The ideal diet

matabele
matabele Posts: 277
edited July 2010 in A Moving Train
Any ideas people, and keep enjoyment in mind.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    1. Chicken or some kind of meat
    2. Nuts or (fish oil, olive oil) - a good fat.
    3. Veggies
    4. Some type of carb, usually pasta
    5. exercise/weight lifting
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    just to get started;cut your food intake in half and don't eat after 6pm then take a walk around the block every day.....stay away from junk food places like burger king mc Donald's etc....and no alcohol. then follow what your body is telling you.
    it's not as painful as it sounds.

    Godfather.
  • matabele
    matabele Posts: 277
    Great replies, thanks, bit worried about the 6pm cut off point, I'd probably end up emptying the fridge sleep eating.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    I did the P90X workout program last year and they actually provided a very nice guideline for eating, as well as some very tasty recipes that would fit the program. It's not really a diet but instead it is a guideline that if followed will let you lose weight naturally and get to an ideal weight that you can maintain. Most diets offer great results quickly, but I bet 95% of people on diets fall into their old habits quickly and gain it back within a year.

    A great thing about the P90X program is that it requires you to eat more often. That way you stay full and avoid binging on a large calorie filled meal. I created an excel spreadsheet that let me easily track my intake. My plan was based on 2,500 calories a day, and to be honest I had trouble eating enough each day to hit that mark . . . except when my friends would bring a 12-pack over to tempt me :evil: .

    The only problem is that beer is apparently not good for you in excess :cry: . My spreadsheet would look great until the weekend hit.

    So my advice is to avoid any plan that advertises itself as a "Diet" and make a lifestyle change that avoids the processed foods and fast-food joints and focuses on eating healthy and natural food. Once you are on a program like that for several weeks, stuff from McDonalds looks revolting . . . except for their crispy chicken nuggets ;) .
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    According to WebMD, these are the top ten “Super Foods”

    Low fat yogurt
    Eggs
    Nuts
    Kiwis
    Quinoa (I have no idea what the hell this stuff is. Perhaps bat droppings?)
    Beans
    Salmon
    Broccoli
    Sweet Potatoes
    Berries
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    a few pointers...

    1. drink a LOT of water. water will make you feel full so you are not as hungry after your last meal of the day.
    2. eat about 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. do not let your body get into starvation mode because when you do finally eat your body will store those calories as fat instead of burn them. by small meals i mean a handfull of trailmix or mixed nuts, high in protein and good fat. nuts will give you energy throughout the whole day and you will not feel as hungry. do not forget your veggies, raw broccoli is great.
    3. eat on a schedule at fixed times throughout the day. this will let your body know it can burn all the calories from your last meal and your body will know when to expect more fuel.
    4. supplement with protein shakes. protein helps preserve muscle and feed the muscles. the more muscle you have the higher your metabolism so you burn fat easier. if you lift weights, protein shakes are essential.

    i can add more later if you like, but these are the big ones.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    i just wanted to add, proper diet depends on your goals, weight loss, weight gain, etc...if you want to lose weight, you MUST include an exercise program and burn more calories than you take in.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    2. eat about 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. do not let your body get into starvation mode because when you do finally eat your body will store those calories as fat instead of burn them. by small meals i mean a handfull of trailmix or mixed nuts, high in protein and good fat. nuts will give you energy throughout the whole day and you will not feel as hungry. do not forget your veggies, raw broccoli is great.
    quote]
    This isn't entirely true. This is something that was perpetuated by the supplement companies so you would buy their protein supplements as meal replacements throughout the day. Although protein shakes are great for you and they are a part of my diet, the whole 7 meals a day thing was mainly made up so they could sell their products. You need to find out how many calories you need to intake a day, and split that up however you like, if you need 5-6 meals because you are starving throughout the day then do 5-6 meals. If you can go 3 meals a day, do 3 meals.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Jason P wrote:
    Quinoa (I have no idea what the hell this stuff is. Perhaps bat droppings?)

    It's a small, roundish seed. You can use it instead of couscous or rice.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    matabele wrote:
    Any ideas people, and keep enjoyment in mind.

