a absurd. It makes no mention of anyones civil rights being violated,and what was Obama saying the whole time ? That Families were going to be stopped for the color of their skin while they were going out for ice cream. :roll:
Supremacy- No one is disputing that the feds broadly get to set immigration policy. Arizona is not setting immigration policy and It does not conflict with U.S. law. So the supremacy issue really is not an issue at all.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch ... n-law.html
Justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"
July 06, 2010 3:47 PM
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As widely anticipated, Attorney General Eric Holder today filed a lawsuit against Arizona and Gov. Jan Brewer over the state’s immigration law. The suit seeks a preliminary injunction to stop the law from being implemented.
The court filing states that Arizona law is pre-empted by federal law and therefore violates the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution.
The filing makes no assertion that the law is discriminatory or risks being applied in a discriminatory fashion, as the president and other officials said they feared would be the case. Interestingly, this suit makes no civil rights charges against the Arizona law.
You can read the complaint HERE and the preliminary injunction brief HERE.
“The State of Arizona has crossed this constitutional line,” write Assistant Attorney General Tony West, United States Attorney Dennis K. Burke and others. “In acknowledged disagreement with the manner in which the federal government has regulated immigration and in contravention of these constitutional principles…The states are not permitted to set their own independent immigration policies, with varying and potentially conflicting enforcement systems and priorities. Were a number of states to act as Arizona has and strike out on their own, federal immigration policy and enforcement efforts would be crippled.”
The suit states that the Arizona law pursues only the goal of “attrition” while ignoring other objectives Congress has established for the federal immigration system.
You can read more about the lawsuit in THIS PIECE by Senior Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas.
-Jake Tapper
UPDATE: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, released a statement saying: “Suing the people of Arizona for attempting to do a job the federal government has utterly failed to execute will not help secure our borders. If the President wants to make real progress on this issue, he can do so by taking amnesty off the table and focus his efforts on border and interior security. It is long past time for this administration to prioritize solving a crisis over imposing an agenda and the first step is to recognize that attorneys and amnesty are not acceptable alternatives to border security and job creation.”
Gov. Brewer, meanwhile, is soliciting donations to help defend the state from the Justice Department lawsuit, tweeting: "We will be very aggressive in defending our law. Donate to help keep AZ safe.”
Supremacy- No one is disputing that the feds broadly get to set immigration policy. Arizona is not setting immigration policy and It does not conflict with U.S. law. So the supremacy issue really is not an issue at all.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch ... n-law.html
Justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"justice Department Sues Arizona for Immigration Law -- But Does Not Make Charges of "Discrimination"
July 06, 2010 3:47 PM
PrintRSSSHARE:EmailMore
As widely anticipated, Attorney General Eric Holder today filed a lawsuit against Arizona and Gov. Jan Brewer over the state’s immigration law. The suit seeks a preliminary injunction to stop the law from being implemented.
The court filing states that Arizona law is pre-empted by federal law and therefore violates the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution.
The filing makes no assertion that the law is discriminatory or risks being applied in a discriminatory fashion, as the president and other officials said they feared would be the case. Interestingly, this suit makes no civil rights charges against the Arizona law.
You can read the complaint HERE and the preliminary injunction brief HERE.
“The State of Arizona has crossed this constitutional line,” write Assistant Attorney General Tony West, United States Attorney Dennis K. Burke and others. “In acknowledged disagreement with the manner in which the federal government has regulated immigration and in contravention of these constitutional principles…The states are not permitted to set their own independent immigration policies, with varying and potentially conflicting enforcement systems and priorities. Were a number of states to act as Arizona has and strike out on their own, federal immigration policy and enforcement efforts would be crippled.”
The suit states that the Arizona law pursues only the goal of “attrition” while ignoring other objectives Congress has established for the federal immigration system.
You can read more about the lawsuit in THIS PIECE by Senior Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas.
-Jake Tapper
UPDATE: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, released a statement saying: “Suing the people of Arizona for attempting to do a job the federal government has utterly failed to execute will not help secure our borders. If the President wants to make real progress on this issue, he can do so by taking amnesty off the table and focus his efforts on border and interior security. It is long past time for this administration to prioritize solving a crisis over imposing an agenda and the first step is to recognize that attorneys and amnesty are not acceptable alternatives to border security and job creation.”