    The above advice is okay... mostly true... but my first question would be: what are your goals? Are you trying to lose weight, or are you just wanting to start a healthy lifestyle?
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Another great idea is to get a pedometer. Omron offers two great models for around $30 that let you keep the pedometer in your pocket instead of a clip on your belt. If you walk 10,000 steps each day, you will see a dramatic change over several months. And 10,000 is not nearly as hard as it seems. A lazy person will average about 3,000 steps a day.

    Soon, you will find yourself parking in the furthest spot away so you can get some extra steps. You can add a 10 minute walk during lunch. Just little things. You can't get better unless you keep score.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    HeidiJam wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    2. eat about 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. do not let your body get into starvation mode because when you do finally eat your body will store those calories as fat instead of burn them. by small meals i mean a handfull of trailmix or mixed nuts, high in protein and good fat. nuts will give you energy throughout the whole day and you will not feel as hungry. do not forget your veggies, raw broccoli is great.
    quote]
    This isn't entirely true. This is something that was perpetuated by the supplement companies so you would buy their protein supplements as meal replacements throughout the day. Although protein shakes are great for you and they are a part of my diet, the whole 7 meals a day thing was mainly made up so they could sell their products. You need to find out how many calories you need to intake a day, and split that up however you like, if you need 5-6 meals because you are starving throughout the day then do 5-6 meals. If you can go 3 meals a day, do 3 meals.
    if that was made up by supplement companies why do so many elite athletes and body builders and LEAN healthy people subscribe to this diet then? it works for me so i can say with utmost confidence that i am speaking truth in my situation. my shakes are mainly for recovery after a workout, and it is very difficult to get the proper amount of protein by eating chicken and steak all day every day. the shakes are good because they are low calorie, fast, easy, and they tide you over for a few hours between your main meals.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    2. eat about 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. do not let your body get into starvation mode because when you do finally eat your body will store those calories as fat instead of burn them. by small meals i mean a handfull of trailmix or mixed nuts, high in protein and good fat. nuts will give you energy throughout the whole day and you will not feel as hungry. do not forget your veggies, raw broccoli is great.
    quote]
    This isn't entirely true. This is something that was perpetuated by the supplement companies so you would buy their protein supplements as meal replacements throughout the day. Although protein shakes are great for you and they are a part of my diet, the whole 7 meals a day thing was mainly made up so they could sell their products. You need to find out how many calories you need to intake a day, and split that up however you like, if you need 5-6 meals because you are starving throughout the day then do 5-6 meals. If you can go 3 meals a day, do 3 meals.
    if that was made up by supplement companies why do so many elite athletes and body builders and LEAN healthy people subscribe to this diet then? it works for me so i can say with utmost confidence that i am speaking truth in my situation. my shakes are mainly for recovery after a workout, and it is very difficult to get the proper amount of protein by eating chicken and steak all day every day. the shakes are good because they are low calorie, fast, easy, and they tide you over for a few hours between your main meals.
    I agree. They are excellent after a hard workout.

    In regards to eating plans, to each their own. I try to follow the 3 meal plan with 2-3 healthy snacks during the day so that I'm not starving at each meal.
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    matabele wrote:
    Any ideas people, and keep enjoyment in mind.
    take me down, to sushi town.

    yum.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    if that was made up by supplement companies why do so many elite athletes and body builders and LEAN healthy people subscribe to this diet then? it works for me so i can say with utmost confidence that i am speaking truth in my situation. my shakes are mainly for recovery after a workout, and it is very difficult to get the proper amount of protein by eating chicken and steak all day every day. the shakes are good because they are low calorie, fast, easy, and they tide you over for a few hours between your main meals.
    Because those Athletes and Bodybuilders that say that are paid by the supplement companies.I played for Major D1 school (football) and we had fridges of free protein (whey) but we never had these absurd diet plans. That said I do use shakes in my diet daily. And it is very easy to get the proper ammount of protein by eating meat and nuts. Quit reading the bodybuilding mags that say you need 1.5 grams of portein per Lb.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    HeidiJam wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    if that was made up by supplement companies why do so many elite athletes and body builders and LEAN healthy people subscribe to this diet then? it works for me so i can say with utmost confidence that i am speaking truth in my situation. my shakes are mainly for recovery after a workout, and it is very difficult to get the proper amount of protein by eating chicken and steak all day every day. the shakes are good because they are low calorie, fast, easy, and they tide you over for a few hours between your main meals.
    Because those Athletes and Bodybuilders that say that are paid by the supplement companies.I played for Major D1 school (football) and we had fridges of free protein (whey) but we never had these absurd diet plans. That said I do use shakes in my diet daily. And it is very easy to get the proper ammount of protein by eating meat and nuts. Quit reading the bodybuilding mags that say you need 1.5 grams of portein per Lb.
    i don't read the bodybuilding mags. i train mma and used to fight. stop making assumptions please...i am trying to help out the OP, you are nitpicking me.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    if that was made up by supplement companies why do so many elite athletes and body builders and LEAN healthy people subscribe to this diet then? it works for me so i can say with utmost confidence that i am speaking truth in my situation. my shakes are mainly for recovery after a workout, and it is very difficult to get the proper amount of protein by eating chicken and steak all day every day. the shakes are good because they are low calorie, fast, easy, and they tide you over for a few hours between your main meals.
    Because those Athletes and Bodybuilders that say that are paid by the supplement companies.I played for Major D1 school (football) and we had fridges of free protein (whey) but we never had these absurd diet plans. That said I do use shakes in my diet daily. And it is very easy to get the proper ammount of protein by eating meat and nuts. Quit reading the bodybuilding mags that say you need 1.5 grams of portein per Lb.
    i don't read the bodybuilding mags. i train mma and used to fight. stop making assumptions please...i am trying to help out the OP, you are nitpicking me.
    Sorry, you are right, I am nitpicking you. It is solid advice, I just know that you can get great results eating 3 big meals a day as well as eating 5-7 meals a day, As long as your eating the right foods consistantly as well as training.
  • matabele
    matabele Posts: 277
    he still stands wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    Any ideas people, and keep enjoyment in mind.

    The above advice is okay... mostly true... but my first question would be: what are your goals? Are you trying to lose weight, or are you just wanting to start a healthy lifestyle?
    You people are the best, all the answers are here and I'm going to make sure I save a copy for future reference. I started the thread not because of trying to lose weight but more to do with sensible healthy eating, I know there are a lot of healthy eating tips out there but most of them are very boring, what I have picked up from this thread is the importance of healthy snacking. My diet is pretty good, I eat a lot of veg and fruit but eat at set times with nothing in between so I end up grabbing junk food when I'm on the run, now I know about the healthy snacks I will be more prepared.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    matabele wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    Any ideas people, and keep enjoyment in mind.

    The above advice is okay... mostly true... but my first question would be: what are your goals? Are you trying to lose weight, or are you just wanting to start a healthy lifestyle?
    You people are the best, all the answers are here and I'm going to make sure I save a copy for future reference. I started the thread not because of trying to lose weight but more to do with sensible healthy eating, I know there are a lot of healthy eating tips out there but most of them are very boring, what I have picked up from this thread is the importance of healthy snacking. My diet is pretty good, I eat a lot of veg and fruit but eat at set times with nothing in between so I end up grabbing junk food when I'm on the run, now I know about the healthy snacks I will be more prepared.
    i'm glad we could help out. good luck.
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  • unsung
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    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    a few pointers...

    1. drink a LOT of water. water will make you feel full so you are not as hungry after your last meal of the day.
    2. eat about 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. do not let your body get into starvation mode because when you do finally eat your body will store those calories as fat instead of burn them. by small meals i mean a handfull of trailmix or mixed nuts, high in protein and good fat. nuts will give you energy throughout the whole day and you will not feel as hungry. do not forget your veggies, raw broccoli is great.
    3. eat on a schedule at fixed times throughout the day. this will let your body know it can burn all the calories from your last meal and your body will know when to expect more fuel.
    4. supplement with protein shakes. protein helps preserve muscle and feed the muscles. the more muscle you have the higher your metabolism so you burn fat easier. if you lift weights, protein shakes are essential.

    i can add more later if you like, but these are the big ones.


    Ahem... if I may. This is 100% GOSPEL.

    I'm one of those guys that sets his alarm so that I don't go 8 hours without eating. I'll wake up say 2am and grab a handful of almonds or a bit of cottage cheese with some water. You need to get your body into a efficient mode, keeping the fuel constantly flowing it what gets that done.

    I also go every six months and have blood work done and get all of my levels checked.

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