Gov. Brewer, meanwhile, is soliciting donations to help defend the state from the Justice Department lawsuit, tweeting: "We will be very aggressive in defending our law. Donate to help keep AZ safe.”
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BTW where was Mitchy boy at when Bush was trying to get immigration reform done? Amnesty was Bushes idea. Mitch is a bought and paid for senate whore, like most of them, and clearly is just trying to score cheap political points by blaming Obama. Like there aren't enough fucking fires to deal with right now, now the fact there are a bunch of racists ass law makers in power, it's Obamas fault. Pathetic.... The Empire is falling, can't wait until it all comes crashing down.
As far as M.Mconell goes I don't know what his stance was then. This lawsuit is a waste of time. Obama should be focused on creating jobs not suing the state of Arizona. Besides I thought he said he and his administration weren't going to rest until Americans were working again,then again he says that everytime he speaks.
and his administration is guilty of.
Any administration (or any politician for that matter) apologizing for rabble rousing? good one...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Who's changing the subject? the subject is "will obama apologize", I'm trying to figure out for what (or to whom) he should be apologizing.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
HA HA another president and more lies....who's next ? and I have never heard one say "I'm sorry" for not doing my job as I should or said I would.
imagine this, a candidate steps up the podium and says "I'm going to raise tax's spend more money then we have or you the American people thought possible,I might get a little tail in the oval office from a hot young intern then I'm going to go on T.V and try and make you feel as good as possible about the screwing I'm giving you the American people and a lot of you will fall for my bullshit and the rest will be written off as trouble makers and even if I am not reelected for a second term...who cares cause the checks and protection I get after my term in office will be more then enough to take care of my family and I, I might be crooked but at leased I'm honest....kinda.
Godfather.
Is Gitmo still open?
Is oil still leaking?
and we still have the patriot act and warantless wiretapping and there's still meetings over energy policy and regulations with the affected industries which are closed and secret because of.....national security. because we all know america would collapse if al qaeda or iran knew what they talked about over coal regulations.... :roll:
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
If they were simply enforcing an existing law then they wouldn't have had to make their own law, would they?
Because it's not necessary to make that argument. You don't argue (and shouldn't waste your time arguing) the merits of a law that shouldn't have been made to begin with. Once it's established that they had no right to make any law, the content of the law is irrelevant. The question of whether or not Arizona is allowed to make immigration law trumps the question of whether or not the law is racist.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... uit-toxic/
Godfather.
Oh yeah the PATRIOT Act how could I have forgotten that? Didn't Bush get a standing ovation from the Democrats during one SOTU speech when he mentioned that parts of the PATRIOT Act were about to expire?
I'm glad you also find humor in this Obama administration, I too think it is a joke.
I had such Hopes!!!, i feel so used. first time i ever voted in my life, what a fuckin waste of my time.
he also sent 30,000 more troops to afganistan, over 100 American's died last month, i think i read were up to 70 so far month.
I don't know. Can you point us in the right direction for info on that?
Bah, internet research. I hates it. I think I heard it on NPR, but lemme poke around and get back to you.
This is as close as I can get for the time being. I don't know anything about the source, azcentral.com, but the article seems relatively balanced. Here's the link: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/23/20100423arizona-immigration-law-history-background.html
And here's the excerpt:
The law is the latest in a string of legislation intended to drive illegal immigrants out of Arizona by making life tougher for them through a policy known as enforcement through attrition...
Those measures include a requirement that public-service workers report illegal immigrants to federal authorities; the 2008 employer-sanctions law; and requirements that voters must show proof of citizenship at the polls. Several of those came about with the help of Brewer.
Brewer spokesman Paul Senseman said that when Brewer was Arizona's secretary of state, she advocated for Proposition 200, the provision that requires proof of identification to vote and proof of citizenship to register to vote. Brewer pushed for the measure in 2004 and then "vigorously fought legal battles to successfully defend its provisions," he said.
The lawsuits were resolved in favor of her position in 2008.
yeah, that fucker started two wars and personally blew up the well...damn, him...damn him to hell...
It's 'cause he hates white people.
well damn... the last guy hated black people... can't we elect a guy who likes all people?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Nope. The next president will be a woman that hates men. I know that narrows it down a ton.
Godfather.
you rock, as always...